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Gnomex
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_ 		22. April 2005 @ 19:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD remake works well with DVD-RB for the most part. However, over editing VOBs with such tools is dangerous. Edit what needs to be edited, let DVD-RB do what it does best.
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squizzle
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_ 		22. April 2005 @ 23:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Decrypter will allow you to just rip the movie if you want. Check bbmayo's guide on how to do that.

If this has been said before, I apologize. I just couldn't bring myself to read 77 pages of posts.
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Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
callous
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_ 		23. April 2005 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The latest DVD-RB Pro version (0.86beta) now allows you to do "Movie Only". I'm about to give it a go. Thanks jdobbs!
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jdobbs
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_ 		23. April 2005 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@callous

There wre enough people asking that I thought I'd better add it. No sense making people resort to "tips and tricks" to get a movie-only encode.

While you're at it you may want to download Hank315's latest HC encoder. It is truly impressive and getting better. The new versions are faster and now using DVD-RB you can do a high-quality OPV encode (something you once could only do with CCE SP)! You can get it here:

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Encoders/MPEG2/HC_014.zip

Cheers!
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jaehomo
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_ 		24. April 2005 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I get the error "Illegal source. Missing VTS_1. Aborting."

Obviously, DVD rebuilder wants the whole file structure. I just want to back up the main move (VTS_7). Is there a way I can do this? I don't want to use DVD Shrink or a similar tool because I want to compress it with CCE.
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jdobbs
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_ 		24. April 2005 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes. Donate and get the Pro version...
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callous
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_ 		24. April 2005 @ 08:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@jdobbs

Thanks for the tip/recommendation regarding the HC encoder from hank315. I'm trying my first OPV encode using HC v0.14. My first encodes using HC v0.13 (2 pass VBR) exceeded my expectations. Up until recently, I have used nothing but CCE Basic v2.69 but Hank315 is giving it a run for the money. HC is a bit slower than CCE but he is making great improvements in this area as well (quality of encode is very good).
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Ppower
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_ 		24. April 2005 @ 21:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone backed up a movie with 0.86Pro movie only. I've never had problems before now all I get is run-time error #9
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jdobbs
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Edit your REBUILDER.INI file. More than likely the SOURCE (or WORKING) directory is pointing to a place that doesn't exist or is unreachable.
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jdobbs
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 05:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Ppower

At what point to you get the runtime errors? Is it immediately after starting, during the encode, at rebuild?

I'd like to help, but I need a little more information.
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Ppower
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 06:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been getting run-time errors during the re-build. I've now tried 7 movies with movie only mode and the re-build gets to 100% but then says updating Navpacks for Vobid 03, I get the run-time error. I've never had a problem before updating to 0.86Pro
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jdobbs
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 07:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmmm... I haven't seen that happen... I'll do some more testing. Anything peculiar about your setup?

Also, can you give me an NTSC title that will consistently cause the error. I'll go purchase it and run the test.

As for never having problems before 0.86 Pro... there has never been a movie-only mode until v0.86 so it would have been difficult to have a movie-only error. Remember -- this is beta software. It is in its debugging stage until version 1.00... that's the only reason I allow these errors to show. They flag other things, usually in the source, that can cause problems. Then I can adjust so it can handle all situations.

Thanks.
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Ppower
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try the movie Solaris or The Sum Of All Fears. My setup is very straightforward I'm using CCE Basic 2.70.01.02
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dlc2000
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 08:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@jdobbs ,

i donated to rebuilder over the weekend and just wanted to say im quite impressed with this pro version and cce basic . these are some of the highest quality backups i have ever done .

i have had the same problem with it failing when updating the navpacks but only when doing the main movie only . if i do the entire dvd i get no failure . its quite strange that it will do the whole disc but doesnt like to do just the main movie some times . its not all the time or anything but it happened to me a couple of times over the weekend when i was trying out the pro version .
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jdobbs
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 09:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That whole section of code is all new, there's bound to be a couple of bugs... I'm going to pick up Sum of All Fears and give it a test.

When DVD-RB does the entire DVD it can take the original IFO structures and just update pointers, etc... but when it creates a movie-only DVD it has to create the structure from scratch.
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jdobbs
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 10:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Ppower & dlc2000

I found the error. It was variable initialization error. It caused Movie-Only mode to fail during REBUILD on any source where the main movie is not found in VTS_01. I'm amazed I didn't catch this before I sent it out...

You should get an update notice with a link to the fixed version later today.
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dlc2000
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thankyou very much . i will continue to be impressed with this software . as i said before , the quality of my backups made using this software and cce basic is unmatched by anything else i've tried . thanks again
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Ppower
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 11:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks jdobbs, I look forward to the new release
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squizzle
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm having a little problem. The other day I set up 5 Rebuilder projects to do a batch encode. So far out of the 4 I tried to burn 2 had errors in Nero saying DVD file allocation failed. I'm not sure if this is because of Rebuilder but I've never seen it before. I'm using Rebuilder 0.86 Pro. I know there is a new one, but I haven't tried that one yet. Any ideas?
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Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
dlc2000
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@jdobbs ,

i got my update for the pro version and it seems as the problem with updating the navpacks is now corrected . thanks for the quick update . no other problems as of right now to report .
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squizzle
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_ 		25. April 2005 @ 22:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I got the error on the fifth movie, but I browsed through a couple of them and the 2 I went through all seemed fine, so either it never really was a problem in the first place or IFOEdit fixed them.
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Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
jdobbs
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_ 		26. April 2005 @ 02:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@squizzle

There are some know issues with Nero flagging errors that aren't really there -- just burn it.

Here's an example: If you have an original commercial DVD that has a zero length VTS (no, there is no logic to it, but yes they exist) DVD Rebuilder goes to extremes to make the backup match it as close as possible, so it creates the zero length file in the output directory. Nero will see the zero length file and kick out an error.
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squizzle
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_ 		26. April 2005 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I kinda figured that. Thanks. Nero does get goofy sometimes. So are you saying I shouldn't have to fix the errors with IFOEdit?
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Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html

My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
jdobbs
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_ 		26. April 2005 @ 08:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wouldn't. IFOEdit is a fantastic tool, but sometimes it can be wrong too. Example: Have it create an IFO from a set of DVDs for you. Then run it against itself ("Get VTS Sectors") -- if finds errors in its own output.

Don't get me wrong though, I'd never trash IFOEdit. It is a tool that I have on my desktop and use every day. It's just that no software is perfect.
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Ppower
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_ 		27. April 2005 @ 17:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone backed up Darkness with 0.87aPro movie mode. I've tried it twice both times getting outputs of only 2.88Gb
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