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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.
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30. August 2004 @ 20:14 |
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big-o ... I was just trying to rattle your cage a bit with Vanderbuilt and La Tech. :) ...I was quite impressed with the schedule. Is ND a regular, or is this the first year?
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30. August 2004 @ 20:22 |
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We play them 3 years in a row every few years. In fact our last little session was our greatest comeback ever. Down 31 points, (I believe) in the 1st half, came back and won in the 2nd.
It's real easy to jerk my chain with the VOLS. lol I'm sure you'll have many chances to do so in the coming months.
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30. August 2004 @ 20:44 |
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...Only if they lose to Vanderbilt. In all seriousness, the Vols have a very tough schedule...especially if they have a lot of young talent. The Sooners have a good squad this year, but they don't have the demanding schedule the Vols do.
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30. August 2004 @ 21:51 |
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If they get by Nebraska, then I think the only thing that remains is Colorado and Pittsburgh.
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jdobbs
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31. August 2004 @ 01:41 |
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@pop_smith
The error you are getting indicates that you haven't setup properly... probably related to the location of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. Using Windows Media Player, open up one of the .AVS files in the D2VAVS directory. You will see that the strange frame size is actually an error message being produced by AVISYNTH.
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31. August 2004 @ 07:09 |
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@jdobbs ... is it a safe bet that whenever any "frame size" error appears that it is AviSynth related?
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31. August 2004 @ 07:14 |
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Yes. It is especially noticable because it will show a large horizontal number and a small vertical number.
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31. August 2004 @ 07:17 |
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Thanks. I'll get that into the FAQ's.
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31. August 2004 @ 07:21 |
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Actually you already have it there - sort of. It mentions a specific resolution, which is actually for a specific error. All you should need to to is change it to reflect other "strange" resolutions and it will be more accurate. Generally they're always 56 pixels high, but that might vary depending on whether AviSynth has any error messages that have more than one line of text.
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31. August 2004 @ 07:38 |
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vurbal ... thanks. I was aware of that one particular error, but I had been seeing other numbers show up with the "frame size error." It seems that they always got around to an AviSynth fix, and so I started to think I was seeing a pattern which could be generalized.
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31. August 2004 @ 07:42 |
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You could probably just generalize it to "Any Resolution Not Supported error from CCE" because CCE supports every resolution you could find on a correctly authored original.
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31. August 2004 @ 07:52 |
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I think the light just went on. So when you check AVS options in RB setup, and AviSynth isn't properly installed, AviSynth won't connect with CCE, thus the frame size error message?
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31. August 2004 @ 08:06 |
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That's almost correct. If it's not installed at all you should get an error about an unknown filetype. If something's wrong with the install, but AviSynth is still working enough to serve frames, it will normally give you an error message in the form of a video clip (typically 240 frames long). It can also be working correctly, but not find a plugin required to use a particular filter, and therefore there will be an error to that effect. In any case, since AviSynth is what sends the frames to CCE, the resolution CCE sees is whatever AviSynth sends it, and not from the original DVD which CCE wouldn't be able to read anyway. I'd probably recommend that the first part of any solution to one of these errors would be to open the AVS file in a media player so you can actually read the error. You should be able to figure out the exact problem based on that.
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31. August 2004 @ 08:21 |
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I'd probably recommend that the first part of any solution to one of these errors would be to open the AVS file in a media player so you can actually read the error. You should be able to figure out the exact problem based on that.
This is really good to know. I thought I would bring attention to it, as we are all learning more about the RB-CCE setup as we use it more. I'm also going to try to break down all this AviSynth info into an understandable Q & A format.
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31. August 2004 @ 08:33 |
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That would be great! AviSynth can be very complicated when you need to do complex things with it, but at it's core it's a very simple program that looks much worse than it is, simply because of it's interface (or lack of one). If you want to play with AviSynth, you might want to start by reading my AviSynth/AVSEdit guide. There are a couple of things I should change at some point, particularly in the examples for deinterlacing and denoising, but the general information is still good.
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/avisynth_tutorial.cfm
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31. August 2004 @ 08:43 |
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I've been "working up" to AviSynth. I've been intimidated by it's lack of user friendliness. However, as the RB-CCE setup is giving me a foothold in understanding it, it may be a good time to try to get into it again. I know your guide will be a good start.
