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Sony announces new PS3 launch date

article published on 6 September, 2006

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) has announced delay for its next-generation console. The revision of PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system launch will affect the PAL territories of Europe, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Australasia. The new launch date is set for March 2007 and won't change those of Japan and North America. The revision is caused by the delay in mass ... [ read the full article ]

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9. September 2006 @ 09:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Costco will give you cash no matter how long ago you bought it?
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9. September 2006 @ 09:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
andersg most certianly , thats where i plan to buy the HD-56FN97 tv ... they give you LIFE TIME cash back return policy on EVERYTING except pc ....

dvd plalyers will x360 ps3 ds and much much more , go check out ur local one and ask about the return policy and u'll belive me , ever since i knew from that store i never bought from any other store unless costco doesnt have the item,...
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@sammorris
m$ also said that you wouldnt need the harddrive to play games and how long did that last? i think its only a matter of time before a revised 360 appears with in built hd dvd drive
sorrry if it off topic but it seems relivant
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9. September 2006 @ 11:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The PS3 is still to costly to my cheapness the 360 is worth 299 and the PS3 barely 400.
I wont be looking at a 360 since I got a Xbox,the 360 is crap if you are not online or a Fan boy,the PS3 seems to ahve more effort put into it thus its worth a bit more but theres only so muh BS I am willing to put up with.
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Well for MS to plop a HD DVD drive into the 360 1 of 3 things need to happen 1.HD DVD wins the format war,2 MS puts a ton of effort into HD DVD games 3 the Xbx2 comes out its ike a upgraded 360 with 4 cores,and full Xbx and 360 backwards compatibility.

the 360 is a mess and might not last 3 years unless MS starts dumping alot of effort into it.......
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EVERY game needs to run on EVERY Xbox360, so even if it gets used, it will never be required.



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About the costco return policy, as of now you can return pretty much anything you bought to get a refund at the full purchase price. A lot of people do this with big screen TVs so they can upgrade to the latest model without having to take a big $$$ hit.

Here is a good article that talks about about the higher prices of current and upcoming consoles:

http://www.htpcforums.com/index.php?showtopic=578
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9. September 2006 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's an incredible returns policy!
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[qutote]$499 - No bluray drive and 20GB hard drive.
$599 - Includes bluray drive and 60 GB hard drive.
aha i knew it i was right , see

oh yea the return policy is always been like that !
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9. September 2006 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Where was that posted? ALL PS3 GAMES WILL BE BLURAY DISCS, NO CONSOLES WILL BE SHIPPED WITHOUT A BLURAY DRIVE.
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9. September 2006 @ 14:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you metioned that both price versions will have blue ray , as it turns out to be only the expensive ( deluxe ) edition has blue ray

gus738: Both versions have bluray, the cheaper version has a smaller hard disk.
nptwenty: Sony are guilty of poor after-sales support, you're right, but your Blu-ray blurry talk is just complete rubbish, I have no idea what you're on about.
Thonor: I looked into a Wii, but for something that still only outputs a standard definition signal (480p, the same as an old style DVD player) it's like something from the dark ages compared to its competitors.

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The PS3 "core" has a 20GB HDD, wireless controllers, no wi-fi networking, no card reader and no HDMI.
Nowhere does that mention no Blu-ray drive. What would a PS3 be without one? A PS2 that looks cooler!
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9. September 2006 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

From wikipedia.

From Sony's official site.

I mentioned that both price versions will have Blu-ray. As it turns out both price versions will have Blu-ray.
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9. September 2006 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the 360 is a mess and a waste of silicon,the PS3 looks ok but has its own set of issues and the WII looks prefect to me.
Quality + new control scheme + Good Current Gen graphics
what more can you ask for :3

sammorris
Yup that sounds right.
He's either a noob,doesn't know or is a fanboy.
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9. September 2006 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AH you sure about the wireless controllers on the low end? I cant really find any hard info on it.
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lol ok so i got missleading information , i'm glad that the ppl that cant afford the expeive version atlest they get blue ray on the lower price version :P
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9. September 2006 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
probably all three, LOL.
I think your comment on the 360 is a bit harsh, it has some good games, is reasonably priced, has good after-sales support and was the first onto the HD scene. The previous QC issues put me off though. The Wii is a fantastic concept, but the lack of HD for me is unforgivable. The PS3 however saves me from buying a Bluray DVD player/drive (at least initially, although I rather suspect PC games will be coming on HD-DVDs rather than Blurays), has the best graphics capability (and the best suitability for my monitor too) and given it has had time to mature, by the time I buy one they should be quite reliable. The only thing stopping me is the delay and the price, but for what I see, I'm prepared to save up and wait.
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9. September 2006 @ 15:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually that was unfair, gus, but in future we would like proof of your statements, especially if they seem contradictory.
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sammorris
meh the 360s launch was a mess,half of its better games are on PC,its hardware is fcked up...its a mess dose not have enough games to make it worth 400$ + its jsut blah...if you are not a Fanboy or don't have board band its not worth it f they took the time and did BWC right you would have a automatic library f games and thus be well worth 400-500 but noooooeesss they went cheap and it shows it..


MS has 2 options to fight the PS3 long term either start putting alot of effort into it or rolling out the Xbx2 in 3 years..
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why ppl fall under the ideal that HD-DVD can provide better hd games???? BLUE RAY is bigger gb size so therefore if hd games inprove then blue ray would be it .... i mean hd dvd only stores 20 or 30 gb as where a blue ray can/ or will store 50 to 200 gb on a single disc
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gus738
its a bit more messy than that,BR might have more space but it also has the least amount of space between the data area of a disc and the outside witch can lead to data loss when scratched and such not a good thing for gaming,on the other side HD DVD has a leg up on BR when it comes to movies the codec MS made has better clarity and sharpness...its a mess and things are going to get more dirty before things get better.
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9. September 2006 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bluray discs are a similar density, there's nothing stopping dual layer HD-DVD discs coming out, but I say it's the format for PC games since it's the format Microsoft support...
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sammorris
doesn't HD DVD have 0.3-0.6 mm from the outside?
its nearly 2-3X as much as BR.

Do you know if they are going to cover the foil top with plastic? I would love to see a design better than CD/DVD ><
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9. September 2006 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I STILL STAND BY ALL MY COMMENTS.
hddvd holds 15gb per layer and because of the depth of data can only hold 2, brdvds hold 25gb per layer and theoreticly could have six. but they are having problems with reading the second layers at the min.

how long will it be before the 9gb on a dvd isnt enough space to hold all the data needed for hidef games? realy i dont know. sure it wont be long.

hddvd drive/add-on games are the only way the 360 will not be replaced by 07/08, and the main reason m$ has pushed this format is so it can easily interchange the parts and charge us more for the honuor of being ripped off. all theyd need to do is swap the diode in the drive for a nice new blue one(both hd + br have blue lasers)and a slight software change. no biggie for a company like m$
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forgot to mention memorex(yea i know) have aparently come up with a new type of coating like that on expensive watches that cant be scratched. only time will tell
 
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