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Red_Maw
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15. February 2009 @ 21:25 |
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oman7,
From my experience Orthos is a poor stress test; I would suggest using OCCT and linpack instead. My E6600 could pass 30min of Orthos and yet not be any where near stable and would fail OCCT and linpack within 10 minutes.
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15. February 2009 @ 21:47 |
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Thanks eparker89! Appreciate the input. Any thoughts on my situation(the HT freq)? ehh... you know, I seriously doubt its having much effect if any on trying to achieve 3.0ghz! Its gotta be voltage, RIGHT? Shouldnt 1.3 be enough?
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15. February 2009 @ 22:46 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks eparker89! Appreciate the input. Any thoughts on my situation(the HT freq)? ehh... you know, I seriously doubt its having much effect if any on trying to achieve 3.0ghz! Its gotta be voltage, RIGHT? Shouldnt 1.3 be enough?
Oman7,
I would think about 1.35v should do it!
Russ
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15. February 2009 @ 22:52 |
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Thanks russ. I noticed in the bios, despite this being a locked multi, the multiplier can be dropped. Is that simply for more fine tuning?
I'll try it right now. Then my side panel STAYS on, LOL.
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15. February 2009 @ 23:10 |
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ok... 2.9ghz is more stable then it was before. Voltage is now 1.35
Now im gonna try this OCCT and linpack eparker spoke of. Other people have had success with my processor, but this board is uncharted territory, LOL. Averaging in all modes 3-5C higher. Im almost afraid to run a stress test. I'll slap the panel on and go from there. :D
Multi is 13 by the way
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15. February 2009 @ 23:10 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks russ. I noticed in the bios, despite this being a locked multi, the multiplier can be dropped. Is that simply for more fine tuning?
I'll try it right now. Then my side panel STAYS on, LOL.
I would think that a lower multiplier would allow a higher fsb to get to the same speed for a little better throughput! I'm totally guessing that your stock multiplier is 13 1/2! If that is correct, try lowering the multi to 13 and make the fsb 231. That should give you 3,0GHz, and you can compare what you had to what you have now, if it boots!
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15. February 2009 @ 23:36 |
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In general a higher fsb gives better overall system performance. I would recommend dropping the multi to find your highest stable fsb and then raise the multi back up from there. I'm not familiar with HT but you may want to leave the frequency at stock or even drop it a bit until the desired OC is reached.
Other quick notes:
- only raise the vcore (one notch at a time) when the system is unstable
- lower memory speed until fsb and cpu are OC
- lock pcie/pci speeds at their default speed
- disable cool and quiet while OC (left the intel equivalent off as I see neither a need or benefit for it)
As far as I know the only way you can hurt a cpu is from heat and voltage, so keep an eye on the temps and don't give it a crazy amount of juice. Good luck and have fun OCing ;)
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15. February 2009 @ 23:37 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
ok... 2.9ghz is more stable then it was before. Voltage is now 1.35
Now im gonna try this OCCT and linpack eparker spoke of. Other people have had success with my processor, but this board is uncharted territory, LOL. Averaging in all modes 3-5C higher. Im almost afraid to run a stress test. I'll slap the panel on and go from there. :D
I guess I might as well add my two cents on OCCT! First off I don't like it! I feel that it puts an unnatural load on things and elevates temperatures far beyond any load you may encounter, even in hard use. The funny thing is that back when I looked for 24 hour or 12 hour runs with OCCT to prove stability, only to find out that it wouldn't Fold! I also recently noticed that every one of the three CPUs in computers that were tested that way, eventually Failed! All well within the Warranty period. That's 1 3.0 GHz P4 Prescott, 1 Pentium D 940 and 1 E6750, although I helped the E6750 along considerably, by over-volting it!
Now, I use Linpack and do the recommended 5 passes or more. Seems to me, if it's good enough for Intel to use, it's good enough for me! I just don't see all that heat with OCCT with any other program that I use! I actually prefer Orthos to OCCT as it doesn't make as much heat and it's multi-threaded too!
Remember the common denominator here is heat! Remember also that "Heat is the Enemy"! The more it's avoided, the better!
