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PS3 Swap Switch Tutorial
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bjodnes
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19. June 2007 @ 23:28 |
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Can this swap-metod be used for playing DVD-movies also?
I have a japanese PS3 and it does not play my PAL dvd's. Can I put in a japanese DVD to be checked and then swap it with a PAL-DVD?
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20. June 2007 @ 04:41 |
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I am quite sure I read somewhere you can play ANY region DVD on a PS3 with a sort of swap or something but you don't need to open it up to get it to work. If I find it I will post it if anyone else knows what I am talking about please post it here.
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SupraGaz
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20. June 2007 @ 05:00 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
I am quite sure I read somewhere you can play ANY region DVD on a PS3 with a sort of swap or something but you don't need to open it up to get it to work. If I find it I will post it if anyone else knows what I am talking about please post it here.
Was it the method where you change the .vob extension to .mp4 or something? I remember a similar thing too.
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SupraGaz
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20. June 2007 @ 05:20 |
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Got abit of an update on my mates PS3.
I changed the main circuit board underneath the blu ray drive:
And DVD's would now load again. I could load original PS2 games again and use the swap trick with the switch. This lasted about 10 minutes and then the same problem re-occured. I swapped that board over again with another one and it worked fine. I tried the board that wasnt working in another PS3 and it did not work so something dodgy is happening to that particualr board within the BRD when using this swap method. I just hope it has nothing to do with the switch method and it seems a coinsidence that using this is blowing something on the circuit board because otherwise alot of them will start breaking down soon.
I just cant believe though how soon the 2nd board broke down after only doing 3 or 4 swaps. The thing was though I wasnt getting a backup PS2 game to load. I'd get the PlayStation 2 splash logo and then it would lock up with a black screen...
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
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tsrps3
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20. June 2007 @ 06:06 |
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Supra; good info, thanks.
So all the lasers are in fact intact, and only the BD drive board are damaged it seems?
Maybe the problem is due to how one uses the swap method?
Here's mine.
From PS3 in standby, i put the original and load it using the switch "load" position. The PS3 switches ON by itself and loads the original. When the original is shown in the XMB, i always wait about 15 seconds for the laser to be done authenticating. Then i use the switch "eject" position, remove the original and insert backup using the swicht 'load" position. Then I put the switch OFF.
I play the backup, when I'm done I power off the PS3, _then_ use the switch "eject" feature to remove the backup (from switched-off PS3).
I also only use high quality Mitsubishi DVD-Rs that I burn slow if that makes any difference..
This problem is quite frightning and the more info we get about it, the less I understand.
At first, I thought the DVD reading part of the laser died. But now if the lasers are intact and it's the board that's actually damage, it doesn't make sense to me anymore because I would assume NOTHING would work anymore if the board is damaged.. but you say it's limited to DVD reading.. hmm
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samhung
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20. June 2007 @ 06:08 |
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Very odd, supragaz.
Is your original motor wires connected while u do the switch?
If not, maybe connecting it will bring it back alive?
I think maybe sony put a fix in to prevent this in 1.8+ but if
it happens only after a couple times more people would be having
the same problem. Only way to find out is if u upgrade ur machine
to 1.81 and try, dunno if u want to that.
Good thing its not the laser, but worse since that board is harder
to find and replace. Maybe Pizzag's problem is this and not the
laser too.
TSR, r u on 1.81 US box?
Could there be a short somewhere when u use the switch?
Did u put all the screws back and those metal grouding contacts back
on too?
I really hope sony didnt put in some disable dvd code. :(
Can people using 1.81 please let us know if its working or not and
the region of ur ps3. THX.
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SupraGaz
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20. June 2007 @ 06:12 |
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Quote:
Supra; good info, thanks.
So all the lasers are in fact intact, and only the BD drive board are damaged it seems?
Maybe the problem is due to how one uses the swap method?
Here's mine.
From PS3 in standby, i put the original and load it using the switch "load" position. The PS3 switches ON by itself and loads the original. When the original is shown in the XMB, i always wait about 15 seconds for the laser to be done authenticating. Then i use the switch "eject" position, remove the original and insert backup using the swicht 'load" position. Then I put the switch OFF.
I play the backup, when I'm done I power off the PS3, _then_ use the switch "eject" feature to remove the backup (from switched-off PS3).
I also only use high quality Mitsubishi DVD-Rs that I burn slow if that makes any difference..
This problem is quite frightning and the more info we get about it, the less I understand.
At first, I thought the DVD reading part of the laser died. But now if the lasers are intact and it's the board that's actually damage, it doesn't make sense to me anymore because I would assume NOTHING would work anymore if the board is damaged.. but you say it's limited to DVD reading.. hmm
Yep it is strange. Perhaps it could be something to do with the current from the switch or perhaps the switch being used is worn and may need replacing... I really dont know anymore. At least I have diagnosed the problem but still do not know the cause.
