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PS2 And Swap Magic Help~PLEASE READ~
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28. December 2006 @ 21:52 |
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Originally posted by bubbles32:
F*** me dead all i wanted was an answer sorry, not everyone wants to read a ten page thread u know
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Originally posted by Razor89:
Yeh, you know why there's ten pages? Becuase of repeated questions. If people would take the trouble of reading the 2 or 3 pages there used to be instead of reposting the same questions everyone else has asked, this thread wouldn't be so ridiculously long.
- bubbles32 and other lazy/impatient posters take heed of Razor89's comment there, every blessed day i myself sift thru countless threads full of the same lazy attitudes. I personally know very little about swap magic etc but if i needed to know how, i'd read threads such as this without asking questions and i'd know what it all meant and how to do it. Easy.
@Angelina8 - i see you apologised for apparent multiposting, now i have to go clean them up; one of the most irritating and space wasting things on forums is multiposting, see my comment above
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Angelina8
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29. December 2006 @ 10:33 |
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Hi Creaky,
I went back to delete them but apparently I dont have the rights to delete or modify my own post.
Angie
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29. December 2006 @ 10:38 |
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ok, i'd fixed them anyway..
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PaulZell
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3. January 2007 @ 10:03 |
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Hey there, I am here to ask for Razor's advice on my situation. I have been surfing around this forum for a while and have not seen any case just like this around, so I decided to ask for help before I bite the swap cds in half :S
I have one of the first versions of the ps2, the scph-30004 R.
A friend of mine has a ps2 as well, don't know the version though, but it's a old version as well(not the slim one). He had the version 2.0 of swap magic and it worked fine for him.
Just recently I purchsed the the 3.8 coder version of swap magic, through that friend of mine. As soon as he recieved the sm, he tried it and it worked just fine, even better than his 2.0 version.
When I tried it on my ps2, the cd vesion worked, but the dvd version didn't. I thought it was odd, but it might have been a bump or a little scratch on the dvd, so I gave it back to my friend for him to try it again on his ps2, and to my surprise, he said it worked just fine, thus reveling the problem wasn't from the sm dvd's.
Given this, I asked him for his 2.0 version to try on my ps2, but to no avail, as it didn't work as well, showing the same symtoms.
When I insert the dvd swap magic, the dvd would take a long time to react and it would end up on the screen with the golden disc and the memory card. When I chose the dvd, it would try to load, but end up back to the same screen. But being as stuborn as I am, I would try many times, and eventualy (3 times with the 2.0 version and 2 times with the 3.8 coder) I could get to load the sm dvd correctly. I followed the standard procedure (slide card, and so on...) but in the end, the backups didn't work anyway, they would not load or the red "insert playstation disk" screen would appear. Only once a backup entered, even though I did the same all the times... As for the lazer I highly doubt it is the problem because originals load just fine.
I'm terribly sorry for the long post. Thank you.
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Razor89
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3. January 2007 @ 11:41 |
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Originally posted by PaulZell:
As soon as he recieved the sm, he tried it and it worked just fine, even better than his 2.0 version.
When I tried it on my ps2, the cd vesion worked, but the dvd version didn't.....so I gave it back to my friend for him to try it again on his ps2, and to my surprise, he said it worked just fine, thus reveling the problem wasn't from the sm dvd's.
I have this problem sometimes with some PS2's, others are unaffected. At one point in time, I owned 4 diff PS2's and SM booted up easily on some systems while some systems didn't like it. I would suggest adjusting the laser, using your SM disc as the test disc. If you get the laser at a good point that can read SM, try getting it to read originals. If originals work at that point, you are done. Otherwise you will have to find a place in the middle or deal with it and have a hard time booting up every time.
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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Nilok
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3. January 2007 @ 16:49 |
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I'm not sure the the method I saw on here was for the slim line or not, so could someone clarify for me how to adjust te laser on the large form-factor PS2?
thanks in advance
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Razor89
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3. January 2007 @ 18:13 |
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The method posted here IS for the big version. I haven't heard of adjusting the laser on slimline...Also, I wanted to point out something I noticed in your posts...You were always very polite, and at one point, you apologized for having a long post. I hope people can learn from you, as one long post full of details is much more helpful than 10 posts with bits and pieces. Do not apologize for giving such awesome details, that was greatly appreciated. You should be an idle to all newbies on AD. Well maybe that's stretching a bit far...But you get the point.
