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28. August 2004 @ 09:58 |
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I had never heard of the Mozart effect until now...probably because I'm not in the educational field. From what I gather now, the term was likely coined around 1993...while the effects have been known for some time.
I started listening/collecting baroque right after seeing Ordinary People in 1980...where the theme music was Pachelbel's Canon. About the same time I was also dabbling on the fringes of the New Age movement and holistic health ... which involved biofeedback devices. Alpha waves had been known for their positive effects, as well as certain types of music, and it was then that some folks put it together that listening to barouque music resulted in an alpha wave state. (Alpha waves are credited with all sorts of good things from learning and creativity to good health.). I'm guessing this took seed, became a project of UC-Irvine profs Rauscher and Shaw in 1993, and then others, and is now a part of popular culture as the "Mozart effect." It always helps to have a sound bite to descibe an area of study.
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28. August 2004 @ 10:06 |
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The Mozart effect is supposed to stimulate upper brain function. It's been used prior to testing to improve student test scores. I'm not sure how much I buy into it but I have used it before testing, I figure it can't hurt then why not. I also injoy other barogue artists such as Pacabel and Vivaldi. I find the use of counter point used by baroque artists fascinating and highly complex since the idea is not to create harmonies. Bach could play three separate parts using only two hands. Ineffect hecreated a third part by swapping between his left and right hands.
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28. August 2004 @ 10:39 |
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Being the inventive type, I always like to know the HOW or why something works. It's not enough to just say it does. I'm fairly well satisfied an alpha wave state increases creativity and other cognitive functions, and my experience is that baroque has this affect on me. Depending upon how a student is "wired"... I would think some students would respond to the music with an increase in alpha waves, while others would not.
I've always been in awe of the classical composers. I understand very little about music structure, but I only have to listen to recognize their genius. As you described Bach and the creation of a third part ... that's genius. Also, seeing the movie Amadeus allowed me to appreciate Mozart's genius more. I saw a Discovery program where some people compared Brian Wilson's works and genius to these classicists. This is difficult for me to tell, because I'm sidetracked by the lyrics...which seem rather ordinary.
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28. August 2004 @ 11:10 |
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I sometimes wonder about genius and what it really is, expecially with the recent discussions of multiple intelligences. I'm not sure that I'd classify Brian Wilson in the same category as Mozart but Good Vibrations is one of the greatest rock tunes ever penned. Sometimes the music or lyrics aren't equal. Take Dylan for instance, his lyrics are considered poetic works but his music was never that involved and certainly not equal to his words.
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28. August 2004 @ 11:44 |
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Genius is difficult to define, especially with multiple intelligences. I equate genius to creativity, rather than to raw intelligence...where genius is often used in terms of I.Q. I think when someone does something inventive, and with a deeper understanding, and in a way it hasn't been done before...that's a sign of genius. What Bach did was a good example. Using this as a standard, I, too, would be hard pressed to put Wilson into this category.
In the area of invention, which I'm familiar with, genius often expresses itself by taking a concept in one area, and combining it with a concept from another unrelated area, and coming up with something entirely new, and innovative. I suspect this could apply to music as well. The "Glenn Miller" sound comes to mind. One story has it that it happened by accident, and another says it was intentional ... that Miller "heard" the sound in his mind before putting it together.
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28. August 2004 @ 12:15 |
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Yes Glenn Miller is certainly a talent to be recognized across generations. Mozart too was thought to have completed his works in his head. Reviews of Beethoven's manuscripts reveals revision after revision before he settled on a finished work. And yet his comparative works such as his symphonies and concerto's rivaled or even surpassed those of Mozart's. Both are thought to be genuises but Mozart's genius is more immediate than Beethoven's. It was believed that Mozart could go and listen to a never before heard symphony and then return home and write the symphony's entire score from memory.
Beethoven of course had to imagine his music in his head because of his deafness.
Is it me or have we taken being off topic to a new dimension. LOL
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28. August 2004 @ 12:20 |
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lol. Yeah, a new dimension. The "appropriateness" of our discussion crossed my mind, but the reality is that this thread has likely seen the end of its usefulness with the arrival of Shrink 3.2 and RB-CCE. There isn't much else to be said, is there?
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28. August 2004 @ 12:47 |
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28. August 2004 @ 12:58 |
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Only the Movie!
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28. August 2004 @ 13:07 |
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I thought that about 600 posts ago but then along comes another interested person and often a new CCE convert. I think for the old crew it's history but it's that history that others are drawn to. The thread has a life of its own. Maybe it's these bits of comradery between all of us that makes it still attractive.
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28. August 2004 @ 13:17 |
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I think so. Brings up the image of some old guys at the General store sitting around a pot-bellied stove warming their feet while waiting for a customer to come in.
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28. August 2004 @ 13:33 |
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Hmmm! Thanks for that image Doc! All of a sudden I have a pain in my shoulder and an urge for some gruel. LOL
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28. August 2004 @ 13:48 |
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Well, I hear the one of the best things for that kind of pain is to put a movie into the RB-CCE cooker, and go stroll Busch Gardens with beer and babe. How's that for imagery?
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28. August 2004 @ 13:53 |
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Sounds better and I live within 5 minutes of Busch gardens and I have a season Pass. Does this mean that my wife has to be the babe?
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28. August 2004 @ 13:57 |
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If you want to live a long and healthy life she is.
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28. August 2004 @ 13:58 |
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I don't think I'll go there ... especially having had a friend or two that were lead guitarists is a rock band.
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29. August 2004 @ 12:29 |
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Sophocles and any that may be of help, here are the configuration settings:
[Options]
OneClick=1
NoWarn=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
LoadPlugin=1
[Paths]
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=D:\UNDEFINED\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\UNDEFINED\
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
The problem continues to occurr in the last phase when rebuilder is assembling the files, following CCE having completed its task. I'm pretty good at following directions. Not saying I couldn't have overlooked something. All help appreciated. I sure haven't been able to solve this and none of the prior solutions I've seen seem to work in this case.
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29. August 2004 @ 12:40 |
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Make sure that CCE mode is checked under mode.
Double check that CCE basic 2.67+ is checked under CCE options under the options tab.
I didn't see CCE=2 in the ini file.
Do you actually have a folder labeled undefined for the working folder?
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29. August 2004 @ 15:56 |
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All things checked and double checked on those you suggested. A video was labeled undefined so I named the working file the same to match. Instead of creating a new file, I just emptied the old one. The files names should be irrelevant as long as there is a name of the correct type. The work files are being directed into the correct folder, so the location path doesn't appear to be the problem. I've used other names for the folders.
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29. August 2004 @ 16:12 |
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Just as long as you truly have a directory called "C:\UNDEFINED\" already existing on the drive...
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29. August 2004 @ 18:36 |
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I noticed in Brobear's ini file
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
Is there a consensus of opinion re these settings for Basic 2.69?
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29. August 2004 @ 18:43 |
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The only setting that even makes a difference for that version is quality_prec and 16 is the default value (and the one I use most of the time).
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30. August 2004 @ 02:58 |
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I still doen't understand why CCE=2 isn't in options for designating CCE basic. I haven't seen a functioning rebuilder file without this before.
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30. August 2004 @ 05:04 |
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That's a good point.
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30. August 2004 @ 08:04 |
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It should be there if CCE Basic is chosen. But -- CCE Basic is the default when nothing has been chosen.
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