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19. April 2010 @ 03:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For those who have been following the Building thread, they know I've been experiencing a curious lag at times. I now wonder if that lag, causes hiccups in gameplay as well. Crysis will hault for an instance, in which frame rate bottoms out. When I say instance, I mean roughly 1/10th of a second. Which is substantially less, than the lag I experience in windows. E.g. Loading an ISO image into imgburn, and having it hault/refresh/think for a moment. Usually, it will have to think for upwards of 1 full second. Thats NOT with EVERY iso image. It happens every now and again. I thought it disappeared with the install of a new PSU. I was wrong. I witnessed the lag once again. I went to delete multiple files in a download directory, and it had to think about it for a moment. I'm now leaning toward a fresh install of windows. I shall begin preparations for that unfortunate task :( This is the first time, that I frown about a fresh install. Much has happened since install. Networking, multiple installs, heck...we all know this song LOL! Truly unfortunate.

If the lag remains, I'll be looking at possibly replacing my Velociraptor yet again. For my last configuration with a different V-raptor, did not have this curious lag. Unfortunately, that V-raptor had a different issue. Which could have simply been a bad connection. I'll never know...

Wow, crysis can sure bring a GTX 260 to its knees. At all high settings, and 1920 resolution, I was lucky to see it hover above 30F/ps for more than a second! I had to tame it down to 1280 x 720 which seems to be fairly agreeable. Sure would like VERY HIGH settings and 60 F/ps ;) I suppose no single GPU can do that though. But the GTX 260 is nearly outdated. In fact in an enthusiasts eyes, it is!



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Wow, crysis can sure bring a GTX 260 to its knees. At all high settings, and 1920 resolution, I was lucky to see it hover above 30F/ps for more than a second! I had to tame it down to 1280 x 720 which seems to be fairly agreeable. Sure would like VERY HIGH settings and 60 F/ps ;) I suppose no single GPU can do that though. But the GTX 260 is nearly outdated. In fact in an enthusiasts eyes, it is!
Should be a perfect marriage for 1680 x 1050. I was easily able to play it near maxed at that res with a single 4870. You shouldn't have an issue. 1920 x 1200 is a bit much, yes.

If you are interested I can tell you my tweaked very high settings and how to apply them so you can give it a try. It enables all the big shader effects, light beams, POM, etc without the performance loss of very high. It's an extremely close comparison and I have fooled even huge Crysis buffs with the finished product. The only features missing from the actual very high settings, are increased draw distance(high is sufficient anyway) and Dx10 per-object motion blur, the two biggest FPS killers in the game. All of the other eye candy is there and, in a screenshot comparison, will look nearly identical to full very high. Oh yes this mod can be applied to Warhead and Wars as well.

Real Very High:
http://www.tweakguides.com/images/Crysis_22a.jpg

My tweaked settings(mind you I have additional tweaks over this and it's an even closer comparison):
http://www.tweakguides.com/images/Crysis_22b.jpg

1680 x 1050, 4870 single card

Dx10 High - 48.3FPS

Dx10 "Cheap" V.High - 42.9FPS

Dx10 Very High - 28.6

Specifically you should be running it in Dx10, 32 bit as I've found in my results.



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I was running it in 64 bit. I imagine that has an effect eh? ;)



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Umm read my edits please. I tried to provide as much info as possible. I've spent more time tweaking and experimenting with Crysis than I ever have playing it I've figured out configs for almost any system. I almost pride myself on my knowledge of the properties of the engine :P

Yeah 64 bit specifically will cause issues with Crysis. Many will say it helps but from my direct benchmarking, 64 bit is always 1-2FPS slower on average and results in large FPS dips.

Also mind that my tweaks include some that help performance drastically in certain situations and with certain effects in the game. Specifically one to move physics to your 4th core helps IMMENSELY.



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Omega: Crysis is optimised for nvidia cards at lower detail, not so much at max detail, but on a single 2008 gen card, max detail ain't gonna happen, unless on a very small screen.
It was playable maxed on my X1900XT believe it or not, well, maxed in DX9, so only 'High', and at 800x600, with no AA, and only in the first level...
Jeff: Indeed, never use AA in Crysis, especially not the original, where it has almost no effect on graphics.
Omega: The GTX480 can manage Very High at 60fps at low resolutions like 1280x800, but that's about it :P
Jeff: Hotlinking isn't allowed at that site. Take the pageURL.
Ultimately, while I would be interested to see what difference that mod has, it won't end up with the game being playable at my res yet, so I may as well wait a while longer :P



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Originally posted by DICE:
Our current plan is to allow Steam to test the patch tonight and all being well we will look to release R7 client and R10 servers on Wednesday morning European time. I'll update more on that later once the details are finalised.




