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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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19. October 2004 @ 03:23 |
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Now to redo the Star Wars Trilogy.
Donald
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Tokey
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19. October 2004 @ 13:12 |
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I tried browsing through 40 or so pages for this, but I really couldn't find an answer that made sense to me so I'm sorry if this is a report.
I'm getting a lot of oversized DVD's and I'm not sure why. I'm using 0.64a and CCE SP (basic scrambles the picture on me). The output is usually around 4.6 GB. Is there anyway to manually tell it the output size like DVD2One?
Thanks!
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19. October 2004 @ 13:17 |
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What version of CCE SP are you using? Is it a trial version? And, was the Basic that scrambled the picture a trial version?
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AfterDawn Addict
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19. October 2004 @ 13:21 |
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Tokey
This sounds like a setup problem to me. You haven't provided a lot of information but my recommendation would be to delete everything and start over making sure that you use the settings described in Vurbal's guide here on AD. The best possible fix is often a clean setup.
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Schaf1945
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19. October 2004 @ 17:10 |
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Has anyone compared the results of the 2 decoders we can now use? What is meant by "special error processing". TIA
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19. October 2004 @ 21:42 |
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I would like to try procoder, but i'm not sure of the setup, it isn't just installing a correct path to it and checking it in RB, after RB opens it, it gives a files corrupted / bad rip, or files not in the correct format error.
Yet the same files work perfectly with CCE.
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Tokey
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20. October 2004 @ 06:29 |
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Reinstalling seemed to do the trick. I redid the same movie that was giving me trouble and this time it was down to 4.38 GB so I was good to go there.
Then I loaded up Nero and dragged the files from VIDEO_TS into the VIDEO_TS on my blank DVD, and Nero gave me a warning that the .inf (? - i'm at work and don't remember the file types exactly) did not match and they should have.
Best thing to do redo it and see if it happens again?
I burned it anyways, and the DVD won't play it just hangs. I played the individual files on the DVD in media player and they work just fine, but something must have happened processing and I'm wondering if there is a quick fix? Usually my VIDEO_TS folder only has a few files (I rip in movie only mode) but my video_ts folder here had like 28 files.
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20. October 2004 @ 08:15 |
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I redid the same movie that was giving me trouble and this time it was down to 4.38 GB so I was good to go there.
That's still just a little too large. All of mine come in at 4.33 or 4.34 . The disc is 4.37, you're cutting it awful close! Wonder if that had anything to do with the burn error?
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Tokey
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20. October 2004 @ 09:30 |
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That fits on my dvd's...? Every disk I've ever tried to burn is 4.47 I think. I may be wrong about it being 4.38, but it was small enough to burn.
It was just saying some files didn't match correctly, when they should be perfect matches. Then even though the files play perfectly in Media Player, they won't play as a DVD?
P4 running at 1000mhz FSB, 3.2 GHZ, 1 gig mushkin level II black dual channel ram, 10,000 RPM raptor drive, 21" flat screen trinitron monitor
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20. October 2004 @ 12:14 |
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Tokey
Are you ripping your DVDs in file mode?
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Tokey
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20. October 2004 @ 12:20 |
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Yep, I'm doing "movie only" in file mode. I'll try again tonight from scratch and keep everyone posted. Seems like I have about 6 hours into this movie by now, but if the quality is as good as everyone says (and I paid for the software to do this) I'd like to get it working.
P4 running at 1000mhz FSB, 3.2 GHZ, 1 gig mushkin level II black dual channel ram, 10,000 RPM raptor drive, 21" flat screen trinitron monitor
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20. October 2004 @ 12:27 |
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Tokey
You must rip the entire disc in file mode, movie only won't work.
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Tokey
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20. October 2004 @ 13:17 |
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Yea it's telling me BUP doesn't match IFO. Compliance test failed via nero.
I'll redo the entire disk.
So if I typically just use DVD2ONE and burn "movie only" am I gaining any quality by using CCE to do the entire disk?
P4 running at 1000mhz FSB, 3.2 GHZ, 1 gig mushkin level II black dual channel ram, 10,000 RPM raptor drive, 21" flat screen trinitron monitor
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20. October 2004 @ 13:44 |
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Tokey
If the size of the movie is around 5 gigs then DVD2One will probably do a comparable backup to the original, but as the movie's size approaches 6 gigs then quality will begin to degrade and RB/CCE will be better. I used to do movie only backups but since I started using RB/CCE I now get everything but unwanted sound tracts.