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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Nilok
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3. January 2007 @ 20:27 |
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Thanks, razor. I appriciate the kind words. It's always nice to be recognised and appriciated.
I looked at a few different guides online including here and the inormation I'm finding regarding my specific model i a bit cryptic. It looks like the V5 and V6 PS2s are the first to stop having the cog easily accessable and instead one has to disassemble the unit and adjust what are reffered to as "Pots". To adjust these pots reliably, one needs an osciloscope, a meter that reads the power output of the laser you're adjusting (there's a pot for either kind of media - CDs and DVDs)
I have no such device and the pictures shown don't seem to differenciate between the screws and the pots on the laser, making it difficult to descern which is which - especially since the pictures of the pots on other digrams clearly mark what needs adjusting.
As of now, I have no dire need to adjust the laser, however it's taking longer and longer for my PS2 to read both my SM disk and originals - Furthermore, the PS2 has quit reading CDs outright which is disheartening to say the least as it means my PSX games may as well be little cork squares. not to mention my blue-bottom PS2 games - though as of now I could always burn those to a dvd and use Sm to boot them.
have you or anyone come across a guide or have an idea where I can find one that clearly marks the pots that need adjusting? bonus points if you know of a means or can help me find one that lets me adjust the pots without having to measure the power output and can just get a good idea based on the position of said pots.
Once again thanks in advance to everyone and thanks again to razor for your kindness and support.
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manjifran
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4. January 2007 @ 17:43 |
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@Nilok,
I have exactly the same problem. My PS2 is a model SCPH-30001 NTSC and has been working fine for a long time. I installed a 4 cable modchip long time ago without any problems and it loads any PS2 CD backup just fine. Recently I bought the Swap Magic 3.6 (not the coder) and the cd works just fine, but the DVD won't read at all. I tried several times and it always shows the same symptoms you wrote about in a previous post. I live in the UK right now and bought this for just one DVD game not available here. Since everything else works fine in my PS2, I am almost sure that it is a bad Swap Magic DVD. Unfortunately I have not been able to test the disk in another PS2 since everyone I know has a PAL version. I am waiting for some answer to the question you posted before contacting the people where I bought it, I want to extinguish all available possibilities. Also thanks to everyone that takes the time to answer questions in this forum.
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Razor89
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4. January 2007 @ 17:48 |
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I think it's strange you both have the same problem...I would reccomend using the SM disc as the test disc to reposition your laser. Remember to mark the original setting, and if you can't get SM to work you can always take it back to the original setting.
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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Nilok
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4. January 2007 @ 19:41 |
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my prblem is this means I have to identify the pots and adjust them manually, reassemble the PS2 test the drive, and do everything again (save identify the pots) if I didn't do it right the first time.
and razor, yeah our problems are similar, but my PS2 is showing it's age and is currently unable to read CDs period. meanwhile dvds are fine, it's just a bit slow to read them at first. However to further perpetuate the conspiracy, my model is also a 30001R.
Anyway thanks for the support, everyone.
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Razor89
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4. January 2007 @ 20:02 |
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What do you mean by the word 'pots'? Also, is there anything special about your version of PS2? I haven't seen any scph numbers with R after them....What is that for? You should be able to tell which screws need to be removed by simply looking at the drive. When adjusting it, do not completely re-assemble the PS2 until it is fixed.
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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Nilok
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4. January 2007 @ 21:52 |
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that much I understand. but the v5 abd v6 ps2 have a different type of DVD rom drive from the other models. still everything v1-v4 you could simply eject the try and shift a cog to adjust the tray height. from v5 and on there are special looking screws....if that's how one would describe them which are designed to calibrate the laser these screws are called pots. in the diagrams I've seen they circle the pots and label them in the pictures. but the pots are easily decernable compared to the other screws. however on the v5 and v6 the pots as far as I can tell look exactly like the other screws and are not labeled in any digrams I've seen online so I'm not sure what it is I'm looking at or for. However there are two labels clearly placed on the hardware itself that don't seem to be pointing to anything. that said I'm not sure what it is I'm looking at. that is the issue.
thanks and sorry for the confusion.
