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23. September 2005 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know it is a 2 layer disk that has a main title of 2 hr and 10 minutes with 47% compression which just does not make any sense to me, unless there is something else going on with this video. When I did Pirates of the Caribbean it was somewhere like 2 hrs and 20 some minutes and only came out to 74%.


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23. September 2005 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you sure? Recheck the POTC DVD compression level with the same software you're using for the DVD you're wanting to encode now.

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23. September 2005 @ 16:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm!

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Wrong!

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Different movies can have different levels of compression for the same length of time so the compression levels for encoding will vary.
DVDrebuilder should do fine at this level.

Brobear,
The timings referred to previously: "AMD CAS 2-2-2-5 while putting CAS 3-3-3-8 in the P4 board" were for DDR2 on the P4 which is faster with looser timings. This is not unusual. The P4 actually had 533 to the 400 of the AMD.





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Donald
In case you missed it the first time, the Intel-AMD discussion has been disccontinued on this thread. It's moved into an irrelevant stage at this point. We know faster processors equal faster encodes.
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If you want to talk Intel vs AMD, go here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/235934 . I started a thread in the Hardware section for you.



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From that screen capture, the total size comes to less than 4.3GB, unless there is something you didn't show us. That means it wouldn't need to be compressed at all.

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I didn't miss it. Just responding breifly to a comment as everyone else has.

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23. September 2005 @ 21:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hitch Hikers guide is still a Mystery.

For those of you that are hardware challenged I'm going to make myself available to you so that you don't look foolish.

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Hmmm? For the hardware biased? Seems I remember someone whose dream machine not long ago was a dual Intel Xeon processor and not an AMD. ;) And the Hardware section would be the perfect place for an open discussion on the topic, wouldn't it? ;)

How bout that Hitch Hikers guide? LOL

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The ripped file was 7.7g and had 7 VOB files. I went ahead and used RB it showed compression at 54.9%. Did a two pass and it came out pretty good, could still see some noise in the background on some scenes.


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Things can vary, but I've had little trouble with background noise on DVDs in the 8GB range. Was there any background "noise" in the original? Also, what kind of "noise" was it? I just backed up an old version of Conan and it was 7.82GB (ripped), it came out excellent.

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What I see is a grainy appearance in the background. However, this video is part documentary and part dance video. The older clips that are incorporated are probably not all digital. Lot of them were shot in lowlight onto concert stages. The later dated clips come up perfect. So in this case it is the source video. RB did a good job with what it had and I have no complaints. Completed it in 137 minutes which is a good time. I know you can use the AvsEditor to the UnDot.dll but I have not gotten it to work, I do not think I am putting in the correct path, but I will keep experimenting with it.


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24. September 2005 @ 06:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
arniebear

Try undot on movies that have noise, it can clean some of it up.

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There has been some minor questioning about the encode speeds that I've recently posted using my new machine. As we all know clock speed is the only benefit that Intel has over AMD, and even then its not that significant. If one can produce an AMD system that can come close to Intel's clock speed then Intel really hasn't any advantages left. AMD is better at just about everything else.


Encoders are among those few applications that benefits from Intel's clock speeds. But! What if AMD can approach Intel on its strengths, While leaving Intel behind on AMD's strengths? This has been my thesis and direction for building my latest PC. I think that if Intel doesn't get with the game, it's going to fall behind AMD in a major way.

To support my speed gains I did an encode of a fairly large DVD and I'm providing screen captures that are difficult to doctor.


The movie and DVD Decrypter.







RB after the movie was encoded.



Sorry I was seeing the image so I didn't know that others couldn't. Let me know if this works!

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@ sophocles

can you check your pics?
the links seem broken


@ arniebear

i prefer undot + fluxsmooth for noisy sources

cf. here: http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54372

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If you don't see the image then let me know.

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@UncasMS

Thanks for the link, will try out those filters.

@Sophocles

Thank you for the advice given on the other forum in regard to the AviSynth version I was using. I had the 2.56 from AD but downloaded the 2.54 put that in and tried HC again and it came out perfect, no lines no unplayable disk. That was the problem all along.


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24. September 2005 @ 15:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Arniebear

Glad to hear that you've worked it out.

What forum was it?

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24. September 2005 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe I was at DVD Rip, could have been Hounds it was a frustrating night when I did it. But no matter you gave out sound advice and it worked. Again thanks :)


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24. September 2005 @ 15:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's enough, and it's knowing that something worked that makes it all worthwhile and a learning experienced.

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There has been some minor questioning about the encode speeds that I've recently posted using my new machine.
Where and who? All I've seen is a sales pitch for AMD. ;)

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Where and who? All I've seen is a sales pitch for AMD. ;)
Since I'm not making any money from this, and I am telling the truth, exactly what is it that I'm selling for profit?

That was an unkind statement, it suggests that I have a monetary gain from winning this debate.

Genuine debates depend on the discovery of what's true, I only posted what I can prove to be true.

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24. September 2005 @ 16:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The truth caried forward.

There has been some minor questioning about the encode speeds that I've recently posted using my new machine. As we all know clock speed is the only benefit that Intel has over AMD, and even then its not that significant. If one can produce an AMD system that can come close to Intel's clock speed then Intel really hasn't any advantages left. AMD is better at just about everything else.


Encoders are among those few applications that benefits from Intel's clock speeds. But! What if AMD can approach Intel on its strengths, While leaving Intel behind on AMD's strengths? This has been my thesis and direction for building my latest PC. I think that if Intel doesn't get with the game, it's going to fall behind AMD in a major way.

To support my speed gains I did an encode of a fairly large DVD and I'm providing screen captures that are difficult to doctor.


The movie and DVD Decrypter.







RB after the movie was encoded.



Sorry I was seeing the image so I didn't know that others couldn't. Let me know if this works!

"Please Read!!! Post your questions only in This Thread or they will go unanswered:

Help with development of BD RB: Donations at: http://www.jdobbs.com/
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. September 2005 @ 17:02

 
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