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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 10:55 |
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Hey guys. Remember a while back I said that the bad start of the 360 in Japan was because none of the japanese had the games they wanted to buy from the system. I said it was a bad mistake for Microsoft to release it in Japan before Australia and shortages in US. I also gave quotes from a group who went around interviewing the Japanese consumers to which they replied that they wanted the games they liked out on the system before they bought it, this is why my view on things in Japan was that 360 will pick up in Japan and do very well (but most likely not aswell as the PS3 but it would do far better than the xbox and close the gap on Sony). Well I have some more evidence to why I think my predictions will come true. Here is a photo of a Dead or Alive kiosk in Japan, as you can see (and from what was described) a very large croud gathered (and cued) to have a go on one of Japans anticipated games.
Also for those that are getting a 360, I thought you mite like to know that besides moding the 360 with its face plates you can also mod the controler with face plates as well. Here are two picture's of two (there are more designs and alot more to come) designs you can have for the controler.
In answer to your question anubis I havent got a 360 yet because I live in Australia. Instead I have bought a 360 VIP pack (only for Australians to soften the blow for the long wait). However this does not garantee I will be buying a 360, if Sony convince me that PS3 is the better choice in January then I will purchas the PS3. I will be buying both consoles eventualy but what ever console I buy first then my next console I wont be buying until 2 years down the line.
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HOWJORD
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22. December 2005 @ 10:57 |
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WATCHED SONYS PRESENTATION FROM E3 ALL THEY SHOW ARE NON GAMEPLAY SHOTS, WHY HAVENT THEY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE PS3 IT SEEMS IT DOESNT EVEN EXIST, THERE IS NOTHING ON THE PLAYSTATION WEBSITE AT ALL. SONY IS TAKING A BIG GAMBLE WITH THESE EXPENSIVE BLUE RAY DISKS, WHATS THE POINT MOST GAMES AT THE MOMENT DONT EVEN FILL A STANDARD DVD-R, HOW BIG R THEIR GAMES GONNA BE? WHY DO YOU NEED THE CAPACITY OF A HARD DRIVE JUST FOR A GAME?. SONY ALWAYS SHOW AMAZING PREVIEWS OF GAMES BUT AS SOON AS THEY HIT THE PS2 THE AMOUNT OF COLOURS DIPLAYED AND CRISPNESS OF THE GRAPHICS ARE LOST, BLUE RAY HASNT BEEN OUT FOR VERY LONG AT ALL, WHAT IF IT DOESNT TAKE OFF? AT LEAST DVD'S ARE HERE ALREADY. THE 360 ATLEAST HAVE THE CHEAPER TO PRODUCE GAMES. BLUE RAY IS EXPENSIVE AND RARE.
I SEE SOMEONE WHOS FREID WORKS AT SONY SAID THAT THE PS3 IS GONNA WHIP THE 360, WELL ISNT THAT A SURPRISE, IT WOULDNT BE VERY GO IF AN EMPLYOYEE DIDNT THINK THAT THE COMPANY HE WORKS FOR PRODUCED RUBBISH PRODUCTS.
SONY SAY THAT THE PS3 IS THE ONLY ONE TO PRODUCE MOVIE LIKE GRAPHICS, CHECK OUT THE NEW NBA GAME ON THE 360 MOVIE GRAPHICS ARE ALREADY HERE.
SONY IS PROBABLY REWORKING THE FINAL RELEASE VERSION OF THE PS3 THATS WHY NO ONES HEARD ANYTHING
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liljohn
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22. December 2005 @ 11:02 |
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hey guys i took a look back and i took back my decision for ps3 now ill just wait cuz i thougt about it right now im coparing bettwen a system that is out and anthor that isn't i guss ill wait until ps3 is out and then it well be a fare coparing. just announcet to tell everyone i don't have a decision yet just an advise don't make the same mistake its not the right time rushing won't help. wait for a fare compare. thank you whoever said that i forgot who
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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 11:03 |
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New newb. i am going to tell you that caps on is not allowed on ad, you can get bann.
fool, the blueray is not as big as all hardrives.
Games are goign to be alote bigger. Heck from snes to n64, the snes games wre like half a mb, n64 games were 20-40 mb, gc games 1-2 gb. ps2 and xbox games 2-4 gb. Each gen of consols need moe more space. If you do the math patterns, youll get arround on eblueray disk space needed.
The ps3\360 textures take up wa more space, anything you possably can think of, exp music, takes up way more space on theese disks. fool, ps3 got a huge advantage over there.
Zelda, mabey things will change in japan, but i think resident evil is comming out untill next year, arround ps3 time. Same with ff 12 or 13. Those controllers look nice tho. Those fans also could be there just to check the game aswell.
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liljohn
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22. December 2005 @ 11:10 |
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you no wat guys im buying both systems (if i can!)
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22. December 2005 @ 11:13 |
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same here!
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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 11:14 |
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Lol. I really like the style of that controller zelda. It looks nice.
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 11:28 |
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Capcom said they wanted to release Resident Evil on both systems at the same time. So it will most likely be a PS3 launch title. Also confirmed a PS3 launch title is Unreal Tournament 2007 which looks stunning. Both these games are for the 360 and PS3 and look amazing so cant wait for them to come out.
HOWJORD I think most of what you say is correct which is why I am turned off from Sony at the time being. Sony dont show in game shots and give that false representation. Also this blue ray disc argument again. I cant remember anyone complaining about switching disc's over on Final Fantasy or Metal Gear Solid. Its the games that count and to prove this the perfect example is the PS1 and N64. With the N64 you didnt have to swith over cartidgs plus there was the added bonus of no loading time's. Where as with the PS1 you had these long loading times and switching over of disc's so if this was truely a problem then wouldnt the N64 come out on top in that generation?
