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ajavu
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1. December 2005 @ 03:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i did some more tinkering last night before reading your message and had tried the line 2 option. the screen is full of diagonal moving high contrast patterns, but no real image and no start up image or response from the set-up button on the remote. do have the right cables and colors match from output on player to input on tv. also, did the coax from player to tv and from attenae to dvd player..

i know someone who has the ilo with the hard drive who said his worked fine this way. if you have other advice, i am listening....

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prgwitch
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4. December 2005 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone come across this problem?

The unit (DVR05/MU) reports "No Disc" when I enter in blank DVDs. These are Maxell DVD+R blank DVDs. I have gone through two different batches of Maxell DVD+R DVDs purchased at my local Walmart. I can insert blank DVDs one after another without the unit giving me the "Format" option. After I've insert disc after disc I will "sometimes" (as in very rarely) get the "Format" screen. After that the unit preforms its record functions normally. I've inserted in other media (DVDs, CDs) into the unit and play back works fine. It just will not read blank media.

Any suggestions? I've e-mailed iLo support (www.iloservice.com), but have yet to hear back from them.

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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. December 2005 @ 11:31

wlstck
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4. December 2005 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Even though ILO says it uses DVD+ it really uses DVD-. I bought both and only the DVD- works. I don't know why the hand book has + in it. If I had it to do over I WOULD HAVE NEVER bought an ILO. I would have waited until I had a little more money and got a better machine. Luckly it's not my only dvd recorder.
wlstck
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4. December 2005 @ 22:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also with an ILO I have been having trouble with it recording a dvd. I will play it a few minutes and everything is fine. Then I will finalize the disc and all at once the machine tells me I have a blank disc or one that it doesn't recoginize. This happened with quiet a few of blank Verbatim discs. So I bought some Sonys and it did the same thing. I'm throwing away a lot of disc these days. But it's not just that. It's wasting the time recording then to find out it's no good. I should have known better than buying anything Walmart puts out. I have an Emerson and only occasionally do I have a disc that won't play after recording. I'm serously thinking of using the ILO simply as a player and buying another dvd recorder with a name brand. Now I think there may be something to buying name brands after fooling with this ILO.
prgwitch
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5. December 2005 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just received this response from iLo support:
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Dear Customer,

We do not recommend using Memorex, Maxell, TDK, or Ilo disk! Please also
do not use DVD-R/RW disks, these disks are not compatible with our DVD
recorders. However you may record with DVD+R/RW disks, these are best to
operate with our DVD recorders. Please verify that your other DVD player
is able to playback DVD+R/RW disc and that the brand you are buying is
compatible with your other DVD player or not.If you go to the "setup" menu,
then go to the "help" menu there is a list of compatible media. Such as
Sony, Fuji, Verbatim, HP, etc... A firmware update is recommended,
download both updates and burn them on to two separate disk as image
files. Load into the ilo unit and it should say update on the front of the
unit, on the screen it will ask if you really want to update press "yes",
it will take about two minutes to update. When it is finished it should say
successful.

Thank You,

ilo Customer Service
I guess they only want me to use SONY discs, because that is all that is left on the shelf at Walmart when you exclude Memorex, Maxell, TDK, or Ilo.

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prgwitch
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8. December 2005 @ 06:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since the support people took so long to reply I reposted my question using a different e-mail address and got back the EXACT same e-mail.


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wlstck
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8. December 2005 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know why ILO says to use +'s. I tried them twice and they won't record. It simply formats them and then doesn't recognize them. I have to use DVD-R's and have found that only the major brands will work. No Verbatium or other off brands. Then I still have about every other one not recognized after recording. I firmly believe ILO is a piece of garbage. I wish I had never bought one now that I've had time to use it. Stay away and spend the few extra dollars for a name brand.
unixdude
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9. December 2005 @ 04:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wlstck, I think you have a defective unit. I've had my DVDR04 for many months, and it works flawlessly. I use the cheapest, no-name DVD+R and DVD+RW media from a local computer store. I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with your particular unit, but that doesn't mean that the whole product line is bad. Besides, Guitarman's f/w hacks are the bomb, man!

Jim Turner
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prgwitch
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9. December 2005 @ 05:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I made this discovery last night. If I leave the unit on for a few hours before I use it, it will more likely read the blank discs. (And these are the Maxell DVD+R)

Is there a warm up time associated with the DVDR05?

