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article published on 6 September, 2006
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) has announced delay for its next-generation console. The revision of PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system launch will affect the PAL territories of Europe, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Australasia. The new launch date is set for March 2007 and won't change those of Japan and North America.
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12. September 2006 @ 05:23 |
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Mmm, to be quite honest I'm assuming/expecting/believing that the initial tech problems of the 360 are sorted by now. If they're not then shame on Microsoft. Despite what sort of a company Sony is I still trust them more to make a console that's powerful and reliable. Microsoft's after-sales support for the xbox 360 is supposed to be very good (although I doubt that's the case in the UK), but I've never had to use the after-sales support for my nearly 4 year old PS2. It doesn't overheat, or chew up discs. I share your concern about the 360's price. It's a lot cheaper than the PS3 will be, but it's not cheap enough to make me want to buy it instead. When I said I was contemplating buying one, just after I sent the message my Internet service went down for 3 hours, doesn't that just give you the feeling you shouldn't buy one?
I don't claim to be supersitious or to have Extrasensory perception, but I have predicted far too many bad things to dismiss them as coincidence. Buying a 360 has bad news written all over it. Back on the real world though, there are a few games I would like to play on it, but since it isn't an HD-DVD player as of yet (and even if it was I wouldnt use that feature), it is only a games console to me, hence the price of each game includes it's share of the console's price. I can only think of maybe 4 games I'd want on a 360 as of now, which makes the average price per game somewhere around the £90 mark. No thanks. If they're on PC, I'll do that, if they're not, I'll wait.
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12. September 2006 @ 05:36 |
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sammorris
they have to a point and the new revision is to come out this year witch will nail 80% of the problems dead the 10% are commen bugs that new revisions might bring and the other 10% is my dislike of the 360 :P,altho I will not buy the launch system I wont touch it with a 10 foot poll because of all the issues they have had with it,however if I can score it under 100 I'll be happy to have to get another for 100 if it dies 0-o *L*
the 360 is like the saturn or DC or any Japanese system it has midcore support in the states but loved at home and thats the 360 it sales enough in the US to keep it going then anything it sales outside the US is extra.
games is reason number 1 why I have not bothered with a 360 since I didn't have a Xbox when it came out I could kill 2 birds with one system unfortunately MS didn't put alot of effort into the 360 it shows it and well its hurt the 360 I have stayed away from it I don't have 500$ to kill on a system that has a 30-80% random chance to fry plus since the games on it are a few select Xbx and the 360 games my exsitmate wained and wained again when half of the better 360 games are on PC in a year or 2 the 360 should become worth while as long as its worth is under 300 with HD.
MS just screwed up badly on the 360 and it will take 2 years for the to recover fro it and bring the system up to speed while they are doing it the WII will hit the ground running and so will the PS3 the more its delayed the more games will get done and not be rushed to fing death,ect,ect,ect,ect
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12. September 2006 @ 05:49 |
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That's one way of putting it! Under $100, wow. I'll get one if it dips below £100, a little less sharp a goal, but since it's double that at the moment, I may have to wait a while. The PS3 will also be double what I want to pay for it, and that's not even out for another 6 months. If it's a really good system I'l be happy to pay £250-£300 to have one, but no more than that, and ideally that should include a game as well. I wouldn't normally be fussed about HDMI (I'm not really fussed about the 60GB drive as yet either, especially if you can put your own in, ahem 250GB for £60 lol) but you never know what the future may hold, so come prepared I say. I've previously bought Playstations on the strength of the Gran Turismo series, and this one doesn't look much different. I can't wait to play that on my 24" Dell LCD.
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12. September 2006 @ 05:54 |
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sammorris
I am reasonable sometimes the PS3 is worth no more than 400 to me and thats the thing they are trying to sale for 600.
