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26. April 2010 @ 23:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will,
I would but I haven't figured out how to do it yet. I can't find personal messages either! LOL! Why is it these hotshots today have to change everything, just for the sake of change, when there's no need! New software is supposed to be easier, not harder! Notice you have no problems connecting to a Social Network though!

Where do you find the place to go to make changes in your sig, or for that matter, where do you go to send a new PM?

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
I would but I haven't figured out how to do it yet. I can't find personal messages either! LOL! Why is it these hotshots today have to change everything, just for the sake of change, when there's no need! New software is supposed to be easier, not harder! Notice you have no problems connecting to a Social Network though!

Where do you find the place to go to make changes in your sig, or for that matter, where do you go to send a new PM?

Russ
Russ... click on the person's "nick" and see what "options" you get. ;) Go to the "top" of the page and see what you have there. ;) It should be to the RIGHT of your logged in screen "nick". :D

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
I would but I haven't figured out how to do it yet. I can't find personal messages either! LOL! Why is it these hotshots today have to change everything, just for the sake of change, when there's no need! New software is supposed to be easier, not harder! Notice you have no problems connecting to a Social Network though!

Where do you find the place to go to make changes in your sig, or for that matter, where do you go to send a new PM?

Russ
Click on setting at the Top of the page between (logout) and Private Messages and look to the left and you will see edit setting click on that to change your sig to send a private message do what greensman said put your mouse arrow near the person (nic name) and you'll see a drop down arrow show up and you send a message from there...:)

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greensman & bigwill68,
Thanks guys! A simple "Common Sense" thing like an index, would have made doing it an easy thing, but that would be "Old Fashioned"! Shame on me! Oh, I don't text either! ROFLMSOAO!

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LOL! I had to look myself. I just passed the arrow over a few things, then clicked on the drop down arrow ;) We all make mistakes every now and again ;)



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The PM system is a bit broken for me as it always says I have one unread message :\

Anyway does anyone know of a way to shutdown a computer based of a temperature (mainly the cpu) besides everest, which tends to crash the computer after a while on it's own? I've tried realtemp with the shutdown.exe file but running that executable doesn't actually do anything lol.

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Originally posted by omegaman7:
LOL! I had to look myself. I just passed the arrow over a few things, then clicked on the drop down arrow ;) We all make mistakes every now and again ;)
NOW hold on... ROFL.. Russ doesn't make mistakes.. he makes uh-oh's... :p

@BigWilly.. looks as tho your little 8400 system is still rocking. :)

@Russ.... been working on some friend's stuff today and trying to build me parents a "new" system. lol. It's NOT fun when the case you bought for them is to damn small for the cpu cooler.... ;( ROFLMAO.... :p

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GM,
I've made plenty of mistakes. You can't learn much meaningful, unless you do! The trick is, not to make the same mistakes over and over again.

With your Folks computer, can you use a smaller cooler, or will you have to get a bigger case?

Russ

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
GM,
I've made plenty of mistakes. You can't learn much meaningful, unless you do! The trick is, not to make the same mistakes over and over again.

With your Folks computer, can you use a smaller cooler, or will you have to get a bigger case?

Russ
It was a micro case and I needed to get a "smaller" cooler to make it work... I said screw that and just used an old case that I had handily available. :D I prolly went OVERBOARD on a cooler for their machine but I'm not gonna be able to work on it much, maybe once a year so I don't want the issue of a dang cooler "blowing" the deal... ROFL. ;)

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hell yea the E8400 is a billy bad AZZ even my CO E8400 is kicking like it did day one. have it a 3.6ghz Up from 3.3ghz it's actually cool as hell running it and the Q9550 at the same time doing a dvd rebuild. yea the Q9550 gets done about 10 mins faster but its cool have 2 one can do this stuff with and get quality result with them... i dont regret getting the E8400 at all....

ok time for the amd stuff. think i might just give this a whirl in a few months once they are out and see what kinda bugs there is if any? might just put I5, I7 to bed without saying good night..lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

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Russ you are right there is no reason to go any faster than i have the Q9550 right now. it is rockin at this speed without any hickups at all. but like everyone else they as i try to get as much as you can out of what you have. yes i would love yo run 4.26ghz every day, but thats not gonna happen with this cpu. maybe a I5 or the new AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz and what ever board supports it. i dont know jack about amd so i couldnt say what board would work..

