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PS3 compatible video creation thread (tsMuxeR etc.).
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1. March 2009 @ 13:14 |
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Originally posted by alcOre:
If it doesn't fit on a DL DVD right now you'd have to re-encode either the video or the audio to make the size of the mkv smaller.
PS...more likely would be better to re-encode the video track...
thanks for the reply is there a guide to re-encode the video track>?
is there any way in converting without the annoying green bottom.
thanks
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16. March 2009 @ 10:30 |
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OK guys, I have an issue with making PS3 Compatible AVCHD discs, which I need to discuss ..
This issue is quite complex, so Ryu and Odin, here is your exam problem :) ..
When I want to convert an MKV into a PS3 Compatible AVCHD, I follow the following steps:
1) Split the MKV into multiple smaller MKVs (if needed) so that each is 4.37 GB or less.
2) Then I re-encode each MKV into a PS3 compatible .264 file.
3) I take these .264 files and then make AVCHD DVDs ..
Now for the problem:
Sometimes, the following two problems come up:
1) The movie duration of the resulting AVCHD disc if *NOT* correct. It is a lot higher than what it should be ... For me, its normally 13 hours or so ..
2) The first subtitle track (normally English) would NOT display. It would be available in the subtitle track options, but if you select it, it would not diplay. The second, third, and all other subtitle tracks, WOULD display. Only the very first track would not.
OK, also please note the following two facts:
1) The above two problems ALWAYS happen together for me. I have not seen a case where only any one of the above applies, and the other does not. They always happen together for some reason.
2) Also, the above problems always occur in the AVCHD disc generated from the very last MKV sub-part (look at step 1 above). That is, lets if I had broken a 13 GB MKV file into 4 smaller MKVs. Now the above problems would ONLY happen in the part 4 (last one) MKV, and not in the first three parts. If an MKV was broken into two parts, this problem would happen in the second part's AVCHD disc.
3) Lastly, this problem occurs in like 1 in every 15 or so movie conversions for me. I have like 55 or so HD movies so far, and this problem has happened in the last parts for three movies so far: Kung Fu Panda, Ghost Rider, and The Dark Knight ...
Does anyone know why these two problems occur ???
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16. March 2009 @ 12:24 |
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It could be the time stamps on the subs are getting confused. At the halfway point of the movie they might be at approx 1 hour or so, however when you start the second AVCHD DVD the player's counter starts at zero... and not where left off on the first disc.
One way to verify this is once the second disc is muxed with subs, demux it and see where the time stamps are.... if they are still at eg. 01:01:03.000.. indicating (HH:MM:SS.ms), that is your probem.
If this is the case, you need to use Subtitle Workshop and make the subs come on early... exactly the runtime of the first disc early.
That's my guess.
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16. March 2009 @ 13:55 |
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Thanx for the reply odin .. I have already tried re-compiling the disc without including the SRT files (so that tsmuxer only has the .264 file and the audio file as inputs), and still the problem is there ..
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16. March 2009 @ 14:26 |
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Once your inital muxing is complete, try remuxing the last portion cutting the first few milliseconds, you'll need to use the Split/Cut function. I heard somewhere (I cannot remember where) that tsMuxeR may create a bad stream on the last cut.
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16. March 2009 @ 15:24 |
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is there a way in shrinking 8.34gb file to burn onto a 8.5gb disk?
250gb ps3 non modded and 60gb launch model 3.55cfw
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16. March 2009 @ 15:41 |
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Originally posted by 07anto07:
is there a way in shrinking 8.34gb file to burn onto a 8.5gb disk?
Are you burninng the actual mkv... or are you talking about m2ts/Blu-ray for PS3/standalone compatibility?
You could transcode the audio to a lower bitrate, eg DTS to AC3... this could save up to 1GB... usually 500mb.
Or, cut the beginning/end credits...
Or recode the whole video to a predetermined fle size to fit exactly on a DVD9.
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16. March 2009 @ 16:43 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by 07anto07:
is there a way in shrinking 8.34gb file to burn onto a 8.5gb disk?
Are you burninng the actual mkv... or are you talking about m2ts/Blu-ray for PS3/standalone compatibility?
