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17. November 2008 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Yah, I got the jitter working on the litey. Howcome onya gets a 97 for all those pif's and spikes? NOT FAIR, LOL
different drive doing the scanning.. as GM said nothing but a litey or benq t odo scans.... even my 7200s doesnt scan as well as the litey's
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17. November 2008 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
But if your interested, its the worst scan ive EVER seen!
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1483/dennisscandv6.jpg
The indicated recorder is false as well. Rather odd.
Oh Boy!!! Look at all the pretty colors!!! It's so festive-looking!!!!! LOL

Not the worse I've seen (or done). I'm not a big fan of Daxon, never was able to get a decent burn with them.

Here's one of my gems:


This one went straight to the dumper.


Took me a while but I found one "prettier" than yours:




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17. November 2008 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow! Ok, now ive seen um all. :)



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17. November 2008 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I love all the colors. Do any of them actually play??????


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17. November 2008 @ 21:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Depends on what you mean by 'play'.

The discs spin, images flash on the screen and sound comes out of the speakers, but not what should! :D

I stopped using that drive for burning shortly afterwards, I think it flaked out.

Am currently thinking about putting it back in for scanning purposes only as I think my Benq DW1655 is starting to flake on it's scans now.




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17. November 2008 @ 23:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oi!!! It's a hobbit. :)

O-man I would guess that drive is "flaking" out as well. NOT necessarily the case but it's looking that way from my experience. :D

With the cost of ODD's nowadays it's nothing to spend $20 and get the drive delivered. :D I have purchased a couple of drives on the cheap the last 6 months and with delivery were less than $20 each. :D Just gotta watch those super sales. :P

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17. November 2008 @ 23:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Be Afraid, be very afraid.

Here is a burn at full tilt, that is right, 20X on the Litey.
This thing actually plays, believe it or not.
Burned using IMGBurn.





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18. November 2008 @ 00:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
blivet that thing might play right now but what about in a month or so. :P

Hope all is well buddy. :)

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18. November 2008 @ 01:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For some reason my old SONY DRU710A (a rebadged Liteon 1633S) has a little bit of Jitter (LOL...5% graphic, but everything on numbers of Average and Maximum), why not the whole Jitter graph? I have no idea, LOL. Just a rescanned of same backup of "KUNGFU PANDA" from earlier post.



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18. November 2008 @ 03:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh boy oh boy. Its 7200A burning time, LOL. Nah, not to bad a burn though. As you can see, even with a new burner and no matter what the media, the consistant spike (indicated) is once again there. I wonder if any of the cdf's would know what that could be. Yes, the discs playable. But I still wanna know. :D I like the way this burner sounds. Trays kinda STUPID FAST though. Seems solid enough though. I suppose as long as it burns 20 discs though, I'll be happy. I do have a one year on it though. It even cut 20sec on the burn time! Please also note that the indicated spike isnt some consistant 10pif mark, im talking an average of 104PIF's 9/10 times if not everytime! If it were only a measly 10pif's I wouldnt be knocking it sooo bad.





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18. November 2008 @ 07:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@omegaman

there is nothing wrong with that burn. I'd take it every time.


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18. November 2008 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
blivet that thing might play right now but what about in a month or so. :P

Hope all is well buddy. :)

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I agree with you 100% In my eyes, that's a coaster! It goes in the round file! LOL!! :)

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18. November 2008 @ 08:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Oh boy oh boy. Its 7200A burning time, LOL. Nah, not to bad a burn though. As you can see, even with a new burner and no matter what the media, the consistant spike (indicated) is once again there. I wonder if any of the cdf's would know what that could be. Yes, the discs playable. But I still wanna know. :D I like the way this burner sounds. Trays kinda STUPID FAST though. Seems solid enough though. I suppose as long as it burns 20 discs though, I'll be happy. I do have a one year on it though. It even cut 20sec on the burn time! Please also note that the indicated spike isnt some consistant 10pif mark, im talking an average of 104PIF's 9/10 times if not everytime! If it were only a measly 10pif's I wouldnt be knocking it sooo bad.

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are you saying that 1 spike there is givine you 104pif's and then the rest of the scan only produced 96 pifs? from what i have seen and done with these scans that block of PIF's at the 4.0 mark would have given you the 200 total you have.

you say you get that same spike on every disc. you have to remember that around that .5 mark is normally where the the actual movie starts. all the previews and menu end and the movie starts.
heres what ya need to try once.. use DVD-Rebuilder and do movie only with it and then burn and scan and see what you get.

that scan right there is as next to perfect your gonna get.even your jitter is well below the so called standard for jitter testing.

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Originally posted by blivetNC:
Be Afraid, be very afraid.

Here is a burn at full tilt, that is right, 20X on the Litey.
This thing actually plays, believe it or not.
Burned using IMGBurn.



wow thats hard to beleive a TY did that lovely...lol im suprised the 20x burn i did on the last page here looked like it did. tbh i thought it would look like what you posted..lol has me wondering if they ever did start to make 20x disc what they would look like??????

