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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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4. November 2008 @ 13:14 |
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Yeah well, we all make mistakes like that, myself included. Don't beat yourself up about it... :)
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4. November 2008 @ 16:55 |
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4. November 2008 @ 17:18 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Good to know, I'm buying them shortly :)
Mind posting the link to that deal for the americans out there? I don't see it.
Me, I'll be spending somewhat more than $24. £85 in fact.
Here you go Sam.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145043
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Russ
Good grief sammy. :P You could find someone to buy them here (USA) and then send them to you cross Atlantic freight and still pay LESS than 1/2 what you're paying now!!! Seems a bit crappy to me. :(
RedRob it seems that you have some different/difficult luck when it comes to RAM and your system. lol. Try some Mushkin... DOCTOR recommended. :D
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4. November 2008 @ 17:30 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
oh yea crucical is out the door for me. KEY WORD ME. I will never buy them again.
gonna look into some Mushkin,OCZ, Corsair.
Give these links a look see. I'm sure that you already have but I thought I would narrow down some choices for you as NOT to overload your already taxed brain. :)
2x1GB 1066 RAM
2x2GB 800 RAM
There are more choices than this of course but I wouldn't have any issues picking one of these for my Quad or C2D. :)
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4. November 2008 @ 18:20 |
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Good memory performance is important for input and output because it feeds in and out of the FrontSide bus and when slowed can prove to be a serious bottleneck to your processors. Below is my memory performance.
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4. November 2008 @ 19:10 |
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To clarify that statement a bit further, memory bandwidth hurts your CPU's raw arithmetic performance, so it will impact times for instance in video encoding, but the speed of the CPU for most real-world applications is completely unaffected by RAM, as a lot of benchmarks will demonstrate, so DVD encoders, make sure you have good RAM, gamers really don't need to be concerned.
Also, my RAM is expensive as I'm getting 2x2GB of PC8500C5, not 2x1GB, or lower speed stuff.
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4. November 2008 @ 20:15 |
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I bought my 2x2GB Corsair Dominators PC2-8500 with the fans for 70 bucks a few months back.
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4. November 2008 @ 23:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Also, my RAM is expensive as I'm getting 2x2GB of PC8500C5, not 2x1GB, or lower speed stuff.
This what you got there sammy? link
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5. November 2008 @ 07:46 |
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Yep, that's them. Cost works out about right, since the UK currency has fallen in the last month from 1.9 to 1.6, and since there are no rebates in the UK (which really doesn't bother me at all, I couldn't be bothered with the hassle and having to get lucky to get money off stuff), $118 works out at £74.73. Add VAT and you get £87.81, which is actually £2.82 more than I'm paying.
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5. November 2008 @ 17:16 |
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It's a sad day, my favourite disk of choice the WD5000AAKB has been discontinued at ebuyer - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129413
Ah well, for any future pc's it'll have to be SATA i guess, but other places are still selling the AAKB so may buy some more before they all dry up..
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5. November 2008 @ 17:49 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
It's a sad day, my favourite disk of choice the WD5000AAKB has been discontinued at ebuyer - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129413
Ah well, for any future pc's it'll have to be SATA i guess, but other places are still selling the AAKB so may buy some more before they all dry up..
creaky,
The Segate is an excellent drive. I've gotten about 6 or 7 for my customers and they are quiet and reasonably fast for an IDE! Sata would be a much faster drive though.
Russ
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5. November 2008 @ 17:56 |
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Can't say I've tried the IDE ones since ATA-33 days, but I know that the S-ATA Seagates are pretty loud. Then again, if you run a dozen of them, no drive is going to end up quiet, except perhaps a Greenpower.. :)
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5. November 2008 @ 18:15 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Can't say I've tried the IDE ones since ATA-33 days, but I know that the S-ATA Seagates are pretty loud. Then again, if you run a dozen of them, no drive is going to end up quiet, except perhaps a Greenpower.. :)
well i must agree with Sam here. noise isnt somehting i worry about. but the GP WD 500gb hdd i got. i cannot hear at all. i hear my 500gb sata seagate just a bit but nothing that bothers me at all. the GP drives are ultra silent. here is the one i got.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136149
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5. November 2008 @ 18:20 |
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Greenpowers are the quietest 3.5" drives ever made, full stop.
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5. November 2008 @ 18:28 |
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Luckily all my AAKB and AAKS's are as silent as can be, even when all 13 are running together. The other 2 WD's are slightly older and smaller, those 2 can be heard a little.