You could transcode the audio to a lower bitrate, eg DTS to AC3... this could save up to 1GB... usually 500mb.
Or, cut the beginning/end credits...
Or recode the whole video to a predetermined fle size to fit exactly on a DVD9.
m2ts/Blu-ray for PS3/standalone compatibility
250gb ps3 non modded and 60gb launch model 3.55cfw
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16. March 2009 @ 16:51 |
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I suggest recoding (shrink) the whole mkv, the process takes a while too, depending on how powerful your PC is.
I use MeGUI/AviSynth to recode by BD rips to fit on a DVD9... with a good profile the movie ends up great. It's a little technical, but easy enough to use once you are familiar with the process.
For beginners I'd suggest Ripbot264, it more of a one/two click solution... however I've never used it.
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16. March 2009 @ 16:58 |
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thanks again i will take a look :) keep getting error that ffdshow did not install i do have ffdshow on my pc
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16. March 2009 @ 17:43 |
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17. March 2009 @ 06:33 |
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ok odin, thanx for the help man .. I tried what you told me (use the cut option in tsMuxer), and it worked brilliantly !! :D ... The duration was 38:42, and I had tsmuxer cut it at 38:39 .. the total movie duration in the resulting AVCHD is now correct !! :D
But the second problem is still there .. the english subtitles still don't display .. i tried inserting the english subtitles twice now (first and second subtitle tracks both english now, with the third, fourth ones following) ... both the first and second subtitles tracks are not showing up ... third and onwards still show up (non-english subs)
I tried scanning the english subtitle track SRT file through Subtitle Workhshop 2.51, and tried finding any errors .. there were no significant errors ...
any suggestions ?
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17. March 2009 @ 06:37 |
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17. March 2009 @ 06:50 |
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Is this a portion of the subtitle... if so what portion, 1.. 2.. 3, or is it the whole movie?
Have you tried muxing/splitting to m2ts first, then remuxing each individual portion to Blu-ray?
When you get time, could you mux a subtitle track that you need to split... then demux each subtitle and upload them. When you demux they will be .sup, not .srt.
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18. March 2009 @ 04:22 |
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Thanx for your assistance odin :)
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Is this a portion of the subtitle... if so what portion, 1.. 2.. 3, or is it the whole movie?
This subtitle file was from the last part of 4 sub-MKVs (i.e. it was the fourth part) ..
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Have you tried muxing/splitting to m2ts first, then remuxing each individual portion to Blu-ray?
So you are saying I follow the following steps through tsMuxer ?
.264 + audio + subs >> m2ts >> Bluray
I have not tried this yet though .. will it be of any use ?
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When you get time, could you mux a subtitle track that you need to split... then demux each subtitle and upload them. When you demux they will be .sup, not .srt.
Um sure, but I need a little help here .. mux just the fourth part of the english subtitle track, or the entire english subtitle track ? .. and mux it into what format ? MKV, M2TS, etc .. which one ? .. And how do I demux it afterwards ?
Sorry, I'm still a n00b at most of this stuff :P
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18. March 2009 @ 06:03 |
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OK odin, got an update ... I tried doing the mux/demux thing you asked .. Specifically, I did this through tsMuxer:
.264 + audio + 7-8 SRT sub files >> m2ts file >> demux first two subtitle tracks (English and Danish) (these are SUP files)
Result:
The strange thing is, the English subtitle track SUP file is *very* small, only 455 bytes ?!?!
The Danish subtitle track SUP file is about 4.5 MB ..
I have uploaded both for you:
English subtitle SUP file: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/8/18....track_4608.sup
Danish subtitle SUP file: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/8/18....track_4609.sup
Any clues to what is the problem here ? Why is English SUP file so small ?
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18. March 2009 @ 07:35 |
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The English track is an invalid one, that's why it's not playing... not sure whow it got that way.
Maybe try using the latest version of tsMuxeR, maybe some of these bugs have been fixed.