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31. August 2004 @ 11:04 |
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I started working on avisynth script a few weeks ago but lately I haven't had time to pursue it. I especially want to learn enough to start working with some of the plugins. Well got to go, I'm sneaking this one in from work.
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31. August 2004 @ 13:05 |
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I've been using AVISYNTH for a long time, and not just on DVD related material. It can do just about anything if you learn the syntax and the built-in features. You can even use it to measure differences or PSNR on video sources, split fields, add text titles, blend video, fade in/out... and the number of add-on filters is tremendous. The segmented AVI features are essential if you are working with DV sources.
I LOVE AVISYNTH.
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31. August 2004 @ 13:45 |
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@jdobbs
When i open a AVS file i get a error, it is:
LoadPlugin: unable to load "C:\Documents and Settings\XXXXX\Desktop\dvd-rbv056\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll"
(F:/Return of the King working dir\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS)
here is my .ini file in RB:
[Paths]
Working=F:\RETURN_OF_THE_KING WORKING DIR\
CCENEW=
MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\XXXXXX\Desktop\dvd-rbv056\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\XXXXXX\DESKTOP\LORD OF THE RINGS THE RETURN OF THE KING (BUTCHERED)\
CCE250=
CCEBasic=F:\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
REJIG=
[Options]
EncoderMinimized=1
LoadPlugin=1
RemoveDTS=0
OneClick=1
NoWarn=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
CCETargetSectors=2260000
CCE=2
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
Languages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=30
Quality_prec=28
eclPasses=4
I did notice that my "MPEG2DEC.dll" file is pointing to dvd-rbv056 and i am now using .057, would changing the number from 056 to 057 fix the problem? I will try it and get back with everyone.
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jdobbs
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31. August 2004 @ 13:53 |
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Just make sure that directory exists and that MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL is in it (one of the two is almost positively false). The name really doesn't matter.
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31. August 2004 @ 14:15 |
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I just upgraded to Rebuilder .57 and am using CCE Basic 2.69. I've done 3 movies thus far using Remake Pro for re-authoring, and all have encoded through RB-CCE without a problem. I just thought I would "advertise" this in case anyone is reluctant to upgrade, and would rather leave "well enough" alone.
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31. August 2004 @ 14:30 |
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@Pop_Smith...
From your ini file:
CCEBasic=F:\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
From my ini file:
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
It almost appears that the CCE file was put into a folder without ever installing the software. The fact that you were getting a buffer overflow error negates this, however. When you do install CCE, the default installation path puts it into the Program Files on your primary drive. I would suggest using this default. I would also point out that brobear was getting the same error, and that by putting all the files and folders on his C drive, he was able to encode without the error.
Also, as a matter of directory organization, I would suggest you make a folder for RB 57 under Program Files, and then put the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll in it. Then make a Rebuilder shortcut, and drag it to your desktop.
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31. August 2004 @ 14:44 |
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I also notice you have two "Language=" statements... that means you've probably been manually editing the file (DVD-RB can't do that by itself). I'd suggest you delete the INI, start DVD-RB over, set the paths using the setup dialogue and try again. By the way, setting ECLPasses=4 doesn't have any effect on CCE Basic. It does 2 passes and 2 passes only.
You've also modified VBR_Bias and Quality_Prec -- you may want to reset those back to the default.
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31. August 2004 @ 14:47 |
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Starting over sounds good. I would also suggest printing out a copy of vurbal's guide and follow it step by step without any ad-libbing.
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31. August 2004 @ 15:30 |
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After the episode with brobear I?ve learned that anything can be a cause of a problem and the more irregularities you have the more likely it is that you?ll experience one. I think jdobbs is right; you need to start with a fresh setup and keep it pristine. You have CCE on your F:\drive and RB on your C:\drive but you?re taking it back to your movie on your F:\Drive and then there are your basic settings below. I?d put them all on the same drive and redo your setup just as Doc said, straight from Vurbals guide.. I know that jdobbs uses multiple drives but I think you should keep it simple.
Yours
VBR_bias=30
Quality_prec=28
eclPasses=4
Default
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
CCEBasic=F:\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\XXXXX\Desktop\dvd-rbv056\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Working=F:\RETURN_OF_THE_KING WORKING DIR\
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