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18. November 2008 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Oh boy oh boy. Its 7200A burning time, LOL. Nah, not to bad a burn though. As you can see, even with a new burner and no matter what the media, the consistant spike (indicated) is once again there. I wonder if any of the cdf's would know what that could be. Yes, the discs playable. But I still wanna know. :D I like the way this burner sounds. Trays kinda STUPID FAST though. Seems solid enough though. I suppose as long as it burns 20 discs though, I'll be happy. I do have a one year on it though. It even cut 20sec on the burn time! Please also note that the indicated spike isnt some consistant 10pif mark, im talking an average of 104PIF's 9/10 times if not everytime! If it were only a measly 10pif's I wouldnt be knocking it sooo bad.


You'll like that drive O-man. :D

OK.... I'm still a bit lost on your concern for that "104PIF" thingy... What is it and what do you mean? I'm being thick here I'm sure but if your reader is like mine that "mark" should indicate about a total of 3 or 4 PIF's at that point in the graph. It looks to be at about the 400MB as well.

hmmmmmmmm.... What is consistent in your process when you backup your DVD? What I mean is... what do you do the same every time you create a burn? Ripping progie, HDD transfer, burning progie, surfing, speed of burn, speed of rip, scanning progie, and so on. There has to be something that you can change to change that spike. Of course assuming there is something wrong. lol.

You got me curious for nothing else as to have some fun. lol. :P

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18. November 2008 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
heres a Cmag for ya all..take away the spike to 94 at the begining its not to bad.... for what it is..lol



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18. November 2008 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I burn obscene amounts of CMC M01's, no complaints here. No scans though..



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18. November 2008 @ 12:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
I burn obscene amounts of CMC M01's, no complaints here. No scans though..
creaky I've burned a few too and if your burner likes the M01's then you're fine. ;) My buddy burned a few back in the summer time and they were terrible, skipping, freezing, and all that business. Of course he had some crappy Philips external POS... lol. Don't know model #.. sorry. :P

Where is O-man?? I needs some sort of reply... hehehe. :P

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18. November 2008 @ 12:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
other than the scans looking like they look i cant complain about them as of yet. i havent had any skip o r any thing on me, yet,just have to see how they play this time next year????
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18. November 2008 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok. That scan showed only 40 pifs, in the indicated area. 104 pifs is the average. 9/10. Now... that COULD easily change with a new burner. Dont know. The large block in the scan was pushing 100. Now... my process is as follows. Depending on encryption, i'll either use dvdshrink(anydvd running), or anydvd to rip to HDD folder. Dvdshrink seems to rip faster most the time, depending on the drive. Sometimes however I'll fire up Dvdfab. Sometimes when theirs lots of previews, I wanna circumvent them. Then I run the files through rebuilder w/cce, AND have it create the iso. That way I can burn burn burn. LOL. Please note though, Some of my burns are 8 months old. And my process has changed a little since then. But for the most part its the same. Thanks for the opinion on backing up JUST the movie. I will try it VERY soon. :D



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18. November 2008 @ 17:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sure am loving how consistant these PREMIUM TY's are. Very cool!







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19. November 2008 @ 01:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok. As suggested/requested, here is a backup of JUST the main title. No compression, dvd shrink to iso, imgburn. As you can see, the pif spike is there. Apparently 40 failures within. Much like the last scan. The optiarc seems to only introduce 40 where my other burners do 104 average. Im really beginning to wonder if my media is somehow the cause. It wouldnt surprise me. Even though premium and valueline yield same results. They are produced on the same line, ive heard. Both medias were purchased from meritline. What I need now is to test some of SMS's. If SMS's test better...well... I think you know the answer to that. If it is a flaw in the media, that would suggest that the optiarc yields better burns than the lite-on. Most interesting :D





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19. November 2008 @ 04:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok. Probably the media producing the 40-104 pif spike. On this Datawrite disc, the spike in that area was only 5. Yes, this is a good burn. The optiarc did a pretty good job with this disc. But the lite-on yielded even better results. However that could be due to firmware or smartburn technology, which the litey possesses :D perhaps the optiarc has a better firmware reguarding TY's than the litey. I may never know. There are so many variables in the PERFECT burn its not even funny. Anyway... looks like problem solved for now. See... I was looking over a Silver printable TY scan I did a few weeks ago, and noticed no spike in the mentioned area. I didnt wanna use one of those for testing though because my stockpile of Silver printables are SCARCE! LOL





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19. November 2008 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Oman

maybe you need to wipe off the green streak on your monitor screen! LOL


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19. November 2008 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
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maybe you need to wipe off the green streak on your monitor screen! LOL
Could be a cause, but not very viable. lol. :P

O-man try this link for some "patched and updated" f/w. ;)

I would give the 1.Z3 patch a go first. It should combine and use the most forgiving and strategically best of the best so to say. ;)

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19. November 2008 @ 11:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:

O-man try this link for some "patched and updated" f/w. ;)

I would give the 1.Z3 patch a go first. It should combine and use the most forgiving and strategically best of the best so to say. ;)

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Dee found some errors in the 1.Z3 patch so grab the 1.Z2 instead unless you are over-speeding, then grab the 1.06bt.

Dee says that she will post a fixed version of the 1.Z3 asap and will call it 1.Z4 to stop any confusion.


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