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Kratos77
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22. February 2008 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I never phrased "piracy". You did Mr. Moderator. I was simply suggesting that they could find it. Which means you could also still buy it. And if someone has a copy of the program. They could install it on there computer and purchase a serial from Nero's site. At least I'm pretty sure you can. I do not condone the use of illegal information to steal anything!!!
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22. February 2008 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will admit. I messed up when I said it wouldn't cost you anything. I guess I mean't anything, but the cost of a serial for Nero. So my bad there, Creaky.
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22. February 2008 @ 19:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
..So we can now get back to this (excellent) movie...






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22. February 2008 @ 22:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dr_ml422:
Originally posted by PacMan777:
I usually keep the DVDFab Platinum updated to the last stable version and if I need a beta to get a particular update, I use the free DVDFab HD Decrypter for bypassing the new copy protection causing the problem. If you're wanting to have both the stable and beta Platinum, try renaming the directory that Platinum resides in before installing the beta version. Adding _1 to the name should suffice. Make sure your shortcut is pointing to the right folder. I've not tried it with Platinum, but I've had multiple versions of other programs set up that way.
oh. i see. so when DVDFab Platinum decides to come out w/a beta, and you want to get it, they add n replace your existing DVDFab Platinum w/the whole program + the beta. has to be that way because if not i'd have to have 2 Platinums. 1 w/the stable version, and another waiting for the beta. i don't have to create another platinum to add the beta right? also how can i keep a copy of my key w/out deleting the 1 they sent me? can i actually make a copy of it, and store it on a cd-r or something in case my hd crashes or something? right now it's on my desktop. thnx.
You can't have two versions of DVDFab Platinum at the same time without renaming the directory (in C:\Program Files) the Platinum is in before installing the second version; beta or whatever. Otherwise the beta or new version overwrites the current installation.


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22. February 2008 @ 22:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i got you pac. just a lil confused. need to brush up on a lot of basic pc stuff. btw i did get to make a copy of my key, and back it up on a dvd-r along w/my other copying/burning apps. thnx.
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23. February 2008 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Basically what I was told about Dvd Fab Platinum is. When they come out with a stable upgrade for the Dvd Fab Platinum. Then it will be updated. But Beta's are a different story. Because The Dvd Fab HD Decrypter's update sometimes twice a month. That means they would have to go through the trouble with updating Dvd Fab Platinum twice a month. So rather then do that. They create Beta's in the mean time so you can at least rip it to your computer using there decrypter. Then use Dvd Fab Platinum to burn it with. But it's usually because of a few movie's that cannot be encoded and burned that Beta Decrypter's are made. After a lot of bugs are worked out and Dvd Fab feels confident that all update's on ripping and encodeing are at it's best. They will create a stable version of Dvd Fab Express Decrypter. And in turn they will also update Dvd Fab Platinum with it as well. It's mainly Sony Arrcos protection that keeps getting updated. So that keeps Dvd Fab HD Decrypter quite busy. But I percieve sometime soon. There should be a slow down on update's on both Sony's and Dvd Fab's corner too. Then again downloading the Dvd Fab Decrypter plus The Dvd Fab Platinum program will not hurt you r PC as long as you don't run them both at the same time. Since both Decrypter and Platinum automatically scan your Dvd for information and quality. Oh by the way @Creaky. Ratatouille was really good. I watched it with my wife and little girl.
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23. February 2008 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is an excellent film, i like the better kids films as much as my girls do :)

I always save each Beta version that comes along along with the official updates, i always install whichever one straight away, haven't had any problems with any Beta versions at all; i only recently gave in and paid for Platinum (have always been more than satisfied with the freebie version); i probably won't use any of Platinum's extra features, just thought it was time i gave something back. As i only rip with Fab i still tend to mostly still use the free version the most