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tattooman
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12. December 2005 @ 14:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Help, I need some heads up.I need a DVD recorder to record cable tv from the hard drive on the cable company's DVR I rent. I ordered a r05 from Walmart last nite but then found this thread and thought I better try to find a r04. The only one I could find was the display at wally world so I bought it,however it didnt have a remote so I ended up with a r05 remote and manual. Witchever unit I keep will not be used as a tuner or a playback machine. What do you think? Thanks.
tattooman
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12. December 2005 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did some more checking and found that I can probably get a new remote from ILO. I just have to figure out witch one to keep.
motorcycl
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12. December 2005 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone had this probem? My ilo R04 was working fine one day. I set it up to record something. The next day I went back to change the disk and set it up again. When I turned it on the Hello came up, and that is all it would do. It just kept saying Hello, but it wouldn't do any thing else. It would not eject the disk that was in it. Would not turn off, would not play. I unpluged it for a while, but it done the same thing when I turned it back on. It appears to be hung on Hello. I think it has Crapped out. Anyone got an idea how to correct this problem?
Has anyone had one of these that lasted more than a few months. Anyone got an R05 that they are pleased with?

Thanks for your time.

wlstck
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12. December 2005 @ 19:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've had that happen. The only thing I can say is leave it unpluged for along time and when it comes on press the eject button. This machine still has a lot of bugs in it. It should have never been put on the market. as I've said before I also have an Emerson and it is no problem at all.
2confuzed
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15. December 2005 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thought I would toss my experience in here.
At first I only played movies, then I got brave and tried to record some. I got recordings that had lousy sound for the first 20 minutes, so I hooked other wires up to it, the STV or what ever it's called that I found out is just for video only doesn't carry any sound, it worked best as soon as I hooked up audio for it. Then it got a really interesting problem. I could record just fine, good sound good picture, I would play each one before finalizing to check how it was.
But then, get this, as soon as I finalized the disk and took it out, it wouldn't play again, it gave me a failed disk message, BUT they will play in my other players and in my computer DVD drive, go figure.
That went on for about a week, I was making recordings from my DVR, a series off the history channel and some movies, I got one done pressed the OSM button, the screen went black, the OSM menu showed only the words against the black screen so I pressed it again and I got an all black sreen, the front panel said HELLO and that was that, it won't open, it won't do anything.
I contacted the web page after the second try they said send us a copy of the store reciept, model number serial number etc. and of course after 6 months of owning it I can't find the receipt, it's lost in the pile somewhere around here, hiding out I think with the lost socks from the dryer, either that or they are holding it captive, according to the serial number it's too old, by about 5 weeks, I guess that's why it was on sale for so cheap, it must have been hanging around the store too way long. I think I'll buy a different brand, maybe with a VCR built in so I can copy all the tapes I have, and of course as soon as I do that reciept will fall out of the cob webs, or is it the socks will throw it out having had all their fun.
Well that's my story about these ilo DVD recorders
wlstck
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15. December 2005 @ 20:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I finally took my ILO back to Walmart tonight and they gave me my money back. I then bought a CyberHome DVR 1200 whick is actually an ILO I think. I haven't used it yet but am about to try it. If it doesn't please me I'm getting my money back and going to a major name brand. As I've said before I have an Emerson that records and plays fine.
waarichtj
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16. December 2005 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I went through three of them. Just take a look at these forums.
#1. dvd recorders are not as forgiving as vcr's.
#2. many people simply do not understand them
#3. media(blank dvd's) is another question,it is very unpredictable.
#4. everyone is an expert, when the answer is,the manufacturers
are giving us junk, equipment that does not work as it is
designed to.
#5. your tv does not require patches so why should a dvd recorder!
unixdude
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16. December 2005 @ 12:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your TV doesn't have an operating system. Your set-top DVD recorder does. Embedded Linux if I had to guess. Be glad it's not Microsloth Winblows!

