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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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jdobbs
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18. August 2005 @ 04:27 |
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Most of the time it it just the opposite. The files existed on the original (empty there too) and DVD-RB is just making sure it is identical as much as possible. So Nero is reporting a compliance problem with something that was mastered on the original. I could easily delete those files and make Nero's message go away -- but I don't think it is a good idea.
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brobear
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18. August 2005 @ 04:36 |
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The few times it happened, it was pretty much as jdobbs pointed out. The questionable structure came from the source. RB just encoded what was there. It's also strange you're getting so many compliance warnings. That comes to about 25 out of 100 backups having some sort of compliance differences from the norm. Even with the newer encryptions, there aren't that many DVDs with the structural encryption to be causing so many problems. I use CopyToDVD a lot and it is more sensitive to compliance requirements than Nero. Besides my classics collection I have a lot of the new movies I've purchased backed up as well. So, if there was that much of a situation with compliance warnings, I'm sure I'd have noticed.
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brobear
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18. August 2005 @ 05:56 |
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@jdobbs
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Do you mean just call them directly the way DVD-RB calls DVD Decrypter with ISO files?
Guess so.
Excuse me, I don't normally use the ISO file mode, so I hadn't paid attention to the Decrypter being supported as a burner. Is there any chance of getting CopyToDVD as a supported burner to burn the Video_TS output for those of us who use File mode? If you do it, you may need to add Nero as the Nero fans would feel slighted.
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VJbob
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19. August 2005 @ 21:35 |
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ok so I was completing a batch processing while listening to winamp, transferring stuff to different hard drives, using bittorrent and I just played my finished product and the DVD I was encoding at the time came out like crap. I guess that seems to be a lesson learned and I have 1.25 GB of RAM. From now on only batch processing at night when nobody uses the computer. Has this happened to anyone else?
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64026402
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20. August 2005 @ 04:21 |
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If you can repeat the encode without interference and get normal quality then you don't have the resources to multitask while encoding. Processor power is the weakest link.
Even with a fast processor it is best to leave the machine alone during encodes.
The new Athlon 64 processors seem extra fast at encoding with CCE. 100 minutes per movie average for the big ones at 2.5 ghz. Sophocles was getting a lot of his movies into the 70 minute range. This could reduce to time spent for a reasonable cost.
Donald
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striker27
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21. August 2005 @ 03:26 |
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Hi i am using DVD-RB V0.93 with CCE SP, i have been having problems with the output files. Whenever i try to encode a DVD that is larger than 7.4GB the end product after using DVD-RB is always 4.44GB which cannot be burnt because it is too large. This has happened on 3 movies so far and all are over 7.4GB, can anyone help me with this??
I never use to have this problem using earlier versions of the software.
Here is the rebuilder.ini file contents.
[Options]
SkinVersion=3
Skin=Rockas Original
CCE=1
QuEncHQ=1
ReduceOpt=3
Mode=1
HalfD1=00000
Convert_16_9=00000
DisableInterlace=00000
OneClick=1
Completed=1
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Cinema Craft Encoder SP v2.67.00.27\cctsp.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\Striker\My Documents\Apps\DVDrebuilder9\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\STRIKER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVDMOVIES\TAXI\
Working=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\STRIKER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVDMOVIES_COMPLETED\TAXI\
Output=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\STRIKER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVDMOVIES_COMPLETED\TAXI\
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=4
[Audio]
Selected=10111
[Subpictures]
Selected=101111
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64026402
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21. August 2005 @ 05:35 |
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I would recomend the pro version since I haven't had any size problems but you can also add a line to your options area to modify the size a little. It looks pretty close to normal.
Like this.
[Options]
SkinVersion=3
Skin=Rockas Original
CCETargetSectors=2240000
Donald
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qwik4a6
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21. August 2005 @ 06:36 |
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quick question,
When RB states the % quality of the movie during phase 2. Does that mean the % reduction or the % the movie was reduced to that of the original?
Example: 52%.....from a 100 meaning 48 or does that mean 52% or the source period....
