|
The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
|
|
|
Any Flaming Results in a Temp Ban or Worse. Your Choice!!!
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:09 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by sammorris:
the 4400 had 1mb, it was the 4200+ that had 512k. Not that it's that important.
I could have sworn that the old 939 4400+ windsor had 2-1Mb of L2 cache. The original AM2 design was a dog as well. I remember the complaints very well, as it didn't perform as well as the socket 939s and had terrible memory bandwidth compared to the Intel C2D. I did upgrade the bios in OxiMoron and it did improve the memory bandwidth, but the AM2+ and the 780G chipset is definitely the better of the two!
EDIT!
I'm sorry, I meant the Toledo Core! It had 2x1MB of L2 cache on the 4400+!
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103546
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
 This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13. November 2008 @ 16:14
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:17 |
Link to this message
|
|
well i did have them kinda folded up a bit. i now have them just out right now and all is ok. i guess i had them folded up to much.
|
|
rick5446
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:20 |
Link to this message
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:27 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by rick5446:
You talk about prices taking a drastic drop WOW Look at this. & everything is free shipping
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...9988014
Did you notice what was written above the drive?
'RAM Disk' is not an installation procedure! LOL!! Good price and it will use less power, run cooler and make less noise than the comparable 7200.10 500/32 drive!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:33 |
Link to this message
|
Hehe, Seagate spokesman?
That is a cheap deal for a Seagate I'll admit. Hope you've got good cooling though, those big 7200.10s get pretty darn hot.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:40 |
Link to this message
|
Well, all the S-ATA cables I've folded in the way you do it have broken within months. Of the tens of cables I've used without folding, only one has broken.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:40 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by Russ:
The reason I ask is because I read in Tom's Hardware a while back that doing this can cause problems.
Originally posted by sammy:
For the record, I've had several S-ATA cable failures from bending them flat. Don't do it folks! :)
Please provide a link and some empirical data for such statements. I've been doing this for over a year now and NO evident problems that I can tell. What are the problems that they indicate? It's truly not that big of a deal because I can loop them up and not bend them but folding them is so fun. :P
....gm
add: RedRob good to hear you got it sorted. ;) What was it? Loose connection? Gremlin? or WHAT??
Hey, I said I read something about this a while ago, and I sure as heck don't remember where it was, but I did find this in a quick search:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=742083&page=3
You should also keep them away from power cables! They also shouldn't bundle them together!
Russ
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:42 |
Link to this message
|
|
I think what does it is repeatedly folding them, if you do it and leave them be it shouldn't be as much of an issue.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 16:45 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by sammorris:
I think what does it is repeatedly folding them, if you do it and leave them be it shouldn't be as much of an issue.
I do know from the Serial Printer days that you couldn't place them too close to power lines. I'm also sure that they have improved Sata cables a lot in the last couple of years, and made them heavier!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 21:14 |
Link to this message
|
het is antone haven problems with IE? i cant get on it and when trying to open a window it locks everything up for a min or 2. im on firefox now and no problems
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 21:16 |
Link to this message
|
Firefox crashes all the time for me, I have to use google chrome to view more demanding websites like afterdawn.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 21:22 |
Link to this message
|
|
i use IE 98% with no problems. now it wont even load. im wondering if i have some virus or something. i just tried ad-aware2007 and it locks up the same way????
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 21:30 |
Link to this message
|
|
Programs shouldn't just crash like that. I'd run a full disk scan for errors. If you have recorded errors in computer management, chances are data corruption could have happened as well.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 21:31 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by cincyrob:
i use IE 98% with no problems. now it wont even load. im wondering if i have some virus or something. i just tried ad-aware2007 and it locks up the same way????
Have you by any chance refused upgrades for it, or are you running IE 7?
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 21:47 |
Link to this message
|
nothing in the computer management/event viewer
but im running avg now and got this so far
anyone seen this before
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 22:07 |
Link to this message
|
|
A little concerning, I'd take care of those before jumping to conclusions.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. November 2008 @ 22:12 |
Link to this message
|
well avg healed them and got rid of them but im still haven the same problem im lost right now
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 22:52 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by cincyrob:
well avg healed them and got rid of them but im still haven the same problem im lost right now
Hey Rob. What version of AVG is that? It looks like 7.1. 8.0.1 is far better. In fact I have the pay one (full Suite) as well, but I prefer the free version to it! Never had any problems with it!
