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11. October 2004 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting. I have a suggestion if you want to play with it a bit. Go to 3 step mode, and run the Step 2 files through different past versions of RB, like .58, which was fairly stable.
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11. October 2004 @ 13:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I already have .58 setup if you know what I mean. I'll give it a try tonight and report back tomorrow but first I'm going to load it in DVDremake and check out its structure, IFOEdit didn't reveal anything.

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11. October 2004 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
v0.63a is the most stable version.
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11. October 2004 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jdobbs

I don't think that my problem was the result of RB in particular I think that it's a compatibility issue. The files that I ran through twice had been ripped with DVD Shrink, I'll try it again tonight ripped with Decrypter.

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11. October 2004 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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sooo, spamlover, are you saying you experienced no audio/video skips using v.62 just using RB/CCE without editing?
YES! Just used Decrypter and then encoded via DVD-RB .62.

Time flies like an arrow...fruit flies like a banana!

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11. October 2004 @ 23:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Update... I just burned Red Dragon using the same (as stated above) movie only files created by DVD-Shrink. I defragged my hard drive, moved all movie files to my "C" drive, used DVD-RB .63a, and burned the resulting files with Pinnacle Instant Copy 8. I'm happy to say that worked like a charm.

Only one problem: I altered so many variables, that i'm not sure which one accounted for the skips...doh!! I'm now burning the same Shrink/DVD-RB .63a files from above with CloneDVD 2 just to see if the CloneDVD 2 program was the problem. I'll keep you guys posted!

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12. October 2004 @ 09:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just burned Red Dragon with CloneDVD 2 after using Shrink (main movie) and then DVD-RB 63a.

There was a slight audio skip when the studio logo appeared on the screen before the movie started. No skips anywhere else in the movie, but that just bugs the heck out of me so I used the disc as a frisbee and tossed it.

Could we conclude that perhaps CloneDVD2 is somewhat incompatible with burning DVD-RB files after Shrink has pre-processed them? Could we also conclude that RB .63a is much more stable?

Granted, when I used RB .62 with CloneDVD2, the results were horrible. With RB .63a, only one skip isn't that bad in comparison.

Time flies like an arrow...fruit flies like a banana!

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12. October 2004 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You didn't say if you are viewing on a computer or a standalone player? You could also conclude it's poor media, as well as a standalone player that is having trouble with that kind of media.

I would also have to assume that CloneDVD is set up to burn it's own files, and so I would chose to use an all-purpose burner like Nero. I would also use the check disc feature to make sure the final burn matches the source files.
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12. October 2004 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for responding Doc.
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You didn't say if you are viewing on a computer or a standalone player?
I'm viewing the movies on a standalone Panasonic RP-56 that I bought approx. 2 1/2 years ago. I could take the "problem discs" to a local store to see if they play on their units.
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You could also conclude it's poor media
I don't think so. I haven't had any problems so far with this current batch of Ridata 4x DVD+R and Prodisc 8x DVD+R.
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I would also use the check disc feature to make sure the final burn matches the source files.
Where would I find this feature in Nero? I have Nero 6.3, but I haven't used it for burning but once. I also have Nero Recode... is this a good program for burning?




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12. October 2004 @ 12:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The "Verify Written Data" feature is a box you check in the lower left corner when the burn process starts.

You've immediately eliminated bad media without checking it. One way is to run it through DVD InfoPro to check for read errors ( http://www.dvdinfopro.com/ ). A quick test, but not as reliable, is to try running it through Decrypter. If a file is corrupt/unreadable, Decrypter will likely have a problem.

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Spamlover

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I'm viewing the movies on a standalone Panasonic RP-56 that I bought approx. 2 1/2 years ago.
That just might be your problem. Burners haven't been around very long and as a result the older the standalone player the more likley it is that it won't be compatible with burned DVDs(DVDR+/-). Try it in a player that was made within (not sold) in the past two years and you'll find that the more recent it is the more compatible it is. The good news is that the price of DVD players have come down a lot recently.


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14. October 2004 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a dumb question about Rebuilder and CCE. I've used Rebuilder+CCE for the first time and 95% of the way through the encoding process the program started spitting out at a very fast pace many 35Kb M2v files. This went on for some time. Is this normal?? The working directory already had some M2v files but of a much larger file size. I finally stopped the operation thinking rebuilder went into some kind of endless loop.