Thanks
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Calibum
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21. August 2005 @ 08:31 |
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I also had a question about the final sizing of the output. I have been experimenting with the TargetSectors option in the Rebuilder.ini file. It states that the largest a DVD5 can be is 2297888 and the defult for DVD-RB is 2236400. I modified that option for a backup to be about half-way between the two and got a sizing of 4.713GB. I then dropped the TargetSectors another 5% and got the same size. Dropped it another 5%, same thing again. How exactly does that setting work? Isn't that setting supposed to have a direct correlation to the total output size. I was also using 4 passes on each run just to make sure.
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qwik4a6
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21. August 2005 @ 09:14 |
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Movie issue....
"Kung Fu Hustle"
Hangs 84.7% of the way through phase 2. Tried several times and hangs at the same point every time.
So far this is the only movie, I've had an issue with using RB.
What could be the problem? I used DVD Decrpt along with AnyDVD running in the background to remove all possibilites.....
Could this be a new form of encryption?
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jdobbs
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21. August 2005 @ 10:44 |
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The most likely cause is a system that has stability problems. CCE is especially sensitive to overclocking. The second most likely cause would be the use of AVISYNTH v2.5.6 -- that package is still in testing status and is not ready for primetime. Anyone using DVD-RGB should stick with the only currently "approved" version of 2.5.5/
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jdobbs
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21. August 2005 @ 10:46 |
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I also had a question about the final sizing of the output. I have been experimenting with the TargetSectors option in the Rebuilder.ini file. It states that the largest a DVD5 can be is 2297888 and the defult for DVD-RB is 2236400. I modified that option for a backup to be about half-way between the two and got a sizing of 4.713GB. I then dropped the TargetSectors another 5% and got the same size. Dropped it another 5%, same thing again. How exactly does that setting work? Isn't that setting supposed to have a direct correlation to the total output size. I was also using 4 passes on each run just to make sure.
You are probably using OPV. OPV can only predict to the nearest Q factor -- which would size the same throughout a range.
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qwik4a6
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21. August 2005 @ 12:18 |
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Jdobbs,
In regards to your reply for my "Kung fu hustle" problem, why would other backups that I tried after the fail of KFH, still work without any issues.
Seem to me that is was an issue with RB and that specific movie.
I'm sure I'm using avisynth 2.5.
And I haven't OC'ed.
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64026402
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21. August 2005 @ 16:00 |
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qwik4a6
I just finished a bachup of KungFu Hustle with DVDrebuilder Pro with no problems. So rebuilder is unlikely to be a problem. I used 1.0 Rc5.
Does it stop at the rebuild phase or during CCE.
Donald
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qwik4a6
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21. August 2005 @ 16:26 |
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It stopped during phase 2 (CCE)....at the same part 3 times.
I un-installed avsynth and reinstalled a fresh version. I'm in the process of RB Kung fu hustle now. I will report back with my results.
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jdobbs
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21. August 2005 @ 17:01 |
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In regards to your reply for my "Kung fu hustle" problem, why would other backups that I tried after the fail of KFH, still work without any issues.
Seem to me that is was an issue with RB and that specific movie.
I'm sure I'm using avisynth 2.5
But CCE is running when it stops, right? By "2.5" to you mean "2.5.5"? Because the problem version is also "2.5" -- it is "2.5.6".
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qwik4a6
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21. August 2005 @ 17:07 |
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Ok,
This was my 4 go at it. I reinstalled Avisynth 2.55 ( I was using the right version but reinstalled it anyway.)
It stopped once gain at 84.7%.
"creating MV2 for VTS_04 segment 1"
This is the path....C:\KUNG FU RB\D2VAVS\V04000100001002.m2v
It completely stops.
I have to abort in order to shut down RB.
It's weird because it only is doing this for this particular movie.
I'm going to see if I can delete the VTS_04 segment completely, since I think it's an extra.
I've also notice that the program is hung but still runing, the cpu temps are as if it's still under load even though it isn't doing anything....
well here goes...
I'm going to delete the segement and try again.
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64026402
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21. August 2005 @ 20:15 |
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What version of Rebuilder are you using and what are the system specs.
Donald
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qwik4a6
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22. August 2005 @ 04:10 |
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RB version .93
Athlon 64 3000+
1 gig RM
6800GT
160 GB HD....
Antec truepower 430
NEC DVDRW
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brobear
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22. August 2005 @ 04:42 |
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How large is the source file you have for input and how much free space is left on the hard drive? Do you have the output set for an ISO file?