HOWJORD liljohn and if you have a decent broadband connection then take a look at Gears of War and Mass Effect, both of which are in game demonstrations. A good Gears of War demonstration is on www.xbox360news.com and a good Mass Effect demonstration is on www.gametrailers.com. Check them out and get back to me on your opinion.
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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 11:32 |
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yes, but you forgot about texture detailing. ps3 game developers have more flexablity to put way more details in there games. Exp the multy console games.
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 11:34 |
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Not if they are putting it on mutiple discs. Also one thing I forgot to add is those controler face plate's come with a chip inside which stores you Gamertag identity. Its a nice personal touch and is good if yo take your controler around your mates house.
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chimpanel
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22. December 2005 @ 11:34 |
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I can see Howjord's point here, sometimes media doesn't take off, look at minidisc for example. I thought that would be the next big thing but that quickly went downhill, also remember it is possible that it won't catch on until much further in the future. Blue ray may be a little too advanced for its time perhaps? Now saying that it could be a shining success who knows but they are points worth considering. I personaly believe hd dvd will be the next popular type of media but thats my opinion. Anyway I don't think disc space to be too big a deal, yes i would to prefer to have it than not but the only game i got a bit annoyed with when changing disc was baldurs gate as it had 5 discs but I still bought it and still loved the game. Again I want to urge pple to check out this clip of gears of war. The video is of in game graphics of gears of war. Its a little over 100mb but i tell you it takes a lot to wow me but this...I just couldn't believe it.
http://www.xbox360news.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_1305.aspx
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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 11:38 |
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Quote:
Not if they are putting it on mutiple discs.
Im talking about the ps3 agmes only, not the multy consol.
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 11:40 |
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I am talking about the xbox 360 games only not the multiple consoles. If a company wants to release a game with as much detailing and textures as PS3 then they release the game on 2-3 disc's. Thats my point.
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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 11:42 |
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And im still talking about flexabilty.
360 developers are still trying to aviod multy disking.
Can you imagine how long a 2blueray disk game would be? :O
And no, they cant fill all the detailied textures on more than one disk, the detailed textures may take alote of space. I dont know how to clearify it more than this.
If the high detailed textures go on one disk of the 360's, that would take the room out of gameplay. Out of alote of things. ps3's disks have more flexabilty to put more detailed disks on the blueray. its 50gb.
If each 360 disk has high detailed everything, it would cause everything else to decrease. Music\gameplay\what ever you can name. The textures are limited on the disk. If each 360 disk has high detailed everything, the gameplay would be really really short, and will be more than 5 disks.
Ill try to explain better next time.
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chimpanel
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22. December 2005 @ 11:43 |
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Zelda I was checking out your links and I have seen these too. What did you think of the in game gears of war graphs? I just can't w8 for that game to come out, I love the parts where he just sticks his hand over the wall and starts shooting and the mine sequence is aewsome.
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 11:44 |
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Yeah about 200hours long and simply no point. If develpoers want a good looking game then they will not avoid multiple discs just like FF and MG didnt avoid it with the PS1.
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 11:47 |
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Yes I saw the Gears of War deomnstration and thats w big part to why I am on the 360 side of things at the moment. The game is simply put Stuning! The AI is beyond this world, the detail and graphics make you believe its real and the storyline and action is amazing. I love the fact that characters you play actualy do resond to thier surroundings by firing over walls and through gaps while running and ducking for cuver. Also have you checked out Mass Effect on the 360 Chimpanel?
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liljohn
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22. December 2005 @ 11:48 |
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quick qustion do any of u no if there is ps3 live or xbox 360 live i mean can u play online on one of them or both or wat?
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KoOkOo67
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22. December 2005 @ 11:48 |
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Just read above, i edited somthing.
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 11:54 |
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I think what you just say there is a very poor excuse for a disagreement Kookoo. I like the PS3 but the graphics will not be improved by disc size and niether will the games. 360 will not be crippled in graphics by disc size. More proof of this is again Final Fantasy. The graphic quality of this game did not decrees compared to other games on the PS1 or 2.
How can you possibly say that high textures and detail if put on a 360 disc will decrees in gameplay? Gameplay is not a source of informatin that has to be stored? Its an opinion on how good a game is to play?
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liljohn
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22. December 2005 @ 11:57 |
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quick qustion do any of u no if there is ps3 live or xbox 360 live i mean can u play online on one of them or both or wat? please tell me as soon as you can if u no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
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chimpanel
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22. December 2005 @ 11:57 |
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Liljohn you can play online with both consoles, online gaming is becoming big buisness and the next new thing so to speak. The argument is which console will have the better online capabilities. My personal opinion is that microsofts net capabilities will be better simply because they are microsoft and know about this stuff + they emphasised how much work they but in their net capabilities. However i want to point out that is just my opinion and until ps3 reveals more we don't know.
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liljohn
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22. December 2005 @ 12:09 |
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and do we have to pay to play online?????
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zelda64
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22. December 2005 @ 12:11 |
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I think Chimpanel has hit the nail on the head there. Thats exactly my views on the internet capabilities of the next generation. On the 360 you will have to pay one once a year small payment, with the PS3 I think more than likely you wont but know one know's for sure yet until January? I believe if Sony have a similar set up to Microsoft they will have to charge inorder to keep the servie running smoothly paying employee's to keep it running like it should and to make sure evryone gets a god gaming experiance on the net.
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tucker200
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22. December 2005 @ 12:34 |
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ok i have 1 thing to say XBOX 360 RULES
end of story....
PS3 ya uhhhhhh...... no....
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