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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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agent-k
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28. August 2004 @ 04:17 |
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Thanks for that Sophocles.
I'll do a film from scratch with DVD Decrypter, then run it through RB/CCE to see how I get on.
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28. August 2004 @ 04:47 |
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I had it set on three click mode so that if it went tits up I could see on which process it failed.
Try starting out simple, then working your way up. Use one click method, and don't do any editing. To improve quality use steal space from extras(25%-33%) and resize to half D1 on the extras instead of editing.
Then as you get it working you can try 3-click method, re-authoring using other apps then going to RB, and batch mode.
good luck.....
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agent-k
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28. August 2004 @ 06:04 |
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bigorange,
most of what you just said was jibberish to me.
I just had another go but this time I started from scratch.
I decrypted 'Enemy of the State' with DVD Decrypter, the file is over 8Gig.
Then I run ReBuilder. It encoded in 56 minutes which impressed me because averybody says it takes 3-4 hours.
When I clicked on 'Rebuild' it went fine at first but when it got to the third segment it stopped with another error. This time it was #0004.
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28. August 2004 @ 06:11 |
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agent-k
In the folder where you have RB there is a file called DVD Rrebuilder configuration settings, double click on it and copy and paste them here. Sometimes the solution is so simple as to be overlooked entirely.
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64026402
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28. August 2004 @ 06:18 |
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Hello Agent-K
If your encoding in less than an hour on an 8 gig movie then you have a basic setup problem.
The likely place to look is the mpeg2dec3dg.dll file.
Is the dll in the same folder as rebuilder. Is the box checked for add mpeg2dec.dll to avisynth.
Do you have Avisynth 2.54 installed and does it have mpeg2dec3dg.dll in the plug in folder.
Donald
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64026402
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28. August 2004 @ 06:39 |
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Agent-K
Since you own CCE it is certainly worth the time to get everything working right even if you prefer Shrink.
Once setup is to you liking the advantages become more apparent.
If you have a background decypter like dvd43 or anydvd you can just use the same in and out folders each time. Then you can insert the dvd, open Rebuilder, hit transcode and relax. No settings,setup, analysis or changes.
Most of us edit or play with the source or do multiple movies at once so decrypting manually into a source folder is necessary.
I can rip several movies into labeled folders in the source directory then use batch in rbfarm to encode them sequentially using several stripped down slave computers taking about an hour each with no help from me.
So you can choose simple or advanced with many options as you go along. I never worry about the original size because the results have always been superior to anything else I use reguardless of input size.
Donald
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28. August 2004 @ 07:18 |
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agentK
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bigorange,
most of what you just said was jibberish to me
All I said was "Try starting out simple, then working your way up. Use one click method, and don't do any editing. To improve quality use steal space from extras(25%-33%) and resize to half D1 on the extras instead of editing"
This is in the basic setup guide by vurbal. You are the one that said you were using the 3 click method, which is much more involved and indicates you know the basic setup.
We can't read your mind, only respond to what you tell us.
GO VOLS !
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agent-k
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28. August 2004 @ 07:26 |
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Sophocles,
here is the configuration settings;
[Paths]
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\xxxxxxx\My Documents\My Downloads\dvd-rbv055b[www.free-codecs.com]\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=C:\ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\RBENEMY\
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[Options]
LoadPlugin=1
OneClick=0
idct7Opt=1
AudioDub=1
NoWarn=1
CCE=2
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
Oh no..! now you can see my real name. My anonimity is blown.
64026402,
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The likely place to look is the mpeg2dec3dg.dll file.
Is the dll in the same folder as rebuilder. Is the box checked for add mpeg2dec.dll to avisynth.
Yes and yes.
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Do you have Avisynth 2.54 installed and does it have mpeg2dec3dg.dll in the plug in folder.
Yes I do have Avisynth 2.54 installed and no it didn't have mpeg2dec3dg.dll in the plug-in folder. But I've just put it in there.
Sorry if I'm a bit slow responding but I'm painting and wallpapering and trying to get the hang of Flash MX and these programs as well.
I'm sure I can hear the beer in the fridge calling my name. Such a potent temptress.
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28. August 2004 @ 07:27 |
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bigo
I think that he's referring to this line.
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To improve quality use steal space from extras(25%-33%) and resize to half D1 on the extras instead of editing"
It could be confusing to a beginner.
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28. August 2004 @ 07:31 |
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Edit and remove your name and replace it with XXXXXXXXXXXX.
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agent-k
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28. August 2004 @ 07:35 |
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bigorange
didn't mean to sound offensive but your are replying with technical stuff which is over my head.