In the mean time here is the R7 client changelist.
MP ? New Server browser
MP ? Added 15 second spawn timer for Conquest/Rush gamemodes at the start of round to prevent high end machines getting the upper hand before other machines load in.
MP ? Crash fixes relating to ALT+TAB at different times throughout the game
MP ? Hang fix when trying to connect to a full server multiple times
MP ? Deletion of soldiers now possible through the account pages in game
MP ? Removed screen flash during loading
MP ? Added support for colour blind players
MP ? Fixed crashes relating to faulty server banners
MP ? Servers closing during connection no longer cause the client to hang
MP ? Auto team swap reflects correctly in the scoreboard
MP ? Fixed scoreboards when switching teams before spawning
MP ? Rush scoreboards fixed
MP ? Veteran ranks no longer display as ?12?
MP ? Isla Innocentes MCOM building fixed where knifing the fence would destroy the building
MP ? Logout/Login button correctly reflects the player status
MP ? Added minimum number of players needed to start a round (you can still start playing and take objectives but you won't get any score until 4 or more players join the server)
MP ? Isla Inocentes welcome message on the loading screen now fits the text box area
MP ? Reduced the brightness in Russian vehicles
MP ? Medic gadgets now display correctly if the defib is not unlocked
MP ? Server filter options are remembered
MP ? Punkbuster filter now works as intended
MP ? Scroll bar no longer overlays the Join Server button in the friends list panel
MP ? CANCEL server refresh is implemented
MP ? Zooming in on a friendly using the SAIGA no longer causes the crosshair to disappear
MP ? The chat no longer displays the incorrect player name when appearing
MP ? FoV switches to the default value of 55 when entering vehicles to prevent graphical glitches caused by wider FoV settings. The custom FoV returns when exiting vehicles.
MP ? FoV no longer causes the UAV station to rotate
MP ? Fix to correctly display the unlock progression at the end of round
MP ? Chat functionality will no longer freeze after writing a partial message at the end of round
MP ? One account can no longer connect to the same server multiple times
MP ? Squad Death Match is correctly named during loading
MP ? Server browser no longer gets a bad FPS when filtering Conquest
MP ? Server info banners correctly clear between displays
MP ? Setting display settings which the system hardware can not handle no longer makes the game unusable
MP ? Correct camera collision for vehicles' heavy machine gun
MP ? Game no longer crashes if the player sends a message in the loading screen
MP ? Trying to join a full server no longer causes the game to hang on Please Wait message
MP ? Most server filter options are remembered it doesn't remember the setting in dropdowns
MP ? Kit/gadget loadout saved between sessions
MP ? Window on static guns is now transparent on DirectX 9 systems
SP ? Fixed crashes when patching and trying to resume a campaign (there is now a message that you need to re-play the latest mission from the beginning)
SP ? Fixed a crash after the ?Upriver? mission end cinematic
SP ? Supply create at ?Resupply at Flynn?s create? objective now supplies weapon ammo
SP ? Hang fix when reaching the objective ?Destroy Enemy Zu23?
SP ? Fixed hang after ?Storm Cockpit? objective
SP ? Changed melee attack raycast to be detailed
SP ? Game no longer crashes when transitioning between SP_03B to SP_04A when installed in Polish
SP ? Game no longer crashes when killed by the first two enemies in the trenches on SP_01 when installed in Italian
SP ? Updating to R7 will invalidate your single player save game. If you update you will need to play your last mission from the start. If you do not update you will not be able to play multiplayer.
Here is the R10 Server changelist
Punkbuster is required ON for ranked servers
Ranked servers cannot be started with a password
Autobalance message goes to text-chat instead of in the middle of the screen
Added weapon balance tweaks to a number of weapons ? we are eagerly awaiting feedback!
We aren't going to tell you what weapon balance tweaks we have done, we want your unbiased views on the changes before we detail what has changed.




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thaks for that sam



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"Reduced brightness on Russian vehicles" - is that Metro that you guys were talking about?