I would ave been ok with the 360s price if they did full BWC but they didn't and that drops the price dawn to 300 and even then...with the hardware woes and lack of games 200 is as much as I am willing to spend on it right now,I would take a core unit for 150 but I don't see any real price drops 2 years at least so the 360 is off my list since I just picked up a Xbx and 4 or 5 games for 100 off Ebay :3
it has house of the dead 3 and a gun wif it ^^
HAVE to get halo 2 and NGB next month :3
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12. September 2006 @ 06:17 |
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The trouble is, BluRay technology is so new, it's just too expensive to put in a reasonably priced console, and the same for the 360 and HD-DVD. When the PS2 came out, it had a DVD drive, but DVD technology wasn't new then, in fact my first PC which I got a full two years before the PS2 came out had a 6x DVD-ROM, and being a prebuilt system, I expect that there were probably 8x DVD drives by then. BluRay isn't really a proven platform anywhere yet, and I think I for one would be happy to see neither the 360 or PS3 be quite so powerful but have embraced both new media technologies to keep the cost a bit down and yet still be very attractive machines. As it is, one has it and costs too much, and one doesn't and costs a lot less, but still too much to not have it.
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12. September 2006 @ 06:23 |
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Ya the 360 was mishandled and the PS3 is just to much both are monsters but in different ways.the WII is stable and happy with itself the 360 is a recovering bulimic/drug addict model and the PS3 is a pampered sheltered rich boy.....its scary ya know, in time reality will make them better but this has/is the most fcked up systems STARTo I have seen 0-o
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12. September 2006 @ 06:27 |
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Lol yeah it's pretty dire. However, a lot of people speak favourably of the Wii, but for me, it being Standard resolution just doesn't really cut it for me. 1366x768 or 1280x720, fine. But 640x480 just ain't good enough for a product that won't be in many households until 2007. I love the concept, but not the implementation. Same goes for the other consoles I suppose!
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12. September 2006 @ 06:34 |
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sammorris
I know this sounds silly but Nintendo is known for doing more with less and there are alot of techniques that can make 640x480 look great so theres a 50/50 chances its not that add but it is a 300 once you get a game or 2 so well worth more research before purchased to me tho its well worth it if I have the money >>
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12. September 2006 @ 06:35 |
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sorry i was lead to belive that hidef vid was beyond component cables.
i was looking at a box last night that you plug hdmi into and it removes the DRM, but thats not what the box is for its called dvimagic
i still think the 360 is another dreamcast and i am glad i sold mine when peeps still wanted them. how long till xbox live 365? any1? i think xmas 08.
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12. September 2006 @ 06:42 |
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well you are half right Hidef comes in 3 forms Digital,Analog and the new DRM scheme witch will halve the quality on non digital outputs.
there is no diffrance between Digital and Analog right now,when hollywood starts its new DRM scheme MOVIES will be halved on analog devices.
Yes a device like dvimagic magic might work but you see the organization hat hands out the DRM pass codes tracks and makes invalided questionable codes so the industry will be one step behind the cheat devices as it where,sure you might get a few movies to work at full res but the next set of movies with updated code's will not work at full res.
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12. September 2006 @ 06:48 |
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What you want is some online enabled system that can change the code whenever it changes, in order to play the new stuff. I'm limited to DVI and Component with my PC monitor anyway.
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12. September 2006 @ 06:51 |
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sammorris
they sale adapters you know *rolls eyes*
*L*
now converters are more tricky I have not realy seen one that can do a conversion decently,I ahve seen the 150 ultimate convters that can do A/V,Svid,VGA,DVI back and forth.
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12. September 2006 @ 06:53 |
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I'm aware of HDMI to DVI stuff being about, but with regard to copy protection?
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12. September 2006 @ 06:58 |
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sammorris
the copy protection in this case is halving the res so you cant get high def when you copy you only get lesser res with maybe some dist oration like macro vision......
heres the thing anyone with a computer and a drive that can read it all they need is a riper that overrides its encryption thus nulling everything but the halving on analog devices and the macro vision effect on recorders if it has that..but you still can copy it..once the rippers get up to speed.