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23. February 2008 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Me too. It to me as not that much more time consuming and it works just as great. No matter what you choose as a program for your burn engine. Dvd Shrink 3.2 and Dvd Fab Express Decrypter have always made a great team. The only time they haven't is when Dvd Fab decrypter needed to be updated which is free and takes no time at all. And by the time I need it. It's usually there at DVDIDLE.com to be gotten.
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23. February 2008 @ 16:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Come to think about it I got all Of DVD Fab Express Decrypters from 2.9.8.3 to 4.0.6.5 Beta saved on my PC just in case of some type of rare error that might occure in a DVD that might support some type of old encoding process to remove the newer Copyright. If that makes any sense. I believe anything is possible.
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27. February 2008 @ 03:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Kratos77:
Basically what I was told about Dvd Fab Platinum is. When they come out with a stable upgrade for the Dvd Fab Platinum. Then it will be updated. But Beta's are a different story.
If you notice, the interface for DVDFab Platinum and DVDFab HD Decrypter are identical except for the name. For DVDFab HD Decrypter, the difference is that controls for DVDFab Platinum have been deactivated so the program can only rip in Full DVD or Movie Only (without compression) as a decrypter. The software used for decryption and bypassing copy protection is the same in both HD Decrypter and Platinum and the transcoding software copies the video files to the HDD without compression. So, if you see a beta for DVDFab HD Decrypter and not one for Platinum, it is still a beta for Platinum. When the bugs are worked out, both programs get updated to stable versions. I've yet to see a new version of Platinum released without a new version of DVDFab HD Decrypter being released at the same time with the same version numbers (since DVDIdle started giving away the free decryption software). DVDIdle could do a beta on Platinum involving the burning software that doesn't involve the decryption software. In such a case there would be no need for a HD Decrypter beta. One could look at all betas for the 2 programs being for Platinum with HD Decrypter benefiting from the decryption software betas and upgrades. That's usually where most of the updating is needed.

I was under the impression DVDIdle did many of those upgrades on an as needed basis and not on a fixed schedule. Some industrious soul can scan the changelogs and let us know how the updates play out over the last several months. I use DVDFab HD Decrypter much more than Platinum, so I don't keep up with how often Platinum has betas.


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Kratos77
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27. February 2008 @ 03:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes I do agree that The Dvd Fab Decrypter's are updated as needed. For an example "
4.0.6.5 Beta (Feb 18, 2008)
- New: Improved compatibility with DVD Shrink for DVDs like "3:10 to Yuma".
- New: Improved DVD structure cleaning module to remove ending fake title-set.
- New: Improved "Jump to main title when disc inserted" to select correct angle
if it's multi-angle title." But I think that for the most part you might have noticed a pattern intentional or not of at least 2 sometimes 3 upgrade's a month thus far. Maybe it's got something to do with Sony Arccos or other encryption's of this sort coming out with new ways to re-inforce copyright on Dvd's at least 2 to 3 times a month. Or most likely it's just a coincidence. However, the point I am simply trying to make is. It would be wise to frequently check for the new Dvd Fab Decrypter update's as much as not to become obsessed with it of course. Simply because it's much better to already have it updated ahead of time, then to make yourself subject to disappointment because the ripping process didn't go as well as you expected it to. Unless in the case of Ratatouille. I had to wait about another week or so after I got it. Before I could back it up. Because the copyright encryption was not anticipated as fast as it usually had been in the past.

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Originally posted by Kratos77:
It would be wise to frequently check for the new Dvd Fab Decrypter update's as much as not to become obsessed with it of course.

It would be easiest to leave check for new version automatically checked in the Common Settings. Then there's no need to worry about missing an update.


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28. February 2008 @ 03:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is true. In combination with this site always giving us the head's up on new update's and all of us pretty much being online every single day. It should be no big thing to stay up on.

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hello,
first of all let me explain this. I speak dutch, my English is OK but sometimes things are tooo technical here to understand. That is why I write this post. I read all of this things in this topic but don't get everything right, I guess.
I tried to rip Rattouille, as well as Ice age 2. And i Got problems...
I ripped the movie with ripit4me, tried to burn with dvd shrink 3.2. I ould write every dvd, but playing it goes wrong. I got a black image at start, and after pushing start I just got parts of menus and movies.
Yesterday I downloaded dvdfab hd decrypter 4.1.0.2, as stated here somewhere. Tried to work on Ratatouille with it, but got the same end-result. I tried ripping movies with ripit4me and dvdshrink before (shrek 3) without any problems at all. I am using the same disks, so this can not be the problem I guess.
Can someone maybe post a simple step to step programm how to get it right please, this would be super !!!
Thank you very much !!
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15. March 2008 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, it's really simple, just use DVDFab to rip the movie (full disc or main movie mode), then if the movie is still to large to fit on a blank dvdjust use DVD Shrink to shrink it. I can't remember if main movie mode results in a small enough set of files or not..
..or is the problem only with the burning stage (ie you think you've done the ripping stage correctly?)