Jeff, like Sam I couldn't follow your tweakguides link - but thanks anyway, because I completely forgot Koroush had that web site. I paid $4 for his tweak guide and was glad I did - read through almost the whole thing and picked up a lot of tips. I hope he is beginning to make some money with his advertising, because I think he's very bright and very helpful - just like you guys, lol.

I have to break your bubble about one thing though. In searching for the article that you guys, Sam and Estuansis didn't link to about pci-e, I did find it (thanks for the new link Jeff) and took note of the following:




Originally posted by Jeff:
With basically the fastest single core card. That definitive enough? Proves my theory all along that PCI-e isn't even close to being tapped.
I'm sorry Jeff, but I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion, in light of the following testing:

I stumbled across the Canadians who had this to say: Here is the link to page 22 of the Hardware Canucks article, specifically targeting the 5970 card:



That is a HUGE difference in performance - the average drops 16% which is bad enough, but Sam says he doesn't use average anymore, only minimums, which drop 36% when you put the 5970 on an 8x bandwidth slot.

THAT IS HUGE!! Am I right?

In addition to that, referring to the same picture, look at how two 5850s in crossfire rape the 5970 - the minimum is up almost 10% and the average fps is up 20%! Is that because the 5970 has artificially low clocks to stay under the acceptable 300 watt TDP threshhold? If not the clocks, then what is causing that performance difference?

That is a strong argument, Sam, unless there is something really wrong with this data, in light of the fact that you don't plan to get another 5970, for you to get two 5850s instead, making sure they have 2gb of memory each. Two of them would total 4gb, same as the petunia.

Some quick checking showed that 2gb 5850s run about $100 more than the 1 gig version, or about $400 versus $300. Two of those would be $800, probably what the Petunia would cost. And then, because it's a single card, you're back to the "only 5%" maximum pci-e bandwidth performance penalty on dropping from 16x all the way down to 4x.

So here are two questions:
1. Why do two 5850s in crossfire kick the 5970 card's butt?
2. And is this data correct? MAJOR penalty of more than 30% on minimum fps performance, for a 5970 running 2560x1600, going from a 16x to 8x slot.

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I'm glad you guys keep up on the gaming news so well. I'll look for Respawn Entertainment in the future with a new franchise. I agree with Jeff, Medal of Honor Airborne basically sucked. When you run in the game, there is a very strange motion blur thing that makes me slightly nauseous, and I don't get nauseous. I went back to play the game again after getting the 30" screen, and got 1/3 way through and quit - the game just wasn't good enough to do again.

I had read a review about it - they talked about the original confusion of storming the beach at Normandy - I think it was the first Medal of Honor when the Infinity Ward guys were still at Ubi. That coming onto the beach was unbelievable. So in the review they were saying that parachuting down on the artillery tower in that one town they thought would be similar - Well it wasn't - it basically sucked.

There is an art to making these games that I don't understand - like the artistic ability that gives James Cameron the top two grossing movies of all time. The Infinity Ward guys have it, Treyarch doesn't have it, and whatever team does the Medal of Honors, doesn't have it.

I agree with Jeff - COD2 = great game. And although I will never get tired of WW2 (where we went in and saved all your British butts, sam, and shaff) I think COD4 easily is just as good as COD2 if not better. And I'm probably more die-hard WW2 than Jeff!

A little off-thread - but I had a great political conversation with a very bright guy on what would have happened if

1. the Japanese had not attacked Pearl (Jeff's favorite part of Medal of Honor, Pacific Assault - yeah I liked the Peart Harbor part a lot too!!! - in fact I liked the whole game a lot, almost right up there with COD2, and it wasn't an Infinity Ward team - who was it?)
2. the Nazis had left Russia alone, and
3. the Nazis had decided to invade England.

We discussed it and figured out that the Nazis would have been destroyed - the same way that Russia destroyed them - unless they had gotten the the A-bomb, although France had already bought up all the most fissionable uranium before the Germans could buy it.

First of all, the Nazis would have had to get past the British navy. Second of all, their airforce already had been humbled by the Brits so they had to leave them alone, which allowed the Brits to rebuild. Third of all, with 40 million stubborn Brits against about 6 million German soldiers, reinforced by a bunch of reluctant Polish conscripts, and maybe 1 million Italians, (the Germans had an army of 7 million but I am sure they needed to keep at least a million in the occupied territories) and the British government quickly relocating itself to Canada, and the 20 million Canadians already partially in the war, and the 600 million Hindis still British subjects, and then undoubtedly the Aussies would have joined the fight in a major way............

