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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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2. May 2010 @ 05:04 |
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If you're looking for simple, reliable liquid cooling,there's nothing much better than the Corsair H50.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010
It's sort of a water cooling "lite" kit. It IS liquid cooling, but is a self-contained closed loop ie no filling, air bleeding, risk of spilling etc. Think of it like a big heatpipe.
Anyhoo yeah it's reasonably priced, ultra simple, and has cooling performance that matches most mid-range liquid setups. I'm almost tempted to get one if I go hexa-core, which is unlikely but on my mind... And besides, it's Corsair and they over-engineer everything so leaks shouldn't even be a passing thought ;P
On another note, I was popping my old Arctic Freezer 7 Pro into a small office PC for my friend. Guess one of the heatpipes ruptured because it had a little accident all over the board. Poor thing, so many years of faithful service only to die on its way to its final home :( The PC was fine though after everything dried off so no worries there :P
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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2. May 2010 @ 07:49 |
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Maw: What you're running into there is 'minimum load'. With almost no current at all coming from a PSU it will not function. A lot of modern PSUs don't have this requirement, but simpler units often do.
Omega: If in doubt, Corsair H50, but it's no champion among coolers. You can get far, far better results from a bespoke WC kit, but of course, they're very prone to leaks, and cost typically $300-$400 or so.
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2. May 2010 @ 09:18 |
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Does the Motherboard have to be hooked up to the power supply. Or can you just hook up secondary items like DVD Drive in order 4 it to run
I've got a power supply tester, that U can hook-up individual lines or all of them to test. This allows the power supply to run
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2. May 2010 @ 09:54 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Just saw it Omega, but nice going on 3.9GHz!!! Very nice OC. Same to you as well Russ. Great job on 3.82GHz. Glad to see you guys are cranking 'em up. lol. I can boot and IBT 30 minutes stable at 3.8 w/ 1.55v which AFAIK is safe but gets a bit too toasty for my liking... These older Phenom IIs suck voltage like crazy! I might be tempted to sell mine off in favor of a second hand 955 guaranteed to 3.9 with reasonable volts(~1.45v).
Estuansis,
Thanks! I love how people guarantee things like that. LOL!! Especially since it's only going to get to 3.9 on a good motherboard! :0) Mine runs out of CPU Cooler at 3.9GHz! LOL!! Got to get the Noctua!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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2. May 2010 @ 10:26 |
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Just to show that it will do it, here's some screens at 3.9GHz
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It's pretty cool this morning, but I still have one eye on the temps! LOL!! I didn't do any tweaking at all, just bumped the multiplier up to 19.5. I'll be setting it back to 3.8 in a few minutes.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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2. May 2010 @ 13:53 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Well...I have 2 400w's, a 550W, and a 750W corsair. All of them are rock solid. Well, they're not all mine :p But they have seen my hands LOL! Until I experience a problem, corsair will be my first pick when it comes to PSU's. Although Sea sonic is incredible too. Of course I think THEY make Corsairs power supplies ;) My brothers HTPC has a sea sonic PSU in it. Seems to be solid as well. Glad I elected to buy that bad boy.
It's not a bad psu, I just need it to run without a MB for my WC setup.
Originally posted by omegaman7:
If anybody has some fancy dancy water coolers to present to me, I'm all ears LOL! Seriously though, I haven't done a lot of searching on water coolers. What IS the champion in that respect? Hopefully under 100$??? And darn NEAR guaranteed to not leak. I realize that's a risk with such technology, but it should be RARE!
For a decent cpu only loop count on at least 300$ (mine is closer to 450$, but I overbuilt it a bit).
Originally posted by Estuansis:
If you're looking for simple, reliable liquid cooling,there's nothing much better than the Corsair H50.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010
It's sort of a water cooling "lite" kit. It IS liquid cooling, but is a self-contained closed loop ie no filling, air bleeding, risk of spilling etc. Think of it like a big heatpipe.
Anyhoo yeah it's reasonably priced, ultra simple, and has cooling performance that matches most mid-range liquid setups. I'm almost tempted to get one if I go hexa-core, which is unlikely but on my mind... And besides, it's Corsair and they over-engineer everything so leaks shouldn't even be a passing thought ;P
I've heard that the H50 is only as good a as high end air cooler, and based off what I know of it I would consider it a low end water cooler since it only has a single 120mm rad. It's hard to speak against the H50 too much since it's so cheap but I would strongly recommend saving up for a "proper" WC setup as it's so much more flexible and powerful.
Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: If in doubt, Corsair H50, but it's no champion among coolers. You can get far, far better results from a bespoke WC kit, but of course, they're very prone to leaks, and cost typically $300-$400 or so.
I don't think it's fair to say WC is very prone to leaks. Sure it's a risk but a small one imo, and can generally be avoided with proper equipment. A good barb and worm drive clamp is quite secure but a lot of people go with other, less secure, methods since they look better which leads to an increased likely hood of leaks (don't forget it's the people with leaks who are generally the most vocal).
Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: What you're running into there is 'minimum load'. With almost no current at all coming from a PSU it will not function. A lot of modern PSUs don't have this requirement, but simpler units often do.
Was afraid it'd be something like that, would you happen to know of any psu's without minimum load?
Thanks,
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2. May 2010 @ 13:53 |
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Thanks guys. I've actually been eyeing the H50 corsair. Based on reviews and what I've read elsewhere, it appears to be very midrange. I was hoping for more of a serious impact on temperatures. No, not like liquid nitrogen impact :p But notable differences ;) Perhaps I am looking at spending a pretty penny...