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qwik4a6
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22. August 2005 @ 04:45 |
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I'm thinking this be some new kind of encryption. I tried for the 4th time last night and I removed the VTS_4 files and it hung at the next VTS files.
I also gave nero recode 2 a shot at it, and it completed it without any problems in the log file, I went to play the movie and the previews and menus were in tact, however when trying to play the main movie, it shut down the player. I then fooled around and was able to get the movie to play but have no idea how. I couldn't get it to play again. Every menu option would fail even though I copied the entire disk.
I then used CloneDVD2 and it worked but the movie came out somewhat poor quality with some hitching.
Can't do ISO, I think only the pro version has that option.
If I run anydvd in the background and then rip with decrypter, The DVD should be ripped without any copy protection? Even if decrypter fails to catch something, anydvd should pick it up since both are running correct?
I still don't know why RB can't finish, it's the only movie that has giving me problems.
I have over 200 gigs of free space.
Can't do ISO, I think only the pro version has that option.
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brobear
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22. August 2005 @ 05:52 |
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You mentioned a 160 GB hard drive, glad it's growing. I inquired about the size as it takes a lot of space for RB to work. Even with large hard drives some people have a tendency to use them up. I know I use a lot of space backing up movies and waiting to do the burns later. With RB, you need about 2 or more times the source size to do a backup, depending on the encoder. Then there's the space needed for the system to operate. May not be a problem, but worthy of note at this point. ISO just adds to the space requirements is why I asked. I keep forgetting everyone doesn't have all the nice options included in RB Pro.
If clonedvd2 did the transcode, then that seems to indicate a problem with the RB/CCE setup. After all, you had to decrypt the DVD for this app to work. I still wonder about some of those SP trials. AnyDVD is kept up to date and I've not heard of any new encryptions that are giving problems at present (then I don't catch everything). I heard the heavy encryption is still being developed for use with the newer high definition DVDs.
RB only encodes what is fed into it using the encoder of choice that is supported. DVD Decrypter is a good ripper and I've used it on numerous occasions with AnyDVD. To date the backups have been excellent. Though Kung Fu Hustle isn't something I'd normally watch, I'll pick it up for the kids and give it a go to see if I can recreate the problem you're having. Since there hasn't been a lot of posts on problems with KFH, I suspect you have a problem in your setup. You may want to splurge and buy the retail version of CCE Basic. Though it doesn't do quite as well as SP, it's over $1900 less expensive. Then there's the HC encoder that is free; that may just be with the Pro. But then a donation for the Pro is most reasonable and you can get a complete setup using RB/HC.
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qwik4a6
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22. August 2005 @ 06:02 |
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brobear,
Thanks for the advice.
I am going to re-install both RB and CCE later today.
If it's only this movie that is giving me a problem, then I won't worry to much, I will be backing up a few more movies later this week.
The thing is, CloneDVD2 did work but it wasn't pretty (stuttering), and Nero recode 2 had a go at it and it wouldn't play(menus were all screwed up). Who knows.....that's why I'm thinking it's not RB but the disk giving me grief.
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brobear
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22. August 2005 @ 06:32 |
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Did you run a check on the original source DVD with something like DVDInfoPro to check for read/write errors? Not all discs are top quality; sometimes you get a bad press (that can still play in a standalone) or a surface blem that can affect the read. I checked around and it seems the DVD KFH has the Sony ARccOS and bad sector encryption. AnyDVD has no problem handling these. Some members said they did this DVD by just using DVD Decrypter alone to rip the files, various transcoders, encoders, and burners were used. The key to using any encoder or transcoder is in getting a good clean source for input. It just boils down to "problem in, problem out" in a lot of cases.
If your reinstall doesn't help, I'd suggest trying another disc, just return the one you have and tell the store you had a problem with it (and you have, just don't add you were doing a backup). Out of curiosity, what does DVDInfoPro show when you check the DVD? I'd try checking the DVD and possibly using another before doing the reinstall. It could just be a problematic disc.
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qwik4a6
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22. August 2005 @ 07:33 |
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brobear,
I think that's what I will do. I will post back with the results. probably later this week. Once I can get to the store to do an exhange.
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