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Sony announces new PS3 launch date
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article published on 6 September, 2006
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) has announced delay for its next-generation console. The revision of PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system launch will affect the PAL territories of Europe, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Australasia. The new launch date is set for March 2007 and won't change those of Japan and North America.
The revision is caused by the delay in mass ... [ read the full article ]
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12. September 2006 @ 09:53 |
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handsom
bah the 360 has hardware problems this is a common FACT ,since they made alot of them its reasonable that only 1 or 2 came to your store.
With that said any Hardware troubles the 360 had will be fixed in the first revision so one can only play the "360 has buggy hardware" tune for so long.
Now then dose this mean th PS3 is pefect hel no bt it dose mean the 360 had one hell of a crappy start.
editing is a lovely thing
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Suspended permanently
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12. September 2006 @ 11:46 |
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creaky got me, i'm such a tool
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12. September 2006 @ 15:21 |
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Did anyone see what happened there?
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12. September 2006 @ 15:28 |
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nope
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12. September 2006 @ 16:03 |
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the premaban?
a site spamer.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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12. September 2006 @ 16:05 |
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Oh really, fair enough. Suppose in a thread like this that's understandable. Not acceptable, but understandable.
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12. September 2006 @ 16:12 |
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was not about the thread just site link spamage and o'creaky fried im up well ^0^
spam sandwich's for all!
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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12. September 2006 @ 17:52 |
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Well when you consider literally one non-functoning unit coming to your store, and that unit clearly not being doa at time of sale (Again, all jokes aside, bongwater+game system=broken game system), out of well over 250 unts moved just to satisfy initial pre-orders, yeah. I'd agree with you, but when you compare those numbers, that's wait, less than the statistical average of 3%. Which, by precedents of recent(Last ten years or so) is a very good record, that any hardware manufacturer should be proud of. The fact that some fanboys and a couple angry consumers voicing a defect only known in a small number of units, even at launch can hardly be blamed on the manufacturer.
Again, the units that had defects were KNOWN to be completely doa. However, despite the number of places that the few victims and many anti-M$ gamers voiced the 'huge problem', it was also a known fact that the literal number of defective units was just literally just under 3%. That's not to say that those victims had to go through a whole world of fun waiting for more units to come in, but that's the case wth any console launch. In this case though, the number of victims was much smaller than before. This isn't praise for M$, this is praise for the industry, M$ isn't the only company putting more care in, it has become clear that Sony and Nintendo are being mre careful too.
As an example for Sony, take the fact that they found defective parts, and rather than 'overlooking' them, and selling those unts, they are replacing and waiting for new parts. Quality control lke that is the reason the the number of doa's on initial shipments have been much lower.
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12. September 2006 @ 18:04 |
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so why then if its so rare I know 3 friends all close 2 online and the one here has had to replace his system 3 times the others once each,and they all keep their system clean and in cool areas and such.
But then random chance mmmmm bah
I still feel that the 360 HD is buggy and that half the launch titles are buggier.
Somehow I don't see 3% being reasonable unless you have soem nice hard info to back it up ,I am more comfy with 10-30 at the least...
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13. September 2006 @ 01:09 |
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I think he must have chanced upon a good area, I've heard too many stories about it for them all to be fake.
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13. September 2006 @ 05:14 |
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i am correcting an earlier post hddvds laser aint blue
sorry i thought it was
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13. September 2006 @ 05:17 |
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13. September 2006 @ 05:34 |
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I'm not doubting that you've heard of these. What I'm saying s that for every story you've heard, there are a lot of owners that you don't know about. Yeah, we always here about the broken ones, usually from multiple sources. But how many people B*tch and moan about working equipment. Most of these people are too busy actually usng the system.
Yet another fact. In the first 24 hours of launch, roughly 60% of the systems that had been shipped were already online. Let's think about that. A lot of people don't even participate in online at all. Yet more than half of the units were being played visibly by gamers over xbox live. When more than half of the units are actually visibly online (Which is a record, btw. I'm not saying because it is M$, but because onlne gaming in general is becoming so much more popular) it becomes a lot harder to say that even a majority are broken. And, the number of active gold and silver members (That means 360 only) did not dwindle down, it only grew. Considering that the setup is done from your 360, it's a pretty clear picture of how many more units worked fine.
Again, that's not to say that there weren't broken units. The trouble is, people with broken units are naturally going to be so much more vocal at launch time, than the people wth working ones. Not to mention the impending storm of rumors from fake 'victims' seeking either a rise from other users or a false sympathy. And as sad as that is, we all know it occurs more often than not.