I am grateful for your help and everyone else.
Would you like one of my beers?
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28. August 2004 @ 07:47 |
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No, but I'll take a Jack daniels and water on ice.
signed, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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agent-k
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30. August 2004 @ 03:00 |
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I still can't get it to rebuild.
I've tried CCE 2.66, 2.67, and 2.69 all with no luck.
Anything else I should try? I really would like to see the results with this method.
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64026402
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30. August 2004 @ 03:15 |
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Agent-K
Unfortunately using different versions of cce won't help this problem. You have a setup problem with cce or avisynth or the paths. Until this is figured out your dead in the water.
Were did you get the mpeg2dc3dg.dll file. With all the CCE changes you also need to clear the CCE folders out then reinstall just one CCE then reset the path.
When encoding watch the numbers for CCE. See if the bit rate stays very low and the frame don't vary much.
Donald
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agent-k
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30. August 2004 @ 03:23 |
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It may be a good idea to take all the relevant programs out and re-install them from scratch and start all over again.
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agent-k
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30. August 2004 @ 03:26 |
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It may be a good idea to take all the relevant programs out and re-install them from scratch and start all over again.
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64026402
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30. August 2004 @ 03:28 |
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I've done that before.
I've done that before.
Donald
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64026402
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30. August 2004 @ 03:41 |
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Agent-K
I recomend installing DVDrebuilder into a named folder on C: to keep confusion about the location to a minimum. Make sure to make a new short cut. Use the latest rebuilder.
Donald
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Schaf1945
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30. August 2004 @ 14:49 |
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Vurbal
Thx for the advice re RB/CCE settings - I will continue using 16. While I've got you - I hope this question is not too far off topic. After RB/CCE have done their wonderful job, we have to burn. In my case I can use either
#1 Nero
#2 Copy2DVD (left over from my DVD2One days)
#3 ImgTool/DVD Decrypter
Noticing that #3 would involve some translation ie VIDEO_TS to ISO to VIDEO_TS, I am lead to ponder. Referring to quality, does all burning software produce the same end result?
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30. August 2004 @ 14:57 |
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Schaf1945
I know I'm not Vurbal but I'd like to answer. I use Nero most of the time but on occasion Nero reports an error stating that proceeding might result in a movie that might not be playable. In such situations I use CopyToDvd (also from my DVD2One days) and it's given me a working movie everytime.
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30. August 2004 @ 15:14 |
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In my experience, under normal conditions there shouldn't be any difference between different burning software, but when your system has problems there may be. When I first started backing up DVDs (late 2002) I had been using Nero 5.5.x for my CD burning. Unfortunately there were many people who had problems with 5.5 and DVD burning, and I decided not to even mess with it. Since I didn't have any other commercial programs (or interest in buying them) I decided to use DVD Decrypter (with ImgTool) to burn. This worked great but since I was tired of making images (after ripping with Decrypter and stripping with IfoEdit) I got a copy of RecordNow Max 4.5, which continues to be my program of choice. After a couple of months I started getting bad burns, and I eventually determined that it was a Windows problem (which I never resolved because a lightning strike took out the PC). During my testing, I found that, even burning at 1x (which was the only way I could get a good burn) DVD Decrypter often gave me bad discs, but RecordNow always did the job.
Now all of that is probably not very helpful, but it's as good an answer as I can give. I wouldn't base your opinion of Decrypter on that evidence since I was sure Windows was the culprit of the initial problems (there were other problems that suggested this). Plus it was many updates back. I haven't ever used anything besides Decrypter or RecordNow to burn with so I can't comment on the other software. I will say that if I wanted to use Decrypter now, I'd probably just use Shrink to make the image (with no compression of course) and then have it automatically use Decrypter to burn.
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30. August 2004 @ 15:22 |
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I've only had that warning from Nero perhaps a little more than a dozen times but out of over 500 burns that's not bad. But on the one occassion that I ignored the warning I got a coaster so I burned the movie again but with CopyToDVD and it worked fine. It could be a coincident but then again maybe not.
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Schaf1945
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30. August 2004 @ 15:31 |
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Thx guys, food for thought. You are both talking about reliability of the burn which can be a problem. But what about the video/sound quality of the end result - is there a difference there?
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30. August 2004 @ 15:37 |
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No the sound you keep is the same on the backup as it was on the original.
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30. August 2004 @ 15:37 |
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The only thing the burning program could do to cause video problems is to make too many errors. In other words, with respect to the burning software they're the same thing.
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