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.34(b).zip
If there is no GUI with it, just place the new tsMuxeR.exe in the same folder as the old GUI... replacing the old tsMuxeR.exe
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19. March 2009 @ 05:55 |
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Alright odin, I investigated the matter a little more, and this is what I found ... You remember you told me to use that split/cut feature in tsMuxeR to correct the duration of the AVCHD movie ? .... Well, from what I found out, this is what is causing the English subtitles to be invalid ... If I DO NOT use the split/cut feature, then the size of English subtitle SUP is normal (4.7MB) .. I even opened it in SUPread, and the subtitle images were there. However, even though the English Subtitle SUP file is sufficiently sized now, the english subtitles would STILL NOT show up during movie playback ?!
I tried the above experiment with the English and Danish subtitles. If split/cut in tsMuxer WAS used, the English SUP file would is only 455 bytes big, and the Danish SUP would be about 4.5MB ... If the split/cut was NOT used, the both were around 4.5 MB ..
I have uploaded the SUP files when split/cut in tsMuxer was NOT used ..
English: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/8/18....track_4608.sup
Danish: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/8/18....track_4609.sup
Is there any tool available which can maybe check a SUP file for any errors ? .. Because from the above two SUP files, the Danish one is OK, but there is some problem with the English one, which causes it to not show up during movie playback ..
Need help for you Odin ..
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19. March 2009 @ 16:00 |
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I just tried the english sup out myself... no luck. It might have something to do with the srt's font style.. i.e. the italics were show in the .srt as <i> </i>, this may be why it's not working. Try openin the original srt in Subtitle Workshop, and either change the font to normal... or open in notepad and remove all of the <i></i>'s, then use Edit --> Font --> and change to Italics that way.
This is just a stretch, I really have no idea why it's not working.
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19. March 2009 @ 19:07 |
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Hey, odin, I was checking out the AVCHD Manager thread over on doom9, but I could never figure out an answer for this.
I'm sure someone else asked this way back when (in fact, I remember something like that, but I just can't remember who exactly), but anyway, is there a way for AVCHD Manager or the PS3 to recognize more than one AVCHD folder? I know you can put more than one movie on there at a time, but I want to watch all the videos straight through (and not have to plug the drive back into the PC to choose another default folder).
I've got a 24- and a 13-episode anime that I'm trying to mux to AVCHD to play on my PS3. Both are standard-def (the 24-episode one's 640x480, the 13-episode one's 704x480); will they work okay in an AVCHD folder?
I could just hardsub the whole thing and mux to .m2ts, but I'd rather not go through a lengthy re-encoding process. (If I could do it on my quad-core, I wouldn't complain, but I'm stuck with the P4 right now.)
Anyway. Any help on that issue?
Summary:
1.) Do 480p videos work okay with AVCHD?
2.) Any way to get the PS3 to recognize more than one AVCHD folder?
Thanks again.
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19. March 2009 @ 19:44 |
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Originally posted by KajNrig:
Hey, odin, I was checking out the AVCHD Manager thread over on doom9, but I could never figure out an answer for this.
I'm sure someone else asked this way back when (in fact, I remember something like that, but I just can't remember who exactly), but anyway, is there a way for AVCHD Manager or the PS3 to recognize more than one AVCHD folder? I know you can put more than one movie on there at a time, but I want to watch all the videos straight through (and not have to plug the drive back into the PC to choose another default folder).
I've got a 24- and a 13-episode anime that I'm trying to mux to AVCHD to play on my PS3. Both are standard-def (the 24-episode one's 640x480, the 13-episode one's 704x480); will they work okay in an AVCHD folder?
I could just hardsub the whole thing and mux to .m2ts, but I'd rather not go through a lengthy re-encoding process. (If I could do it on my quad-core, I wouldn't complain, but I'm stuck with the P4 right now.)
Anyway. Any help on that issue?
Summary:
1.) Do 480p videos work okay with AVCHD?
Yes 480p works, however I'm not sure how 640x480 will go, usually the proper res is 720x480. There is two options in the "Video" tab; "Apply Compliant height..." and "Force Black fill...", make sur those are checked. Otherwise the picture may be distorted and subs will not play.
2.) Any way to get the PS3 to recognize more than one AVCHD folder?
Absolutely, in the first tab you have the option to add file, or AVCHD folder, load your first one, close the pop up, then add the next... and so on. I was just experimenting with this the other day. I just sold my HDDVD versions of the first 4 Harry Potters... I converted to BD, kept the TrueHD and placed two each on one BD-R... with custom menus and original chapters, it's pretty sweet.