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2. May 2010 @ 14:54 |
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Maw: typically, loading the 12V is enough to cure it, and most Corsairs don't even have the issue at all. The H50 is slightly better than the best top-end air cooler, and quieter, but not much better, is all. Since it can only cool the CPU and nothing else, only having a 120mm rad is no issue.
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2. May 2010 @ 14:54 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks guys. I've actually been eyeing the H50 corsair. Based on reviews and what I've read elsewhere, it appears to be very midrange. I was hoping for more of a serious impact on temperatures. No, not like liquid nitrogen impact :p But notable differences ;) Perhaps I am looking at spending a pretty penny...
Oman7,
The radiator is too small for heavy duty overclocking on a regular basis. To be more effective, the Rad needs to be bigger! Every review I read said the same thing.
No comment on my 3.9 and SuperPi? I'm disappointed! LOL!!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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Red_Maw
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2. May 2010 @ 15:17 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks guys. I've actually been eyeing the H50 corsair. Based on reviews and what I've read elsewhere, it appears to be very midrange. I was hoping for more of a serious impact on temperatures. No, not like liquid nitrogen impact :p But notable differences ;) Perhaps I am looking at spending a pretty penny...
A pretty penny it will be too lol.
I'll let you guy's know in a week or two if my WC investment pays off.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Oman7,
The radiator is too small for heavy duty overclocking on a regular basis. To be more effective, the Rad needs to be bigger! Every review I read said the same thing.
No comment on my 3.9 and SuperPi? I'm disappointed! LOL!!
Russ
Exactly the problem with the H50, most people want a 2x120mm rad for the cpu and than a triple or quad for the gpu's.
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I haven't run the single threaded superpi in a long time so I have no idea what that score means lol.
Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: typically, loading the 12V is enough to cure it, and most Corsairs don't even have the issue at all. The H50 is slightly better than the best top-end air cooler, and quieter, but not much better, is all. Since it can only cool the CPU and nothing else, only having a 120mm rad is no issue.
Thanks sam; guess I'll be returning the CM psu for a corsair one :\
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2. May 2010 @ 15:18 |
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I'm sorry russ. Congrats. But you're not keeping it there? I suppose the difference between 3.8 and 3.9 is marginal at best anyway ;)
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2. May 2010 @ 16:04 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'm sorry russ. Congrats. But you're not keeping it there? I suppose the difference between 3.8 and 3.9 is marginal at best anyway ;)
Oman7,
I may with a better cooler, if it stays cool enough. I'm under 1.50v, and well short of the safe limit of 1.55v! I have to wait a few days before I can order the Noctua. I have checks that haven cleared yet.
The difference between 3.8 and 3.9 isn't a lot, but you can see the difference, as it's very snappy! Makes a pretty good difference in SuperPi too.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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2. May 2010 @ 16:44 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks guys. I've actually been eyeing the H50 corsair. Based on reviews and what I've read elsewhere, it appears to be very midrange. I was hoping for more of a serious impact on temperatures. No, not like liquid nitrogen impact :p But notable differences ;) Perhaps I am looking at spending a pretty penny...
Oman7,
The radiator is too small for heavy duty overclocking on a regular basis. To be more effective, the Rad needs to be bigger! Every review I read said the same thing.
No comment on my 3.9 and SuperPi? I'm disappointed! LOL!!
Russ
I don't see that test as anything but an Intel progie for the masses... sorry but I can smoke your SuperPi scores with me old E6850 running @ 3.6GhZ. ;)
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2. May 2010 @ 17:10 |
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You said it gm. More or less, Super pi is intel biased. Rather F--ked up, but true :(
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2. May 2010 @ 17:22 |
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thats the problem i have with it. i wish the rad a a lot thicker. mayeb my another 1cm or so, but then it would fit over my 24pin connector on my mobo and i wouldnt be able to connect it in.
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2. May 2010 @ 17:24 |
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It's that thick so it can fit in a standard fan bay. As you see, 'lesser' cases would have trouble fitting something bigger :P
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2. May 2010 @ 17:27 |
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i have a VF1000 copper zalman cooler and on the lowest fan settig never goes over 60C, but its my second card, though unless im at 100% fanspeed on my sapphire 4870 (my top card) itll hit 100c even in cod2 :(
shoudl i get another zalman, for it, or is there a better cooler? (mind you it should take up 2 slots MAX, as i have a uATX case/mobo and using both pcie slots is max i can use as it uses all 4 slots on the case/mobo.
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2. May 2010 @ 17:30 |
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T-Rad2 with a pair of high speed fans?
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2. May 2010 @ 17:30 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It's that thick so it can fit in a standard fan bay. As you see, 'lesser' cases would have trouble fitting something bigger :P
:( so true lol. its one of the better uatx cases, perfect lan case (well bar the min ITX cases) and yet it JUST abotu fits it.
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2. May 2010 @ 17:30 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
T-Rad2 with a pair of high speed fans?
trad would fit, but not with any fans on it. i only have 2 slots to work with.
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2. May 2010 @ 17:31 |
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duplicate psot
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2. May 2010 @ 17:31 |
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Wow, triple post lOL! You downloading Shaff :P
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2. May 2010 @ 17:51 |
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No, T-Rad is a single slot cooler.
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2. May 2010 @ 18:00 |
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2. May 2010 @ 18:03 |
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You're meant to use 15mm thick fans :P - As for it being used passively, yes, but you won't see much better temps than with the Sapphire cooler I don't expect, airflow must be chronic in your case to get the sort of temps you do, Sapphire's coolers are pretty good.
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