Russ
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16. February 2009 @ 00:20 |
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Well...sucks to be me. My cpu literally exploded!!! Im on my backup pc posting this!!!
LOL, Did you believe it? Nah...it began booting with FSB set at 229, but locked up on XP splash screen. You know what? Im just gonna give up on this CPU. I dont wanna hurt it! It is going to my sis, or for my secondary use. Besides, if you could see my desk, you wouldnt wanna tangle with it anyway. I had to jumper the CMOS again. Not that I dont believe your Ram removal method Sam. I just know that the cmos jumper works. Quite awkward to get at on this board with a large GPU too! Thanks everyone for your help anyway. Atleast now im a little more familiar with the process :D
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16. February 2009 @ 01:02 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I guess I might as well add my two cents on OCCT! First off I don't like it! I feel that it puts an unnatural load on things and elevates temperatures far beyond any load you may encounter, even in hard use. The funny thing is that back when I looked for 24 hour or 12 hour runs with OCCT to prove stability, only to find out that it wouldn't Fold! I also recently noticed that every one of the three CPUs in computers that were tested that way, eventually Failed! All well within the Warranty period. That's 1 3.0 GHz P4 Prescott, 1 Pentium D 940 and 1 E6750, although I helped the E6750 along considerably, by over-volting it!
Now, I use Linpack and do the recommended 5 passes or more. Seems to me, if it's good enough for Intel to use, it's good enough for me! I just don't see all that heat with OCCT with any other program that I use! I actually prefer Orthos to OCCT as it doesn't make as much heat and it's multi-threaded too!
Remember the common denominator here is heat! Remember also that "Heat is the Enemy"! The more it's avoided, the better!
Russ
I was using Orthos until a few days ago when my "Orthos" stable cpu would BSOD during the first few minutes of a game. I was able to fold and do everything else I normally do so if I never tried to play FEAR 2 it probably would've been just fine. After that I switched to Linpack and haven't had any major problems since. Linpack does make my cpu run almost as hot as OCCT does, which is a good 5-10C above anything else I've yet to see.
One of the oddest things I've come across is that unless the vcore is set to auto it's nearly impossible to get my system stable. I've had the cpu at 3.2ghz with a vcore of 1.3 (and a little higher) yet it would continuously fail linpack. Setting the vcore to auto makes the vcore fluctuate between 1.275-1.3 yet it passes Linpack everytime lol.
oman7,
Don't know the stock speed of the 5200+ but 2.8ghz isn't bad. It's as far as I went on my first OC. One of the things I love about my Asus MB is that when ever a OC fails all you need to do is restart to get a 'OC failed press F1 to enter bios' msg. Never had to use the jumper or RAM method yet.
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16. February 2009 @ 01:09 |
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The reason I had to CMOS Jump is because when I restart, it hangs on the Gigabyte splash screen.
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Red_Maw
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16. February 2009 @ 02:27 |
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My MB will reset itself to allow me access to the bios even if it won't post. It's one of the features of Asus MB iirc.
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16. February 2009 @ 02:40 |
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Hmmm...thats a very nice feature. I imagine given time, all manufacturers will embrace such a feature. Too bad gigabyte obviously didnt integrate such an ability. Ehhh...no biggie. I bought this board chiefly for the phenomII support. Its one of the highest rated for the processor. Didnt hurt my wallet either. Atleast it shouldnt have. Long story.
Ehh...doesnt bother me that it cant reset. If my desk were not such a mess, clearing CMOS would only take little more than a gesture. Besides, once I get it configured right where I want it...SWEET!
Heck, as little as I know, it would not surprise me to hear that it can, given a setting within the bios.
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16. February 2009 @ 02:44 |
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Originally posted by eparker89:
My MB will reset itself to allow me access to the bios even if it won't post. It's one of the features of Asus MB iirc.
A lot of motherboards do something just like that. On the 790GX GigaByte it goes to a Dual Bios menu and offers you a choice, one of which is boot to the last known good configuration, and you enter the setup from there!