(And I did my swaps in the same way. Started with the cosole in standby, it turns on automatically when the drive is switched to load and removed the disc once the console was off at the end).
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Very odd, supragaz.
Is your original motor wires connected while u do the switch?
If not, maybe connecting it will bring it back alive?
I think maybe sony put a fix in to prevent this in 1.8+ but if
it happens only after a couple times more people would be having
the same problem. Only way to find out is if u upgrade ur machine
to 1.81 and try, dunno if u want to that.
Good thing its not the laser, but worse since that board is harder
to find and replace.
The original motor wires were not connected. At the minute I have taken the motor out of another PS3 and fitted this and the problem is still there even with original functionality now.
I am already at 1.81 but the problem has only occured since the machine has been at 1.81.
Cheers
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tsrps3
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20. June 2007 @ 06:24 |
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Originally posted by samhung:
TSR, r u on 1.81 US box?
No i'm on 1.81 JPN PS3.
The swap still works exactly the same here.
I doubt VERY MUCH the wires to the motor have any influence over the problem we're dealing with right now.
Later,
TSR
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SupraGaz
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20. June 2007 @ 06:50 |
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The machine in question is Jpn also. Was on 1.50 then updated to 1.81.
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vegetassj
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20. June 2007 @ 07:26 |
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Wow thats a wierd problem.
Mine has been working since yesterday. I tried 2 or 3 backups and they worked. But it was wierd, sometimes I too would get a blank screen after Playstation 2. I think its because I load legit, then backup and then swap with another backup, and I think thats when it happens.
So from now on what I do is, load legit and then load backup and use these steps everytime. So if I have a backup in the system, I will eject it so the PS3 thinks there is no disc, load legit one, and then eject and load backup.
I have been able to do this all the time during the power is on, it seems to work so far. Although the drive seems to be loud now for some reason, and I think its probably because i may be missing a screw or something, otherwise the movies and games load fine, so I would think its just not put back in properly or something.
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tsrps3
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20. June 2007 @ 12:15 |
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Btw guys, anyone manage to boot PS2 games that are on CD ?
It starts here, i see the PS2 logo, then it comes back to XMB with an error "a problem occured, etc..."
Let me know.
Thanks,
TSR
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headuno
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20. June 2007 @ 12:43 |
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Originally posted by tsrps3:
Btw guys, anyone manage to boot PS2 games that are on CD ?
It starts here, i see the PS2 logo, then it comes back to XMB with an error "a problem occured, etc..."
Let me know.
Thanks,
TSR
I get the same error message also. I saw the vid on youtube and i think it was a cd-r back-up being loaded.
Correct me if i'm wrong. If i burned my back-up of DEAD2RIGHTS2 at high speeds and my ps3 didn't read it when i did the switch method, that means it had skip errors when burning right?? Therefore meaning my computer shouldnt read the back-up correctly, right? my computer didn't read thebackup when i tried to make an image off of it. it should mean i burnt it too fast.
I want to see if this is the problem and not the DEVIL MAY CRY TOC issue so that i can try burning it again @ slow speeds.
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tsrps3
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20. June 2007 @ 14:08 |
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yeah if even the PC doesn't recognize the backup disc, seems like you got a coaster. burn at slow speed on GOOD QUALITY DVD-Rs, it makes a lot of difference.
Use a soft like www.IMGBurn.com
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headuno
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20. June 2007 @ 14:50 |
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Originally posted by tsrps3:
yeah if even the PC doesn't recognize the backup disc, seems like you got a coaster. burn at slow speed on GOOD QUALITY DVD-Rs, it makes a lot of difference.
Use a soft like www.IMGBurn.com
Thanks for the info...Burnin now.
Hey, i also made a vid too. Marvel Vs Capcom 2 is the SSSHHH!!!
check it out : http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h122/H...=Movie_0001.flv
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headuno
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20. June 2007 @ 15:28 |
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loglog84
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20. June 2007 @ 16:52 |
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I am on 1.81 US. I loaded the disc like 50 times, no error at all. using 3 switch. but then I only used final fantasy 12 though.
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vegetassj
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20. June 2007 @ 20:12 |
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Originally posted by tsrps3:
Btw guys, anyone manage to boot PS2 games that are on CD ?
It starts here, i see the PS2 logo, then it comes back to XMB with an error "a problem occured, etc..."
Let me know.
Thanks,
TSR
Works for me. What I have is Gameshark2 for PS2, and thats a CD software with blue back. I am able to use that to load backups of PS2 CD games, I tested and it works.
From my tests, its best to load the original, then swap with backup and it should work. But when you are done playing with the backup, don't just swap with ANOTHER BACKUP. Go back to the ORIGINAL and start the swap again. It seems that if I go Original > Backup > Backup it fails on the second backup. You have to do it Original > Backup > Original > Backup.