I'm sure the German military commanders sat around a table and told Hitler, "No way, Jose!" Hahaha.


So my point was that even if Pearl had never happened, and even if the States had never entered the war, in which case we wouldn't have all these WW2 video games, in my opinion the German effort to create a glorious world power fatherland was failed as soon as they decided to invade France. - that is the end of alternative World War II scenarios by Rich


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So back to that interesting news about Infinity Ward leaving Activision and re-grouping over at EA as Respawn Entertainment - we'll see them again big-time I'm sure. If the weather wasn't so rainy up in Seattle, maybe Valve could have brought them on board.

Anyway, you never know the whole story - sure maybe the main publisher guy is a complete a**hole - you also can have personality clashes. Maybe Sam is right - as he was inferring I think, maybe the reason MW2 wasn't longer was because Mr. Publisher jerk was insisting on not pushing back the deadline, because he had end of the year revenue and earnings forecasts to fulfill for the stock holders, so he could pick up his million dollar bonus.

Valve pushes back their deadlines all the time, lol. They won't put the game out there until it is REALLY good. I love those guys!

But those kinds of "we're giving you the boot" things also happen at EA!

My favorite animator of all time, a very mellow and non-confrontational guy, went over to EA for a bit, then got a better offer, wasn't super happy there anyway, and gave his two-week notice. They escorted him out the door!

He ran into some EA management a bit later who were very embarrassed that had happened, and the manager in charge of doing that was slightly lectured to - "Why did you do that?" He seemed to reply that he thought he was just carrying out standard operating procedure, haha!

Kevin, why are you re-installing operating systems again? Maybe you should spend some time with Koroush at his tweakguide.com web site like Jeff does. Are you doing everything else you can do to prevent those stutters?

Have you analyzed your hard drives with all the hard drive analysis tools that are free (koroush will tell you the ones to get)? Have you optimized your hard drive firmware?

Are you letting Windows 7 manage the pagefile, or have you followed Koroush's XP advice (I assume same on Windows 7) to completely defrag your drive, set your pagefile to zero, reboot, come back and then set a large fixed (2-3 gig) pagefile size that won't be fragmented? Tweaks like that?

I would opine that re-installing the operating system is the last place to look for improvement. Am I wrong?

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19. April 2010 @ 23:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I'm sorry Jeff, but I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion, in light of the following testing:
It really has a lot to do with the system it's being tested on and the game being used. Some will have almost no drop in performance while others suffer badly. I never said the article was absolute proof(or maybe I did oh well whatever), just very strong evidence to support my own theories on PCI-E performance. The drop is certainly much less on PCI-E 2.0 platforms though.



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Rich, I'm a firm believer that there is always another way. And it is quite discouraging to reinstall windows. But, I'm not certain what is causing the problem at this point. I'm 99% certain that none of my storage drives are the problem. If it's my velociraptor HDD, that's just plain bad luck LOL! When I sent the last one back to Western Digital, I was fairly certain that it had a problem. Power supplies are definitely not the problem. I've ran 2 different very capable PSU's. Since my Board employs 2 brand new technologies, I'm leaning that way for now(usb 3.0, and Sata Rev 3.0).

What I plan on doing, is reinstalling windows, and Bare necessities(that are known to be non culprits), and going from there. If the bug ensues, I shall buy yet another HDD. A 300Gb velociraptor. I find myself watching my current HDD space too often :p And I plan to install multiple games :D I guess I could dump the data from one of my storage drives, to another storage drive, and temporarily use it as an OS drive, to see how IT fairs ;) I think that's what I'll do. Why add another equation, to the already COMPLEX equation LOL!



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Rich: The brightness fix for Russian vehicles was for Bad Company 2 - there was a bug that meant everything was much too bright when looking from the inside of russian vehicles, for some reason.
The HardwareCanucks report is generally regarded as one that 'bucks the trend' on results for games performance. It should also be noted that FarCry 2 behaves completely differently to any other game for performance. For a start it is unable to use any more than 2 GPUs, despite numerous driver patches. Secondly, it eats video memory at high resolutions with high levels of AA.
Remember, I've used a 4870X2 quadCF setup at 8x per card and 4x per card. If results like that were typically the case, I would notice. Nothing I play has really brought about that result, though. Whenever I measure the fps I get in games that have been benchmarked, it all matches up pretty well.
The performance discrepency in the HardwareCanucks article between the HD5970 and two HD5850s is that the HD5970 shares a 16x slot between the GPUs so they get 8x each, the HD5850 Crossfire gets 16x each (assuming they're using a 32x board which they will be)


Rich - did you notice the other two benchmarks on that page? You will see they mirror the results from everywhere else.