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16. February 2009 @ 02:48 |
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Its given me that option once. The other time, I gave it 2 minutes and it remained stuck, on the gigabyte splash screen.
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16. February 2009 @ 03:10 |
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Im trying to get past 3.00ghz on an GB-EP45 Extreme MB and a q6600 prcessor with 2gig of 800 G-Skill RAM. A few questions as to where I set all these settings, and what settings I leave alone and what settings I bump up:
Advanced Clock Control has options to adjust CPU Clock Drive, PCI Express Clock Drive, CPU Clock Skew, MCH Clock Skew.... Not got a clue what to set this to!
Performance Enhance = Standard
(G)MCH Freq LATCH = Auto
Do I still set the memory Multiplier as close to the Memory Frequency as possible???
All the Volages are on AUTO because there are so many of them:
CPU Vcore
CPU Termination
CPU PLL
CPU Reference
CPU Reference 2
MCH Core
MCH Reference
MCH/DRAM Reference
ICH I/O
ICH Core
DRAM Voltage
DRAM Termination
Channel A Ref
Channel B Ref
I need to know what I adjust and what I leave to get overclocking with this motherboard.
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16. February 2009 @ 03:14 |
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A STOP error opening speedfan isn't the end of the world. Almost all DFI boards will BSOD when you open speedfan as they aren't supported.
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16. February 2009 @ 03:19 |
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It runs normally before OC. I simply wanted to read temp. It just happened to be the first program I ran.
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16. February 2009 @ 03:21 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Hmmm...thats a very nice feature. I imagine given time, all manufacturers will embrace such a feature. Too bad gigabyte obviously didnt integrate such an ability. Ehhh...no biggie. I bought this board chiefly for the phenomII support. Its one of the highest rated for the processor. Didnt hurt my wallet either. At least it shouldnt have. Long story.
Ehh...doesnt bother me that it cant reset. If my desk were not such a mess, clearing CMOS would only take little more than a gesture. Besides, once I get it configured right where I want it...SWEET!
Heck, as little as I know, it would not surprise me to hear that it can, given a setting within the bios.
That feature isn't a factor for me when I look at MB, in fact I didn't know it was there till my first failed OC lol. Sometimes ineed to cycle the power a couple times before it comes up though so it's stuck at the splash screen just cycle the power once to see if it comes up.
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16. February 2009 @ 03:28 |
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Pretty much all boards have had this, at least with Intel chipsets. Most Gigabytes take it one stage further by even being able to recover from failed BIOS flashes. Not that I'd want to test that...
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16. February 2009 @ 03:28 |
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I'll keep that in mind for when I get the PhenomII in a couple weeks. Should have it in 2-3weeks. Im gonna leave the athlon alone for now, LOL. I do have a future planned for it after all. I think it'll make an EXCELLENT htpc!!!
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16. February 2009 @ 10:41 |
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I have a question guys. I would like to know which of these settings would be a better performer.
Setting 1
cpu 8*475
cpu speed= 3.8
mem strap 333
mem speed= 950
Setting 2
cpu 9*423
cpu speed= 3.8
mem strap 333
mem speed 1015
I would think that setting 2 would be better since i can achieve better memory speed. On setting 1 all i could achieve was 950 on the memory all the rest pushed my memory past 1066 and unfortunately my wont go past 1066 its stock setting.
Case=Antec Lanboy, Psu=Corsair HX620, Mobo=GA-X58A-UD5,Ram=Gskill 1600Mhz 3x2gigs,Cpu=I7 950 4Ghz,Cpu Cooler= EK 240 Water Kit,Gpu=HD6870x2,Eyefinity Set up,Ssd=Gskill Phoenix Pro 120gb
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16. February 2009 @ 11:03 |
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Setting 2 will be better as it places less strain on the chipset.
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16. February 2009 @ 12:22 |
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ok just checking. I figured that but when you read alot of threads all around there all about the fsb and putting it as high as possible blah blah. I like it here where yes you can go that high but that nots important its about longevity and performance thanks again.
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16. February 2009 @ 14:10 |
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I think that's more to show off the board's capabilities if anything.
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