I had problems yesterday with both Hotmail and FireFox. Both upgraded without my permission, and FireFox upgraded to the latest version of 2.0 and Hotmail would no longer allow me to use the Classic Hotmail I like. Hotmail blocked me from openimg my e-mails unless I clicked continued, which upgraded Hotmail, and then FireFox2 popped up a window and told me I could upgrade now or later. When I chose later, it popped up a message when I shut it down, that it would install the upgrade the next time I started FireFox. I tried to uninstall FireFox at that point, but it said I had to complete the upgrade first and then delete it. I eventually wound up upgrading FireFox, as I couldn't open things. none of my bookmarks would completely work Like I could open AD, but It wouldn't let me open any threads. I was eventually forced to upgrade to the latest versions of Hotmail and Firefox 3! I wasn't happy at all. Sneaky bastards just kept shutting off features (Some features may no longer work properly!) until both programs no longer did the job. Before that, things only worked in IE, which I can't stand. All that clicking and clacking and having to manually make each page open to full screen. So far everything is working fine! You can turn off Automatic Upgrades, but eventually you will have to comply or things just won't work, Blackmail, I call it!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
|
ddp
Moderator
|
13. November 2008 @ 23:12 |
Link to this message
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
13. November 2008 @ 23:14 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by ddp:
russ, that is avg 7.5 version.
rob, if going to use avg then upgrade to the version 8 using this link.
http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-F...=button
To save you some time, you have to remove the old one first! Then you can install 8!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. November 2008 @ 00:02 |
Link to this message
|
|
just got done with the new install of avg8 still ame thing going on i cant get rid of this damn thing this time
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
14. November 2008 @ 00:07 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by cincyrob:
just got done with the new install of avg8 still ame thing going on i cant get rid of this damn thing this time
Have you tried replacing the Sata cables? If you had a connection problem, some files may have gotten messed up. Consider giving system restore a try since it was working all right for a while!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
|
rick5446
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
14. November 2008 @ 05:23 |
Link to this message
|
cincyrob...Try Malware this seems to do the best 4 me. This was the prog. that would find and fix my virus...I swear by it now, I use it like a firewall and have had no problems since. I just can't update as IT WAS A Found program in torrents. But it does work
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. November 2008 @ 07:55 |
Link to this message
|
ive tried malwarebytes just now.it has found some of the virus files. removed them, but im still haven the same problem with IE and ad-aware. i cant get it to work??? what am i gonna have to do reformat?????
i did replace sata cables as well. so i dont think that is the problem?
oh yea firefox sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ive had to add so much stuff to this thing to get it to run anything. java,security, i cant even think of all the stuff i had to do a addon for.
EDIT:
dont ask me how or why. it will work for a min then it wont im lost here now
ok maybe im haven a addon problem with IE& if i log in without addons enabled im fune but if i try with addons it just freeze's up on me.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. November 2008 @ 09:26
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
14. November 2008 @ 12:33 |
Link to this message
|
cincyrob,
Quote:
oh yea firefox sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ive had to add so much stuff to this thing to get it to run anything. java,security, i cant even think of all the stuff i had to do a addon for.
A couple of things! Remove the Adware or Adaware, whatever they call it. You no longer need it with AVG 8.0. I had some issues with it after I installed AVG 8! Go up to the tools in firefox and click on Add-ons. If AVG Safe Search is enabled, disable it. Firefox usually disables it, but not always. It slows the crap out of the computer when doing anything on line and it's not needed as it's total overkill. AVG recommends it be turned off because of that according to their website. You have me totally puzzled with the Add-ons as all I ever have to add is the Weather bug. Java, you may or may not have to add depending on your software. I have Adobe Reader 8 installed, which requires Java, but it comes with it, so I don't have to add Java because I install it first, and then installed Adobe.
The OS was fragged when I had problems the other day and windows would run, but it wouldn't properly install things. Newegg had accidentally shipped me a returned MB that was obviously defective. After installing the new one I had problems with Office XP, Sandra and a couple of other programs. The XP-Pro install had BSOD'd with the first MB in the middle of the install, and I restarted and continued the install, and everything seemed to be working all right, but I kept getting error messages if I opened Word, Excel, Power-Point or any of the Office XP programs! Sandra wouldn't install at all, which I originally attributed to Sandra reporting an Unknown MB (didn't recognize the chipset). I finally wiped the drive and did a fresh install of XP-Pro, and the install went without any problems. It was weird, as Windows appeared to be working properly. I had no problems with the replacement MB which Newegg overnighted to me. Everything worked fine after that!
When I had the browser problem caused by the forced upgrade to FF 2.0.018 and the new Hotmail, I un-installed Firefox 2 and installed FF 3! Actually you can install it as an upgrade and it all works fine now. The only utility I use now, is Tuneup Utilities 2008. I no longer use 1 Click Fixer as it crashed Gina's computer, and BSOD'd on her, and was giving strange error messages on mine, so I removed it. I tried Opera 9.62 as a browser and IMO it sucks! In 2 days, I had 193 tracking cookies. That's more than I've seen, total in 4 years with FF! I usually run the Tuneup 1 click Maintenance at least once a day if I'm on line a lot as it does a great job of removing all the useless crap and temporary files. It sounds like something is messed up in your XP, maybe a driver issue with internal windows drivers, which was my problem. I've been running the hell out of the 4400+ for a couple of days now and it's rock solid and very fast. If you continue to have problems, I would start over with a wipe of the drive and a fresh install of XP-Pro. If you are using the install disk with SP-2, I would recommend you install XP, AVG next and then do your XP authentication. From there, if you use RI4M, install Nero, DVD Decryptor and then DVD Shrink. After that everything should work properly. Good Luck!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
|