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12. September 2006 @ 07:21 |
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So, forgive me being a bit of a philistine here, what would I need to watch legitimate High-def media through the Bluray drive on a PS3, for example? In addition to that, what downloadable high definition formats are recommended, and why is my PC unable to display the H.264 codec? Is it unsupported on ATi cards?
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12. September 2006 @ 07:25 |
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sammorris
the High def cables DVI to be exact.
in 2ish years is when you might need newer cables that support the HDMI assuming you have the high end PS3 in order to jump thru the herdels hollywood has set out..in order to play newer movies in HIGH RES .
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12. September 2006 @ 07:32 |
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as far as i know a top end ps3 and a hdtv
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12. September 2006 @ 07:43 |
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12. September 2006 @ 07:43 |
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a HD TV will help LOL
doh I forgot that ><
but both PS3s can do high defs now when hollywood dose thier thing in acouple years who knows what you will need.
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12. September 2006 @ 07:47 |
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A lawyer, probably.
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12. September 2006 @ 07:58 |
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"360 Tech Problems"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
....ha!
*AHEM*
I'm sorry, did I laugh out loud? I've voiced this before, but I had the deranged 'pleasure' of working in a game store, during and the four months after the launch. Second busiest store in Southern California. Full time, manager, 40+ hours/week.
Do you know how many 360's came back to that store?
Two.
One came in on my shift. It was a mother who bought t for their kid for Christmas, she could shell out over $500 for a system with games and controllers, but she refused to connect it to the internet, and couldn't understand how other people said it was so much fun.
The other came in off my shift. A couple stoners brought faded looking console that smelled like their bongwater. They told us that it just stopped working out of nowhere. The current manager plugged it in, and the smell got stronger, much stronger. Apparently 360's have a design flaw:
BONGWATER!!!
Whatever you do people, keep the bongwater, or anything else that might be associated with the words 'bong' or 'water' away from yur 360's! M$ forgot to program anti-bongwater technology!!! Shame on them!
^^^True Story^^^
That's not to say that bad systems didn't exist. Unfortunatey for some, they were primarily on the East coast, nowehere near us. However, when all was said and done, it was found that the defect was corrected after th first shipment,and the frst shipment literally had less than a 3% defect rate. For opening day, that ain't bad. Look at DC and PS2 with their first shipments *shudders*, then tell me how much better Sony is than everybody else about hardware production.
Some games did crash on launch shipments. But the fix was not hardware or even M$ dash patching. It was the individual games that needed patching, because game companies did not test properly. And one can hardly hold that against a hardware manufacturer. I might as well sue Sony when a gameshark corrupts my saves. Really.
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12. September 2006 @ 08:02 |
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*Wishes he could edit and add to last post*
Two things:
-I do not mean to say that Sony made the DC, Sega did, the llustration shows that all manufacturers screw up. Sony, M$, you name it.
-I would like to note that while I decry the 'estimated lifetime of the ps3' I am not saying the hardware will die faster, although reading that much data consistently can, by default, offer a short lifespan for Blu-ray drives. I wonder how Sony is countering that, I'm sure they are. I will say they've been quite stupid lately; but they're definitely smart enough to have a counter measure to prevent blu-death. I just wonder what it is.
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12. September 2006 @ 08:13 |
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you can get cables with one hdmi and dvi @ the other that should work but youll need the use the optical out on ps3 for sound. or a ps2s av leads(red+white). i think. if you can get it to work without hdmi i would like to know how.
zippy, glad that made you smile it was the best i could do with nfo i was given.
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12. September 2006 @ 08:59 |
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@handsom:
I'd pay extra for the PS3 if it came with anti-bong water technology.
Also tycobb, xyqo and anubis would appreciate that too.
"The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."
-Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Home Entertainment Feb 19, 2008
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