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The changes to BFBC2 are very welcome. It seems they have addressed EVERY single issue I had with the game. It's nice that a developer can listen to their community and directly fix issues this quickly. I have yet to play the game since the new patch but rest assured I'll be checking it out extensively tomorrow.

I'm curious about the changes made to the weapons though. The AKS-74u is my current weapon of choice. I would be using a UMP45 but they only have a 25 round clip. It has better accuracy and penetration, but I find the extra 5 rounds in the AKS-74u make a bigger difference for me. Here's hoping they don't nerf anything too badly. Maybe drop the damage of the rifle grenades a bit. I can't count how many times I've been killed by guys spamming the noob-tube :P

Anyone who plays Bad Company 2 please add me in-game!!! Name is Estuansis currently level 12 engineer. I'm on for a 3-4 hour stretch a couple nights a week so let's hook up and get a squad going. I already have a very dependable medic lined up so we could use an Assault specialist for ammo!!! It's hard to be a tank-buster when you run out of recoilless rifle rounds XD



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I'd join you but pings in Bad Company 2 are bad enough with other Europeans, let alone across the Atlantic :S



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Yeah I know what you mean. Add me anyway and we'll see if we can't find an agreeable server. As I recall we have been able to play L4D 1 + 2 without issue but I suppose PvP play is a bit different than bot slaughter.

Anyhoo it can't hurt. I use a few very high speed servers and we get Europeans on from time to time and they seem to have reasonable pings. BC2's ping counter is terrible anyway. Up to about 200 ping I have perfect hit-detection even at long distance with an SMG. Any other game has terrible lag at the same ping.

Not that 200 ping is my norm. Usually hovering around 100-120 or so. 60-90 in most other games :P



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http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/articles/..._GTX_480_test/1

a very well done test for 3SLI vs 3CF, vs 4CF.

shows basically, dual sli scales better than dual CF, but tri sli scales worse than trifire, and trifire is a better bet vs quad fire.

and tri fire (5870s) use under 650 watts, where as trisli (gtx480) uses under 950W!!!!



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This is quite good, but NO MINIMUM FPS GOD DOMMOT



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Wow! That 480 is a beast! I wonder what I could sell my 260 for, and put it toward 2 ati cards...



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im waiting for a single GPU that will be double the power of my 2 4870s. then ill be content.



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Single GPU you'll be waiting a while, not even an HD6 series will pull that off. Single card though, and a 4GB HD5970 will do that already, just about :P



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haha, well considering im only at 512mb for each even a 5970 would work, but i meant single GPU. and yes i thought id be waiting till next gen :(



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Well, "next gen" will be a relatively minor performance boost I suspect, due to the failure of 28nm, so you'll probably be waiting until 2012.



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mmm thats true lol. well i shall wait then, or till im am forced to upgrade again



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The Scourge Project (AA not included)

Minimal: Radeon X850XT/X1800 series/HD2900 series/HD3650/HD4550/HD5450 or above, Geforce 6800GT/7800 series/8600GT/9500GT/GT220 or above
Reduced: Radeon X1900XT/HD2900 series/HD3690/HD4670/HD5570 or above, Geforce 7800 series/8600GT/9500GT/GT220 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD3870/HD4700 series/HD5700 series or above, Geforce 8800 series/9600GO G92/GT240 or above
Good: Radeon HD4770/HD4850/HD5750 or above, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240 or above
Optimal: Radeon HD4850X2/HD5800 series or above, Geforce GTX260 or above
Extreme: Radeon HD5830CF/HD5970 or above, Geforce GTX260 SLI/GTX295/GTX470 or above

Nice lightweight one, this.



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Just popping in to see if any of you were getting weird performance issues with the new L4D2 campaign? Whenever I try playing the passing my FPS dips quite a bit even right at the beginning.
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Not really, ran about the same as usual for me.



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