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9. November 2011 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't use the front HAF port. Once upon a time, I was getting dropouts. I gave up on it. I added one of those adapter plates to the back, which adapts sata to eSATA. My guess is, I pushed the tower too close to the wall, and bent the connector. It has two ports, and I only use one. Gonna have to switch to the other, and see if that helps. Just haven't gotten around to it. I need to. When the Dock is connected via usb, the drives like to idle. I don't want them to! LOL!



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9. November 2011 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, those aren't proper eSATA ports either. Like I say, native eSATA ports straight off the controller have proven no problem for me.



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9. November 2011 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh yes! I wouldn't mind at least one of those. Apparently my board is grossly outdated LOL! I need to upgrade for multiple reasons now!

I'm an idiot!!! I have two!!!!!!!



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Every single port and LED on my HAF works fine... Likewise my side panel isn't warped and certainly wouldn't just warp on its own. You ever think you just beat on it Sam? I can't believe you guys have issues with the ports or LEDs. I have a few friends with HAFs as well and they all have no problems with the ports.



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Considering that most of the people I know who have coolermaster cases have the exact same issue, and the NZXTs that have been to LANs more often all have perfectly working ports, no, it's nothing to do with my usage :P



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I used my port once, Jeff. It failed after 30 minutes. Disconnected and tried again. Fail! Whether it's the total length of cable, or the shoddiness of the build, I guess I'll never know. The boards eSATA ports will serve me fine. I can't believe I forgot about those :S



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What a shame that eSATA isn't more like USB, or HDMI. Those are pretty solid connectors. Haven't had problems with those. eSATA just doesn't feel very snug.
Back ports seem ok so far :)



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eSATA's not so bad, it's regular SATA that's the problem, hence SATA->eSATA adapters often proving problematic.



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Well I tried to hotswap my internals again. Bluescreen once again. The power cable was fine. But right when I plugged in the data cable to the first swap, I heard the disconnect sound, Twice! Looked at the screen, and my icons disappeared. SHortly after, blue!
You know what? Screw it LOL! I don't swap internals very often. Not very often at all. And given the data involved, I'd rather not tempt fate! I'll just power her down each time. It doesn't take that long ;)



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Likewise I always have a backup plan. A few extra cables left free to just hook up internally. I'm running some old and somewhat questionable drives, along side my newer 1TB Greens. SO as of currently I'm being pretty careful with my drives. Staying internal and unmoved mostly...

Been looking into a few more of those 1TB drives to finally replace some of the older 500GB drives I have sitting full of stuff. Ideally would like about ~10TB mirrored ie 20 drives. Expensive though. Something to look at in the future.

Damn you mechanical storage for having a tangible lifespan and damn you SSDs for not being cheap or reliable enough for large capacity storage. If SSDs could get some improvements they'd be a great insurance policy for your storage but as of right now they're even more of a liability than mechanicals...



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If you're going to mirror, may as well use 2 sets of 5 2TB drives. Wait until the production crisis is over though eh?



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Indeed. I won't be buying any hard drives til february.

Perhaps by then, the crisis will be over.



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From what I'm seeing you should basically avoid 2TB drives like the plague...

Also, if I do go for a larger drive array 'm gonna have to dust off ye olde Thermaltake Armor. Still has the most drive bays of any case I own... it even has hidden ones where no other case does.



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Whaaat! I love my 2Tb drives :S



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I've read some bad things, even about the best rated ones. Would love for someone more in-the-know to enlighten me.



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Well, I have 3 of the WD20EARS drives. I haven't had any trouble with them. Fact of the matter is, I've seen more stutters from the 3Tb drives, then the 2's. Not sure what to think really. When watching blu-rays, I'll get this fast forward kind of look. Like the frames have to catch up with the audio. Not bad rips either. But there's another part to that equation. The Card which allows the board/OS to interpret the drives properly. I guess I won't know til I upgrade my motherboard. I haven't had a bad BD burn from the card/drives though. So I'm really not complaining. The velociraptors are the only WD drives, that have given me headaches :(



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I've read some bad things, even about the best rated ones. Would love for someone more in-the-know to enlighten me.
There are plenty of really poor reviews on newegg, I have to admit. You have to take it in context though, there may be problems getting them from newegg but I have 10 WD20EARS drives (which score very badly on newegg) and thus far, none of them have been problematic, and neither have any of the other 12 WD Greens I own, some of which are now 4 years old. It's tempting fate by saying this, but not one of them has even had a minor fault yet. What I would say - don't fullformat them, and don't use them in RAID unless you're willing to make some config tweaks. By sticking to this, I've done pretty well for disks, the only drives I've ever had fail and lose data, were destroyed by power faults. Only one drive has failed per-se, and that's one with bad sectors, it's been repairable, it's just beyond economical use to keep doing it. (2006 Samsung HD400LJ, failed 2009)



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I really don't do any media burning as my entire entertainment setup is running through the HDMI to my TV. Who needs an expensive BluRay player or PS3 when you can do the same thing without discs at all?

I'm going for reliability first, simplicity second. Obviously running RAID 1 adds to the complication but what doesn't these days. I'm probably happier in the long run throwing caution to the wind and using single drives for my storage.



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Storing Blu-ray on Hdd's would fill my drives extremely rapidly. It's more practical for me to burn to cheap bd optical media. Just trust me LOL!



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Well full quality BR rips is a different story entirely. What are they now 50GB a piece? NO thanks. I can basically match the quality in most repsects with a 15GB MKV. Good example being Star Trek 2009 on BR vs the 15GB MKV. Honestly can't tell the difference...



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As far as I know, up to date boards can use the drives - you can also now buy the drives without the controller card. You just have to be using AHCI on your controller for it to be able to read the disks, they need to be formatted as GPT, and your BIOS needs LCD support (large capacity disk) to boot from them (normally a requirement of EFI, but Gigabyte seem to support it with conventional BIOSes as of Sandy Bridge)



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As far as i'm aware, the only thing to be wary of with some new drives ie some 'advanced format' drives is using them in NAS devices, some RAID's throw a fit with them. It's to do with the energy saving features as far as i remember.
I was reading that it'll possibly be at least 'til the first quarter of next year before drive production improves, what with some hard drive-related manufacturers being in the same flood-plain vicinity of (for example) Western Digital's biggest plant in Thailand. Eggs and Baskets come to mind. And the cynic in me wonders whether some of the bigger companies will use this situation to further push their 'cloud storage' idiocy on anyone stupid enough to part with their data (do people seriously want the likes of Apple/Google etc in sole charge of their actual data, boggles the mind). Anyways, the other side of that is that cloud storage probably uses some hard drive tech, not sure as the whole concept disturbs me, my data is my own thanks :)

As to BR Rips, as i always say, 4GB and below can have some amazing quality, doesn't have to be silly sized files



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wow, we're on a roll today - the 'oops, something has gone wrong' message and now this:





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LOL Cloud storage. Stupidity made simple. Luckily for me my iPad 2 is jailbroken and will not be seeing any apple official updates :P

Need I remind anyone of the Apple camera driver debacle? Basically the jailbroken camera drivers are triple the quality. Apple literally nerfs their own camera app...



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Well full quality BR rips is a different story entirely. What are they now 50GB a piece? NO thanks. I can basically match the quality in most repsects with a 15GB MKV. Good example being Star Trek 2009 on BR vs the 15GB MKV. Honestly can't tell the difference...
You're not meant to - 15GB is ample for that res and that length. The point is, household video players don't have the processing power to decode that level of compression. Since BR can hold that much data, may as well use it.



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