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Tokey
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20. October 2004 @ 13:53 |
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Thanks Sophocles, you've been a huge help so far. I've been trying to do "Van Helsing" the last 2 days and that's what's been giving me trouble. I'll remember that as a rule of thumb when I'm deciding between the two programs. I'm going to stick this one out though until it gets it right, I've got too much time into it to stop know. Still, all the testing is 1/2 the fun for me!
So since it says "Video title sets" in the upper right corner, say I've only selected one when I start the process, does that do a movie only since only one set is selected?
P4 running at 1000mhz FSB, 3.2 GHZ, 1 gig mushkin level II black dual channel ram, 10,000 RPM raptor drive, 21" flat screen trinitron monitor
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20. October 2004 @ 14:01 |
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Tokey
Trust me with this one. When you see the quality your going to get with RB/CCE and still be able to keep all the extras you're going to jump with joy. I've done many 7.5 gig movies with it and I can't tell the difference between the backup and the originals. Remember DVD2one is a transcoder and RB/CCE is an encoder.
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20. October 2004 @ 14:33 |
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Tokey, listen to sophocles, I have used 53% compression(that's right, 53%!!!) in RB/CCE and couldn't tell the difference between the copy and the original at 300% magnification on a 57" screen!!!!
It's kinda like having dual layer without the DL burner or DL media, LOL.
GO VOLS !
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brobear
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20. October 2004 @ 19:46 |
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BigO
You were right on 4.38 GB pushing the envelope. A PC will round off, so if it was above 4.375 it would naturally read the 4.38. Since a 4.7 GB is in reality a 4.377 GB, you can see how close even 4.375 GB is to the edges of a DVD disc. My latest version of RB is recording to 4.30GB and I'm happy with that. You can just see the unrecorded ring on the outer edge of the DVD. A little larger might have been nicer, but I won't complain. I'll take a look at the next project to see how that turns out.
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20. October 2004 @ 20:20 |
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Thanx brobear, I knew I was, and I pointed it out, but maybe your explanation will be listened to since it was much better than mine. LOL
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21. October 2004 @ 02:55 |
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His file coming in at 4.38 was the clue that he was ripping improperly. I've experimented with about every method possible to try and get a movie only backup. On one occassion that included ripping movie only file mode with Decrypter.
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21. October 2004 @ 11:39 |
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Sophocles...when I saw your post (above) saying that a movie only option would be nice for RB, I was wondering why you weren't using the Decrypter movie only rip? Now I know. Since I had never tried it, I couldn't recommend it. And now I know not to waste my time. Thanks. I'm also thinking this would be a good subject for the FAQ's.
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21. October 2004 @ 11:59 |
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Doc
I agree put it in the facts.
Ive tried just about everything to get a movie only back up and finally gave up. I'm happy with the new updates that jdobbs has implemented and I figure it'll only get better from here.
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21. October 2004 @ 12:14 |
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I've been able to get a movie only burn with some of the older movies using Remake Pro. The newer ones require a little more work...and some good luck that they will still play OK. I've had some burns hang in the external player, but not in the computer. (When I go back to a straight Decrypter file, it works OK.)
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21. October 2004 @ 12:34 |
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Doc409
You would have to have had some of the extras because otherwise a chain would have been broken somewhere in the movie. I use remake sparingly because experience has taught me that the more I edit out, the more likely it is that I will cause a serious error. I was only able to achieve a movie only backup using CCE with DVD2DVD-R.
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21. October 2004 @ 12:58 |
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I would agree, the more that gets edited out, the more likely something won't work. The older movies tended not to have all the extras the new ones do. What they did have had stand-alone blocks that could be edited easily. The newer DVD's are obviously getting more complicated. I am finding that there is little quality difference, if any, in leaving the trailers (previews) in vs. editing them out. Sometmes these can be 2 to 3 GB's.
Because of the time invested, and the subsequent risk factor that something will not work, I am at the point of thinking I might be better off just sending the complete Decrypter file through RB-CCE? I see very little difference. It is also difficult to determine if the "error" is with Remake or RB?
It would be interesting to hear other's backup strategies at this point.
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