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14. October 2004 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The structure of some DVDs causes DVD-RB to create a lot of very small segments. It's not guaranteed that this is what happened, but it's possible. You should start by trying to play 1 or 2 of the small M2V files. If you determine that there's something wrong with them you should check the "source" files. For each M2V file there should be another file with an AVS extension. These are the AviSynth scripts that frameserve the video to CCE, and you can play them in a media player. If you try playing them in Windows Media Player and it doesn't recognize the file type (I've seen this but don't know what causes it as it should see them as AVI files) you can download Media Player Classic and it should play them.

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jdobbs
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14. October 2004 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You probably ran into an area that had a lot of stills (you see that a lot in VTSs containing extras) -- its normal.
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14. October 2004 @ 18:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What's the situation with Avisynth 2.5.5? Because I've been getting flawless results with RB/CE+Avisynth 2.5.4 I've been reluctant to switch to 2.5.5. Has anyone run into problems using the latest version?
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14. October 2004 @ 18:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been using it for a while and haven't had any problems.

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15. October 2004 @ 01:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Was there any type of improvement from the 2.5.4 to the 2.5.5?

By the way, I finally stopped having that weird problem of being stuck on one drive or get 0003. I'm happy to say I have good news. Somewhere down the line my multiple drive problem has been solved. You may remember that for some unexplained reason, I had to have all the program folders on one drive or the program locked in the rebuild stage with the 0003 Overflow error. A version or so back, I tried again with the same result. I just did a reformat and with the new setup and the improved .63 version I decided to try multiple HDs again. It worked this time.

The only changes were a partition to the C drive which now reads as C and D. The large 250 GB WD drive is now the Primary and the 80 GB WD is now E. The program was on C, the source on E and the working file on D. The OS is the XP via XP Pro and the SP2. The program worked flawlessly and I got an excellent backup at 4.34 GB in size. That was with GoldenEye with all extras from the Collector's Edition. Now I'm an even happier camper than before. I believe the program authoring by jdobbs probably has more to do with my final success than any of the changes I made. Now if multi angle support is incorporated, I can "have my cake and eat it to".

Thanks jdobbs for such a good app and to those who helped me get it going.

'Brobear'





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15. October 2004 @ 01:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've got a question. Why run a finished RB file through a transcoder program to burn? Most of the burning ROMs are the best solution. I use Nero Express as my favorite.

'Brobear'





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15. October 2004 @ 02:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Me too!;>)


GO VOLS !
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15. October 2004 @ 22:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Me too!;>)

Me too!;>)

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Hmmm.... what happened to the good looking demon?


GO VOLS !

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15. October 2004 @ 22:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why thank you bigo, orange you kind.

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17. October 2004 @ 02:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Guys

I have been trying to back up my copy of band of brothers dvd. There are six discs, each has two episodes on.Discs 5 & 6 don't seem to copy properly, one episode on each comes out grainy, the first on disc 5 and the second on disc 6. I am using CCE SP 2.5, rebuilder 0.54 and Nero 6.3.1.2. I havn't had any problems until now. I did have xp service pack 2 on, but I have removed that. I copied the dvds onto my hard drive using dycrypter and they played ok on there, they seem to go grainy when I compress them.
I tried the original dvd through shrink but it came up with an error saying invalid dvd navigation structure. Could it be the original dvd are corrupt? Though like I said they do play ok on my dvd player and through the dycrypter files on my hard drive (which are about 7.5gig). Any ideas?
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mccoy5
First of all post a copy of your Configuration Settings folder. It opens in Notepad so just copy and post. Put Xs for any material that links to you personally, don't delete any files or supply an incomplete file. This is for checking your structure which lets us know a lot of how the app can function.

BTW, you should be upgrading your programs as much as possible. At least the latest version of rebuilder should be in use. Plus, what version of AviSynth are you using and what version of the mpeg plugin?

'Brobear'





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17. October 2004 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@mccoy5

You wouldn't have "Steal Space from Extras" selected would you? That would do exactly what you've indicated. DVD-RB assumes the largest VTS is the movie and all others are extras. On series discs that could lead to low bitrates for all but one (or two) of the episodes.
 
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