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If you've done this before and had success and nothing has changed, then something is wrong with your software or the burner itself is going bad. Have you tried simply rebooting your pc? How old is your burner? Is it's firmware up to date? You should have no trouble ripping the movie with DVD Fab and then letting shrink do it's thing as Creaky says.


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I tried something else. I ran Ratatouilee with dvd fab (movie mode) and then tried to burn it with Imgburn? Although Imgburn said my disc was not big enough for all data, I took a shot. Move was fine, playable with all languages but as ewpectes just did not fit on the dvd, I just got 80 % of it. Now I am convinced my ripping went ok. I used DVD shrink then. Movie was copied as it should, but dvd starts somewhere in the middle of the movie....
My burner is something like 4 months old, so don't think problem is here. Maybe something is wrong with dvvd shrink, or/and Nero ??
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Move was fine, playable with all languages but as ewpectes just did not fit on the dvd, I just got 80 % of it.
How can you say the movie was fine with only 80% of it? Sounds like shrink did not do it's job. I would uninstall shrink and then reinstall from a fresh download. Then see if you get same message that data won't fit blank.


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16. March 2008 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, I'll try and let you know.
How can I say the disk was fine with 80 % ? The burning progress stopped at 80 %, Imgbrn finished the disk and I viewed the disk for those 80 % and so I know it is OK...
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16. March 2008 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1st Let me say thanx to everyone who has chimed in to give their solutions and trials.

I was at this disc for almost a week trying everything under the sun and in it. (I'll spare details)
What ended up working for me was DVDfab HD decrypter >NeroRecode

I use recode for most of my stuff w/DVD43 but every solution seemed to be getting stuck in VTS-6 (Main movie) which seems to be where the protection is.
I ended up needing patience because DVDfab HD needed about 6 hrs to get through that 1 vts and I Left it alone while doing so. Although it looked like it was stuck, it was actually processing it VERY SLOWLY. The result was it doing it successfully and then recode doing the rest.

Again, thanx to everyone who stuck it out on this one.
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Originally posted by RoyalTee:
I ended up needing patience because DVDfab HD needed about 6 hrs to get through that 1 vts and I Left it alone while doing so. Although it looked like it was stuck, it was actually processing it VERY SLOWLY.
that's not good, look in DVDfab's settings for checking and then resetting DMA, it sounds like one or more of your drives has slipped from DMA to PIO mode..



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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by RoyalTee:
I ended up needing patience because DVDfab HD needed about 6 hrs to get through that 1 vts and I Left it alone while doing so. Although it looked like it was stuck, it was actually processing it VERY SLOWLY.
that's not good, look in DVDfab's settings for checking and then resetting DMA, it sounds like one or more of your drives has slipped from DMA to PIO mode..

It's still on DMA (Ultra DMA Mode-2). It was only slowed down on that 1 VTS. The rest of the DVD went normal speed. Once I saw it creep up a percentage or 2 I said screw it, let me ride it out and see what happens. To my surprise it finished successfully.

I've backed up DVD's for years and this is the 1st time this has happened which leads me to believe it was the protection in the that VTS (Main Movie).
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17. March 2008 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The thing is though, DVDFab caters for this movie fine and has done for a while (is Fab fairly up to date?), there's no reason for Fab to take 6 hours, something's not quite right on your PC somewhere.



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Hi and welcome. 6 hours? Definitely something wrong. Either the disc you had was a lil nicked up and your burner/reader is a lil sensitive to nicks or you're simply not following the suggested steps as outlined here in about 10 different ways. Dvdfab was specifically updated 4 this flic way back when it came across the issues.

I had a similar problem w/another disc and decided to not waste anymore time trying to put it through my 2 sammys. It wasn't protected so my common sense which isn't too common anymore told me to throw it into my standalone and bingo, it went through like a charm and my Toshiba recorder recorded it. Real time though but I learned a valuable lesson. Don't get too hung up w/just 1 flic. Rule out all possible problems, hardware or software, and try to read the proven methods posted here that have worked for all of us. I get OCD once in a while myself. Obsessive Computer disorder. Lol... You'll be ok.
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marino64
What version of Nero are you using? Did you try burning the files compressed by DVD Shrink using ImgBurn instead of Nero?


 
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