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
hell yea the E8400 is a billy bad AZZ even my CO E8400 is kicking like it did day one. have it a 3.6ghz Up from 3.3ghz it's actually cool as hell running it and the Q9550 at the same time doing a dvd rebuild. yea the Q9550 gets done about 10 mins faster but its cool have 2 one can do this stuff with and get quality result with them... i dont regret getting the E8400 at all....

ok time for the amd stuff. think i might just give this a whirl in a few months once they are out and see what kinda bugs there is if any? might just put I5, I7 to bed without saying good night..lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

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Russ you are right there is no reason to go any faster than i have the Q9550 right now. it is rockin at this speed without any hickups at all. but like everyone else they as i try to get as much as you can out of what you have. yes i would love yo run 4.26ghz every day, but thats not gonna happen with this cpu. maybe a I5 or the new AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz and what ever board supports it. i dont know jack about amd so i couldnt say what board would work..
Robert I bet there's plenty of mobo's that support the cpu... especially with a BIOS update.. :D

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The AMD thuban cpus were a major disappointment to me if I was seeing straight and the benchmarks I looked at this morning we accurate. Doing a rough price calculation there is almost no reason to get one over an i7 930 with the exception being few tasks and power consumption. I was hoping, maybe foolishly, that they would dethrone intel and bring competition back to the market but that didn't happen :(


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Given that i7s are almost 50% faster per clock, 4 cores versus 6, it's a fair fight :P



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This is about all that I can get out of it at 3.8GHz, 2400MHz NB, 2400 HT. Here's the CPU




Memory speed. Why CPUZ reports the timings as 5-5-5-18 instead of 5-5-5-15, I don't know, but it's set manually to 5-5-5-15 at 1066MHz in the bios setup




CPU math




Memory Bandwidth




Multi Media




SuperPi 1M. Just tweaking the NB and HT Link Frequencies to 2400 gives me a Hyper Transport speed of 4800MHz, and improved the SuperPi 1M to a hair over 18s. The difference between Oman7's benches and mine is so close that you're talking about minor variences in the two CPUs.




I've already posted the temps, and I'm pretty happy with the all around result. I'm going to get the better Noctua 4-Piper to replace the Freezer 64, which, given the sterling performance of the Freezer 64 should eliminate any temperature issues. I have 83cfm in the front, 40cfm in the side for a total air intake of 123cfm. There's about 93CFM of exhaust. The rear fan over-speeds because of the air pressure difference, to about 1360rpm, and everything stays cool. I have to say that judging by these results, positive pressure works better than negative pressure. Given the size and shape of the Noctua, and how close it is to the Freezer 64, it should not have any cooling problems at all. While I could lower the CPU multiplier and increase the CPU Host Frequency and marginally improve the performance, until a bios flash is released that will let the computer recognize PC2-8500, it's not worth the effort or the risk to the parts.

It's fast, runs cool, quiet, and stable as a rock. I wanted 3.8GHz, and I'm getting very good results at that speed. I have no desire at all, to see how much more it can do! I don't care! I got a very good CPU this time, and I have no interest in possibly blowing it up! I don't have to please anyone but myself, and I'm very happy and thankful for what I have to show for my efforts, and I had a lot of fun doing it! What more could I ask for!