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5. November 2008 @ 19:02 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Greenpowers are the quietest 3.5" drives ever made, full stop.
im pretty sure some 3.5" drives are quieter......even if they are floppy :p
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5. November 2008 @ 19:11 |
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Go find me a quiet floppy disk then... :P Those things are loud.
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5. November 2008 @ 20:21 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Go find me a quiet floppy disk then... :P Those things are loud.
If you can find an old Teac or Matsushita drives, they are both fast and quiet. I have a Teac Dual drive that I won't part with. Considering they bring $40-$60 these days on e-bay, they are getting scarce! Very handy to have, as I occasionally have to transfer 5.25s to 3.50 disks. makes the task pretty easy as you can write directly from drive A to drive B and vice-versa!
Russ
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5. November 2008 @ 20:38 |
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Why didn't anybody tell me to look at the db rating before I just ordered my halloween special seagate 640gb newegg??? How loud is it gonna be? (Doesn't matter right now, but I'm thinking quiet future new build.) :(
-Rich
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5. November 2008 @ 20:56 |
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To clarify that statement a bit further, memory bandwidth hurts your CPU's raw arithmetic performance
To recorrect memory bandwidth affects the performance of ones entire system. It not only effects encoding and transcoding but also transfer rates as well. It also effects multimedia and graphics rendering performance which explains why graphics card designers have been adding larger and larger chunks of memory to improve frame rates. ATI's latest cards includes one with GDDR5 memory to improve memory bandwidth to improve performance.
There are some benefits of processor speed over memory bandwidth, especially with encoding, but only to a point. Information still has to run to and from the processor along a highway which we refer too has the FSB. A two lane highway limits the amount of traffic that can flow back and forth but a 4 lane highway allows for considerably more traffic, because it provides for two lanes in and two lanes out. If memory in any way slows that flow of traffic then it creates a bottleneck.
Now can I ask if you guys are really debating on the speeds of 3.5" floppy disks on an overclocking thread??? LOL
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5. November 2008 @ 21:15 |
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I added +.02v to my tape drive and it spools faster...
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harvrdguy
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5. November 2008 @ 21:28 |
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No sophocles, it's even worse than that, they are debating the NOISE level of floppies - it's shaff's fault as usual. LOL
As I understood Sam's point on memory bandwidth, Sam was referring to main system ram. Yes, on the graphics cards themselves we see some great leaps forward with bigger and faster ram, but I understood Sam to say that benches had shown that for gaming, at least, faster memory bandwidth on main system ram didn't seem to improve fps. I find that to be both surprising and puzzling.
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5. November 2008 @ 21:55 |
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No sophocles, it's even worse than that, they are debating the NOISE level of floppies - it's shaff's fault as usual. LOL
I guess they must be really bored if 8 bit technology has become a topic for discussion. LOL
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As I understood Sam's point on memory bandwidth, Sam was referring to main system ram. Yes, on the graphics cards themselves we see some great leaps forward with bigger and faster ram, but I understood Sam to say that benches had shown that for gaming, at least, faster memory bandwidth on main system ram didn't seem to improve fps. I find that to be both surprising and puzzling
I understood Sam's point regarding system memory. I was merely pointing out the areas in which memory improves performance. A GPU is analogous to a video card, what a CPU is to a system. Some games are more CPU intensive than others, and if that's true then some will utilize bus bandwidth and memory bandwidth to input and output data to and from the CPU. A bottle neck in that flow will result in lost frames. In my view there will be some loss even on games that are not that CPU intensive.
The trick is to find the balance between the two such as to eliminate bottlenecks. I find it difficult to separate a good overclock from an increase in memory speed which means that I also overclock memory as well. The need to increase the performance of one should not necessarily require the exclusion of the other to be realized.
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6. November 2008 @ 06:37 |
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I had a rather strange happening with my computer. My NIC didn't work one morning early in the week. No matter what I did, it wouldn't work. I tried both cables that are in my room as well as the two in the front room. They all worked with other computers attached to them. I just figured that it had died so I turned the on-board Lan off and put a LAN card in a PCI slot. Today I pulled everything apart to give the computer a thorough cleaning and when I plugged the Lan cable in I didn't think and plugged it into the on-board. For whatever reason I decided to turn it back on and see if I could get it to work. Much to my amazement, it's been working ever since. Anybody ever have something like that happen to them? Temperatures were about 50F both days, so there was no real difference in the conditions. Usually when something electronic goes wrong, it usually stays wrong, so this is a bit of a novelty to me! I was just wondering if anyone else ever experienced it!
Best Regards,
Russ
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6. November 2008 @ 15:34 |
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russ, i had same problem with a customer & her 3 computers. the onboard card would stop working so had to install a pci card. only when i had to re-install windows did the onboards work again.
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