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LamiaNY
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16. December 2005 @ 21:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I purchased an ilo DVDR05ZU recorder. Nowhere in the booklet does it tell you what X DVD to use. I started off with DVD+R 16X..Well that was a mistake, I ended up with more frizbies then I wanted. I went to ilo website and looked up their FAQ, and I came across info on using 4X or 8X but reccomends 4X DVD+R and RW+...well the 8X didn't work either. But guess what did work and works every time? DVD-R 1-16X. And they play in all my other DVD players. Why do they tell you to use DVD+R and DVD+RW if DVD-R works? Will it do any damage to my recorder using them? Should I continue to use them if they work fine?
Jweiler3
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17. December 2005 @ 23:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I also have the ILO dvdr04 ,I bought it 2 months ago and up till recently it was working great , but lately ,its not seeing disc's , , getting errors , bad disc , no disc , data , fail , file , ect , & i am useing the same media , since when i purchased DVD+R for this unit they were on sale & i bought Bulk , so still the same , , Also when it does see a disc , I record my shows as normal , however it stopped finallizing them , when i goto finalize it goes for long time , then gives errors and ejects , & also when recording & I hit stop , it takes ALONG time to stop , I dunno whats up , it still plays dvd's just fine , , so I did clean the lens , just because i could & i did the latest firmware updates , & thhe unit s not running hot cause I have a big box fn running on it , now your wondering why the box fan , simple my cable box is right next to the ILO & the cable box overheats , henc forth the fan,, either way if anyone knows whats going on I'd appreciate it.Thanks
motorcycl
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18. December 2005 @ 19:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Jweiler3,
It's sick. It will soon die. Take it back to Walmart so they can shoot it, and get you another one. If the replacement even coughs or sneezes before three months, take it back and get another one, and continue to do this until you get a good one. You can try switching to another brand, but it probably won't be much better. I have tried several differend ones, from $100.00 to $300.00 and they are all the same. Very temper mental, and Very short lived. They are kind of like most computers; they never go for very long without having problems. Just part of it. They will never be as reliable as the VCR, and the DVD Disk wont ever be as durable as the VHS Tape.
I love the technology, but I hate all the problems that go along with it.

Good Luck?.motorcycl


wlstck
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18. December 2005 @ 20:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got sick and tired of my ILO not recognizing discs so I finally took it back to Walmart and got a CyberHome which has tobe made by ILO as they look so much alike. I also got back $20 to boot. So far I have recorded 6 movies and all have finalized and are recognized. And to top it off I tried one of my many DVD-R's and it recorded on it as well as a plus. That's not to say that by the time I have recorded the 10th movie it won't screw up. But like the guy above said I will take it back and take it back until they make it good.
elainep
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21. December 2005 @ 09:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anybody know how to contact the ilo dvd player company,I looked them up on the web but the ilo company said it does not make the ilo recorders sold from walmart. I am homebound and it is hard for me to take things back alreay did it once and had the same problem, I live alone, I canot keep going back, I need to find the company I might have wasted my money but I would at least like to tell them what I think of them and get it off my chest,don't know about anybody else but 100.00 just does not grow on trees in my house,not to mention all the packs of dvds I bought and were wasted on that thing. I do most of my shopping on the net but it is too expensive to ship back all the time.
wlstck
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21. December 2005 @ 19:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try CyberHome. I had an ILO and returned it for a Cyberhome and the are identical. Handbook, remote and machine.
kfkundell
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23. December 2005 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Folks,
I purchased an ilo about a year ago from my local walmart. I had some lockup problems when editing at first. I did a firmware upgrade with the "hacked" version that allows the 3 hr record time. I have had no problems at all with this unit. I use cheap DVD+R whatever I can find on sale. A friend of mine also purchased one. He has had endless problems with the drive door nor opening. In frustration he sold it to me cheap and he is buying a name brand unit at twice the price. I now have the unit and the drive does not open! I opened the cover and removed top plate from the dvd drive. Sometimes it works as long as the disk doesn't fly off when I press eject. I have read this forum for the last year and now understand how some people can have a great unit and others a dog! I have both now. Has anyone else had the problem with the drive door not wanting to open? I am hoping it is a firmware issue or something fixable. Thanks everyone
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mikelb
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27. December 2005 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello, I have a DVDRH04 and it use to work great (until November). It is now constantly locking up while writing or finalizing a DVD?s. I have updated to the latest and greatest FW but have not reset the system and wiped the drive yet. I hooked up the HDD to my PC to save the movies before wiping it. I am not able to play any movies from the DVD drive.

I am under the impression that most of my problems are with the DDW-451S DVD drive. Has any one tried to replace it with a better drive? I am thinking about putting in a 16x DVD +/- into it but I am not sure if doing so would create a compatible issue. Any suggestions?

I am also looking into putting in a larger HDD. Anybody know what the max size it will handle?

Thanks All
 
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