Clock On,
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Exactly the same for me. I haven't even bothered clocking my i5 to its limit. I simply chose something that satisfied me for performance and have left it at that. Knowing that even 10% less will be tricky, I see no point in spending so much time over it.
Quite impressed with how cool your 955 runs at that voltage, that's about 160W of CPU power running through a Freezer 64 at a little below max (rated) fan speed.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Exactly the same for me. I haven't even bothered clocking my i5 to its limit. I simply chose something that satisfied me for performance and have left it at that. Knowing that even 10% less will be tricky, I see no point in spending so much time over it.
Quite impressed with how cool your 955 runs at that voltage, that's about 160W of CPU power running through a Freezer 64 at a little below max (rated) fan speed.
Sam,
I couldn't agree more. My overclock is right about 20%, so it should draw roughly about 150w maximum. I expected good results with the Freezer 64, and the thermal performance I got was better than good. I'm still buying the Noctua, but I'm betting right now that I won't need the second fan at all. AMD has changed the specs for the CPU voltage to 1.325-1.50v, but says that a maximum of 1.55v is safe for it. It runs the way I want it to run, and does the things I expected it do at 3.8GHz, and more. I'm more than happy with it!

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At stock 1.25V and running at 1.44V, with a stock TDP of 120W (the 955C3 tends to come in a little under the 125 rating), squaring the increase in Vcore gives 160 - not sure how accurate that is.



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Originally posted by cincyrob:
hell yea the E8400 is a billy bad AZZ even my CO E8400 is kicking like it did day one. have it a 3.6ghz Up from 3.3ghz it's actually cool as hell running it and the Q9550 at the same time doing a dvd rebuild. yea the Q9550 gets done about 10 mins faster but its cool have 2 one can do this stuff with and get quality result with them... i dont regret getting the E8400 at all....

ok time for the amd stuff. think i might just give this a whirl in a few months once they are out and see what kinda bugs there is if any? might just put I5, I7 to bed without saying good night..lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

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Russ you are right there is no reason to go any faster than i have the Q9550 right now. it is rockin at this speed without any hickups at all. but like everyone else they as i try to get as much as you can out of what you have. yes i would love yo run 4.26ghz every day, but thats not gonna happen with this cpu. maybe a I5 or the new AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz and what ever board supports it. i dont know jack about amd so i couldnt say what board would work..
Wow, that is one bad mama jamma!
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The PC i use the most now is my trusty 6yr old Athlon 2800 from back when i lived afloat, it runs Puppy linux (very well indeed) and is virtually silent, but the feeble case fan has never been much good at cooling (admittedly i did put that fan in to make the PC silent). So swapped in a YS Delta fan that was in use in this machine back when this machine was my main PC up to 2007 (ie before my current Q6600) (DVD Rebuilder used to take 5 hours in main movie mode on the Athlon, hence the Delta fan).

The PC case is like the middle one in this piccy ~




Switched machine back on and it sounded like a hurricane!. Moved the fan connector from it's usual molex connection (ie the case fan was always run at top speed) to the mobo header and peace resumed. And of course the fan is now variable speed, which isn't actually annoying (i thought it would be as it's a Delta). I can hear myself breathe again now.



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Good Lawdy Creaky... you trying to get Sammy and Shaaf started on their dang fan expertise again?? lol. ;)

Nice to know that the Delta is a variable fan... makes it reasonable to be close to ye computer. ;)

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that russ not me lol. i cant stand the fan tlak. bores the crap out of me lol



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
that russ not me lol. i cant stand the fan tlak. bores the crap out of me lol
Yeh I know... I was messing about... but Sammy on the other hand LOVES them fans... :D

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I find fan talk interesting when i'm in the right mood, and have money. My next effort will be putting quad 120mm fans on the HAF932 side panel. THAT will help the whole system no doubt. And when I get crossfire setup, it'll no doubt benefit from it ;)



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
that russ not me lol. i cant stand the fan tlak. bores the crap out of me lol
Shaff,
Nope, not me! I'm an airflow specialist! ROFLMSOAO

Russ

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
that russ not me lol. i cant stand the fan tlak. bores the crap out of me lol
Shaff,
Nope, not me! I'm an airflow specialist! ROFLMSOAO

Russ
Full of HOT AIR maybe!!! :p

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