I suggest you experiment before you burn anyting, there are a few different types of menus.
Thanks again.
See my comments above.
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20. March 2009 @ 12:52 |
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Okay... odin, I ran into some problems.
First I just converted the audio from AAC to AC3 (Does tsMuxer not support AAC? I know the PS3 does, but tsMuxer always gets that "Some tracks were ignored" pop-up.) and the subs from ASS to SRT and remuxed everything and it went okay.
...except I got no video (black screen with audio playing). I figured it was probably the resolution thing you were talking about, so I wrote an Avisynth script adding borders.
Loaded it up in MeGUI, it said something like: "DirectShowSource doesn't recognize the video track. This filetype is not supported." That's odd, considering it's just an h264 track.
Oh, well. I figured I'd just go the direct stream route. Demuxed the video, created a DGA workpath, and wrote another Avisynth script, this time with the h264 track as the video. Cool, everything works out.
...except that for some reason, DGAIndex saw the h264 video as 29.97 FPS. I realized this when I muxed everything together again and everything was just off. I assumed the FPS was 23.967.
So I went into Notepad, wrote this script (deciding I'd just hardsub and mux it to .m2ts):
LoadPlugin("C:/...path.../DGAVCDecode.dll")
AVCSource("C:/...path.../video.dga")
AssumeFPS(24000,1001) ### For some reason, "ntsc_film" did absolutely nothing
LoadPlugin("C:/...path.../vsfilter.dll")
TextSub("C:/...path.../subtitles.ass") ### I also tried the SRT version
Loaded it up in MeGUI... and the subs are all off. Bummer. What was the issue, then?
I checked the number of frames (32,989) and the length of time (0:22:49), and the framerate seemed to be... 32989 frames/1369 seconds = 24.09xxx FPS.
...what?
Well, I tried using that ratio in "AssumeFPS" instead of "24000,1001", and everything seemed okay... but it actually wasn't. In some places the subs were just horribly off, and in others, they were spot-on.
So I've had a really hard time trying to figure out the framerate of this thing. I'm now thinking that it's VFR.
If that's the case, then how would I go about working with it? It's irritating the HELL out of me.
By the way, just to be clear, I'm not bothering with AVCHD anymore. I'm just gonna hardsub it and go straight to .m2ts.
Thanks again.
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20. March 2009 @ 16:39 |
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Holy cow... looks like you're havin fun! What's the source of the video... HDTV rip, BD rips? HDTV... the source is most likely 29.97fps... or even 59.98fps, unlikely though.
I have no experience hard subbing... I tried once and failed miserably... it was an HDTV rip, no matter what I tried everything was fine at the start and it slowly unravelled towards the end... audio and subs were out of sync. I think it may have something to do with how anime is framed, maybe the VFR issue... who knows. I cannot be certain though.
I wish I could be more help. Maybe ask around in the Doom9 forums, alot of smart people over there.
Good luck.
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21. March 2009 @ 01:37 |
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Yeah, it's because it's anime, and anime frickin' sucks now. In the past day, I learned all this great and wonderful and really worthless info about how some anime shots only have a few frames per second and are telecined or whatever to whatever framerate is desired, whereas the more high-quality shots are animated at a full 24 FPS and blah blah blah.
But no worries. All I had to do, duh me, was get the latest Avisynth and BAM! DirectShowSource worked fine.
I forced the framerate to a steady 23.976 (as it turned out, the opening was shot at 29.97 FPS and the rest was at 23.976) and Avisynth did the rest:
DirectShowSource("C:/...path.../movie.mkv",fps=23.976,convertfps=true)
LoadPlugin("C:/...path.../vsfilter.dll")
TextSub("C:/...path.../subtitles.ass")
I don't know the specifics of what Avisynth did, but everything came out to a nice constant framerate that synced perfectly with audio and subs, so I was a happy camper.
So all I had to do was update Avisynth. Figure that.
Anyway, thanks a lot, odin.
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21. March 2009 @ 07:17 |
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Well... good to see to worked out. BTW, where are you from?
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