The way to do that is to hit the eject button on the PS3 itself, so that the PS3 no longer thinks a game is in the drive. And start again by loading a original and swapping with backup.
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Brazilguy
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20. June 2007 @ 21:45 |
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Ok, I just modded, following all the original instructions from Pizzag's post. I did it perfectly, cable cutting, soldering, mounting. It took me some hours. At first I tried with a PS2 CD and the backup CD worked fine. Then I tried with a DVD (original was FFX, backup was Psychonauts), and it said an error ocurred when I tried to enter the backup. Then I tried to boot with a different original DVD (Stuntman) and it didn't even loaded this original. Then I got desperate, and tried to boot with FFX's DVD again (it worked the first time) and it didn't loaded also! As my PS3 is opened, I could see the drive was giving the DVD disc only small spins, but not reading it. When I boot the PS3 with an original PS2 CD it begins spinning and it doesn't stop, it works fine. Then swapping with a backup CD also works fine.
Then I tried booting the PS3 with a Blu-ray (Tony Hawk's Project 8), and it worked fine. Then tried FFX DVD again and nothing. No DVD will load now! Could it be the same problem that happened to SupraGaz?
I live in Brazil, and I don't think it will be easy for me to replace that Blu-ray Drive's little board. I have lots of original PS2 DVDs, and I love playing then on my PS3, since I don't have a PS2. Is my PS3's DVD reading forever lost??? I'm gonna revert the mod now and try to see if my DVDs will start loading. If it does, I'll thank the gods and let the PS3 without the mod!
pS: I'm using firmware 1.80.
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Brazilguy
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20. June 2007 @ 22:41 |
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The worse have happened. DVDs won't work on my PS3.
The only original PS2 CD I have is "Star Wars Racer Revenge", and it works fine.
The only original(of course) PS3 Blu-ray I have is "Tony Hawk Project 8".
But I have 5 original PS2 DVDs, including FFX (95 hours of play, almost ending) and FFX-2 (my girlfriend gave me the original for my birthday the other day, despite the fact that originals are very expensive here in Brazil, because I liked FFX so much.)
So, what the hell do I do??? I have undone the mod, but not the mess. I wanna play my DVDs!!!!!!
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Brazilguy
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20. June 2007 @ 22:53 |
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I'm updating now for 1.81 to see what happens. I bought my PS3 in the US, but maybe Sony here can fix it. Or at least order me a brand new BR-Drive. ($$$$)
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ChokeDYou
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21. June 2007 @ 00:47 |
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Originally posted by tsrps3:
Maybe the problem is due to how one uses the swap method?
Here's mine.
From PS3 in standby, i put the original and load it using the switch "load" position. The PS3 switches ON by itself and loads the original. When the original is shown in the XMB, i always wait about 15 seconds for the laser to be done authenticating. Then i use the switch "eject" position, remove the original and insert backup using the swicht 'load" position. Then I put the switch OFF.
I play the backup, when I'm done I power off the PS3, _then_ use the switch "eject" feature to remove the backup (from switched-off PS3).
At first, I thought the DVD reading part of the laser died. But now if the lasers are intact and it's the board that's actually damage, it doesn't make sense to me anymore because I would assume NOTHING would work anymore if the board is damaged.. but you say it's limited to DVD reading.. hmm
That's exactly how my process is ...EVERY TIME... I play a backup. I have not had a problem with using Devil May Cry and NBA V3 as originals(DVD5) and God Of War original for DVD9. I've switched out a lot of games let me tell ya. :)
Maybe there is a processor or chip of sorts that gets corrupted after reading the wrong type of disc on that board under the BRD ???
Hate to here your having so much trouble SupraGaz
EDIT: Just for the knowledge,
USA 1.10 60gb updated to 1.32 FW
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samhung
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21. June 2007 @ 03:45 |
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This is a mystery.
I'm on 1.81 us and so far no problems.
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SupraGaz
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21. June 2007 @ 07:00 |
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So it isnt just me now that can not load DVD's. Cd'd worked fine and swapped without no problems.
I fixed the PS3 for my friend and warned him to leave the switch method for abit and I returned the system to original functionality. Hopefully a cause myabe found so this method can be used in the future by us again, but for now we'll be leaving it well alone.
Was good while it lasted though.
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Brazilguy
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21. June 2007 @ 07:25 |
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Supragaz, did you bought the BRD Mainboard directly from Sony? And how much did you paid for it? I think the only solution for me will be replacing it also...
Thanks
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SupraGaz
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21. June 2007 @ 08:01 |
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I had another PS3 spare so I could transfer bits over and test to find the problem. I dont know where else you would get one from. Try ebay? I dunno...
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