So ZIppyDSM and Sammoris, I'm not saying broken units didn't exist. But I am saying that proven facts indicate a gross exagguration spurred from the small percentage of unfortunate customers, and the much larger number of non-customers who just love to pretend.
One other point; we also know that some of these units were purchased as gifts for christmas, which is interesting, because imagine the horror stories that would have flooded the net if little Johnnys and Tylers everywhere opened broken 360's for Christmas. While I'm sure we can all fnd one or two, if you really look at it, you would have heard an even bigger second uproar, not just from customers and 'customers' but from the media doing huge sob story specials right after Christmas... And you know the media would've absolutely JUMPED on it.
I'm not calling anyone a liar, but it should be noted how many users have had absolutely perfect luck with the systems. When I took home my new unit, I didn't spend my first week telling everyone it worked and how functional it was, I was too busy trying everything out. I didn't even know my co-workers had obtained them over the first month, because they were suddenly very quiet when they got it. They just wanted to see everything it had.
I'm hoping that this makes more sense on an agreeable level.
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13. September 2006 @ 05:42 |
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Yeah I can agree with that, I'm sure the working systems are by far in the majority. However, why were there so many more bitch stories this time than before? That has me genuinely perplexed.
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13. September 2006 @ 05:56 |
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More than before? A legitimate question.
How many more users have better access to broadband connections to share their horror stories with you? And how many more people (thanks to broadband now being the standard in many American homes) are posting fake stories all over the internet about any current event or person?
Comparing now to the launch of the PS2, how many more people now create entire elaborate rumors and sites claming that some (very living) celebrity is dead, n a tragic car accident? How many websites and threads have been flooded with "news" of osama bin laden's capture, swearing up and down that it was true? How many more posters are on the net, telling you their opinion on something they may or may not know about, unless you either have some way to verify or know them personally?
The number of users has grown overall, and with it the amount of garbage on the net. When you assume that the number of users has grown that much, and that there are probably one or two users in a given united state that would actually consider taking time away from their precious new toy to tell the world that it works, compared to the hundreds of thousands more users who now exist since the last major console launch; it makes a lot of sense.
BTW; when the PSP launched, despite it's being a portable, and not what I would deem a *true* console necessarily, does no one recall how many hundreds of thousands of dead pixel complaints there were? And that was found to be more than 60% of units. Not to mention the fact that many retailers refused to honor ther own in-store warrantees for this problem. I was one of them. I've still got mine from launch, dead pixels and all, still use it, Sony told me they wanted $70 to change out the LCD, because this was a standard occurence, and therefore did not merit 'defect'.
What's up with that?
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13. September 2006 @ 06:03 |
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That is dire, but like I've said before, Sony's after-sales support is terrible, thankfully I've never had to use it. I actually don't buy much Sony stuff, because I don't think it's worth the premium. Sony are a bit like Mercedes-benz, they used to offer high quality products at possibly-justified high prices. Now they've started to cut corners to cut costs, and kept the prices the same. If I want something with a good reputation and quality and don't mind paying extra for that, I look to Panasonic, Toshiba, Sharp etc.
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13. September 2006 @ 06:30 |
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Shame Panasonic no longer manufactures consoles... I still have an operational 3DO. Those things were built to last, I was dissapointed that they never actually did the memory upgrade, I can only keep saves for about ten games at a time.
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13. September 2006 @ 06:33 |
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Thank you Sammorris for that wonderful link, I'm not sure if the recent layout change was throwing me off, or if it was just a blonde moment.
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13. September 2006 @ 06:33 |
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Yeah, oh I must apologise, I forgot NEC and LG! The image quality of LG Plasma TVs on show at my local stores is just mindboggling. I've also had an Excellent DVD writer from LG, and indeed from NEC. Our TV is a Sharp, and that's pretty good. Shame about the SD picture quality though.
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13. September 2006 @ 06:35 |
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13. September 2006 @ 06:40 |
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NEC had an interesting go at consoles as well. Look at the turbografx. That puppy outperformed anything the competition could muster by leaps and bounds at the time, and yet, it failed miserably.
What's up with that?
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13. September 2006 @ 06:54 |
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The better product does not always win. The better marketed product does.
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13. September 2006 @ 06:54 |
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yep the interview i was reading is a p**s take about the differences between blueray and hddvd, i thought it used a narrower bandwidth colour to get a more data on the disk, anyway now that i know its not serious it actualy quite a funny article in a tongue in cheek way.
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13. September 2006 @ 06:59 |
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The better product does not always win. The better marketed product does.
I couldn't agree more. God, I love agreeing.
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13. September 2006 @ 07:09 |
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LOL that'll get you far mate, trust me.
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