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30. August 2004 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The reason CCE=2 wasn't present was because it was the default selection that had never been changed. It was checked under Mode when I set up and when I rechecked to verify settings. The RB recognized the CCE selection because the program went through the CCE phase and was in phase III when the problem occurred.

"0003 Buffer Overflow" and "Run-time error '6': Overflow" can occurr when the Source Path folder and the Working Path folder are not on the Local HD with the Rebuilder program.

Thanks to Sophocles and jdobbs I finally got this problem solved. For purposes of sychronization, the program and the folders with the files needed to be on the same drive. The program and folders weren't in synch, thus causing a lag and the resulting buffer problem.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the help session. I now have a working version of RB/CCE. I double checked and there doesn't seem to be any problems as long as I keep everything on the same drive.

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30. August 2004 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So you're saying that you solved it by putting moving one of the directories (either source or working) to the same drive as DVD-RB? Either I'm misunderstanding (seems like I am) or just generally confused, because until recently I didn't have DVD-RB on the same drive as my source or working directories.

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Looking at my latest encode, my Source is on C and Woring Path on D. Sometimes it is vice-versa. Is spliting between drives a bad idea?


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You're looking at the differences that can occurr in equipment. On my computer, the working path and source path folders have to be on the drive with the program. I tried it with both files on a separate drive and got the overflow problem again. I then used files on the same drive with RB and all worked well. So, that was the case in this instance with this equipment. BTW, this is the only program setup I have encountered a buffer problem with.

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You might have stumbled upon the answer to a long-held mystery. Can we refer to this as the "brobear effect?" :)


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Since you haven't had a problem on your system, it obviously isn't a problem. It just has to do with my PC software setup and hardware. It is just another problem solving variable when someone says they're suffering from buffer problems. It appears that usually the program and source and path folders don't have to be on the same drive, but in some cases they have to be.

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I guess I'll just take this as another Windows "random feature" and try to remember it in the future.

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The thing is, when I did have the problem I had two different hard drives - one at 5600 RPM, and another at 7200. My clean install involved using a different drive, so now they are both 7200.

I thought the clean install did it, but it appears likely not. Who would have figured...?

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Hmmm..... I'm glad you got it working brobear, especially after all the time you've spent on it. I know you were getting to the "aw f**k it" point.

I would have never thought to suggest the same drive, as I've got mine on two different drives, I did that intentionally to see if it would speed things up.

Good job sophocles recommending to put it all on the C:/ drive.


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brobear ... I've noted this discovery in the "Are you having trouble..." FAQ's No. 8, calling it the brobear effect ... if that is OK with you?

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/97052

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I haven't had this problem yet with different harddrives and speeds but if I get another buffer error I'll check it out on the offending backup.
It could explain better why some people had more problems with buffer errors than others.

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Wow. This is way beyond weird. I sometimes use 3 drives: one for DVD-RB, another holding the ISO image that is mounted, and a third for output....

Leave it the way it is and label the fix as "FM"
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Doc409
As long as I don't have to worry about it any more, you can call the problem whatever you want to. As for jdobbs label, I'm almost afraid to ask what FM stands for, but I'll play the shill.

jdobbs
What does "FM" stand for?

BigO
It seems if there is an off the wall prob, I get it. It was getting exasperating, however it was one of those problems I had set aside until I got some free time. So, I hadn't been going at it since I initially tried setting up RB. The program worked just enough that I knew I wanted to see a finished product.

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I've always heard it as PFM - Pure *!@#$ Magic.

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Thanks Vurbal, I think I get the picture.

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That's what I thought he meant, but without the pure.

Brobear, there's more buzz about this FU(guess what that stands for) than I've seen in a while in this thread! This may clear up problems for a bunch of people.


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I'm thinking the same thing. This is a significant finding. It will be interesting to see just how many people can fix their buffer overflow problems by staying on one drive? Iknow I had the problem a lot more than I ever let on, and just about walked away from RB-CCE.


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My wits may be a bit slow today from being up late working with the software, but I think I get that one. I wonder if my problem was a 'one in several million' deal or a bit more common? I'm just glad there are some knowledgable people around that assisted with the problem. It didn't appear to be a logical solution, but we arrived at the cure anyway.

As vurbal and jdobbs mentioned, it may just be PFM.

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brobear, You got that right! The more I think about it, the bigger it is. Watch everybody start suggesting to put it all on one drive when they see somebody has a buffer problem. LOL

Doc, you weren't fooling anybody, I remember your frustration! lol


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brobear...I think it is more common than one might think. I'm also thinking this is why it showed up in Remake more...because files are ripped on C, but exported to D because of a time savings. From there, any further RB activity is always going to be on 2 different drives.


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In that case wouldn't it be a simple matter to just run ReMake on D and export the finished product to C? Unless I figure out a further fix, that will be the route I'll have to take.

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30. August 2004 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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We have to get brobear's problem in the Q and A section. It seems that in some cases splitting drives may be a probelm.


brobear what channel do you have drive D on and is it being shared with other devices such as a CD Rom?

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In a sense, yes, files can be ripped to any drive.

With my previous setup I had a smaller, 5600 drive where I kept the program files. I ripped to this drive so I could export to the larger, faster 7200 w/8MB secondary drive. When things end up back on the smaller drive, though, it defeats the purpose of the larger drive. Because of this, I think that a lot of folks gravitate towards using the larger, secondary drive, and it could be those folks that are having most of the problems.


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Some people are also using their drives on the same IDE channel as a CDRom and that could cause just such a problem.

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Soph ... got the Q & A (#8) updated with the split drive fix.

Having the CD ROM on the same IDE channel is a little harder to envision how it could be a problem ... since it wouldn't be active in the encoding process?

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