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Razor89
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4. January 2007 @ 22:38 |
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You said from version 5 and on, the pots are not easy to distinguish. I'm not still not sure why you want to know where the pots are... I have taken off my drive's cover very simply. I have never had any confusion and I completely disassembled my PS2, including the drive case, without any instruction at all. If you can figure out how to open the drive case, which is very very simple, you can then use the guide in this thread to adjust the laser.
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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Nilok
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5. January 2007 @ 03:01 |
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that's where the confusion lays. is there a cog there to adjust that I'm not seeing in the diagram?
thanks
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Razor89
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6. January 2007 @ 20:01 |
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Originally posted by eric04h:
NON SWAP MAGIC USERS
1.Unplug all wires atached to the ps2 system
2.Turn your PS2 upside down.
3.Remove all screw covers on the bottom of your PS2.
4.Remove all 8 or 10 screws with a phillips screw driver(remember where the long and small screws belong,mark them somehow if that helps to remember where they belong)
5.remove the top cover of the PS2.
6.Now you will see the ps2 drive(black with a white circle in the middle)now remove the lens cover plate(it is black and has a total of 6 screws).
7.Turn On Your PS2.
8.Eject The PS2 Tray And Turn Off Your PS2.
9.Open The PS2 Flip Top Cover Adn You Should be able to see the lens and everything around it.
10.look for a little white round dial that may be partially covered,
11.after you have located this dial Mark where it is set at with a marker or pencil.
12. Now keep turn the dial counter clockwise until it the Ps2 lens drops(you will see the lens module go down).Now turn on your ps2 and insert the ps2 game that used to say "Disc Read Error",does the game load? if it does then you are done. If it does not load then you need to turn the dial some more.keep turning the little dial and checking if the cd reads. it may take a while to find the spot on the dial so that it can read properly, but it is worth the time since it saves you money on buying a new PS2 Lens.
This is the instructions...I'm not aware of the diagrams you describe, but if you read this you should be able to adjust it very easily. The hardest part of the whole process would have to be making sure your ribbon cable isn't pinched or disconnected. Other than that, very simple process...Sorry if I'm not understand you correctly.
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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Nilok
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8. January 2007 @ 04:47 |
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mmm I think I see where the confusion was. the instructions I saw implied that the cog was to be visible and adjustable with the ps2 on and fully assembled. not only that but it would be afjustable from there as well. I see now that this is not the case. Still the diagrams that I found are bad. fortunately, that may no longer be an issue. thanks razor.
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8. January 2007 @ 10:41 |
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I have a problem with genji: dawn of the samurai. I burned it and I want boot him with Swap Magic 3.6 and screen is black. Next I used Zoneloader and screen is black too. Maybe I must re-burn my copy of genji? What do You think?
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Razor89
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8. January 2007 @ 15:23 |
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mapi, more info needed...What is the filesize of the game? What media, what speed did you burn, where did you get the iso? Do you have other games that boot good, ones that you've burned?
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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mapi12
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9. January 2007 @ 00:05 |
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Originally posted by Razor89:
mapi, more info needed...What is the filesize of the game? What media, what speed did you burn, where did you get the iso? Do you have other games that boot good, ones that you've burned?
razor
Oh sory. I burned it with DVD Decrypter x4 in verbatim DVD-R. I always use that dvd`s and copys works great. My copys is Genji Dawn Of The Samurai USA_NTSC_PS2DVD-DoitBest. And its working becouse I speek with other people who`s donwloaded it. But they have chips... Maybe I have something wrong with my burned copy?
ps. Sorry for my english....
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Razor89
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9. January 2007 @ 00:08 |
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If you know of people who have burned it successfully, I would suggest burning another copy...Also, try booting that disc on a diff PS2. Glad to see your using Verbatim!
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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9. January 2007 @ 01:06 |
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Originally posted by Razor89:
If you know of people who have burned it successfully, I would suggest burning another copy...Also, try booting that disc on a diff PS2. Glad to see your using Verbatim!
razor
Yes but they have have modchips. I want boot him with dvdloader but when I see - change your disk - I open the deck and dvd is running! I have version 7 all. I press x and they`re 3 versions 5.x and 5 - 7.x. Now I change the disk and press x on version 7.2. Enything is happened. I need a fix and I search him but I cant` find him enywhere. I dont want making secund dont working backup...
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tonyng
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13. January 2007 @ 06:01 |
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Originally posted by sobhy2406:
Eric both of ours got stickied were famous YAY
i havea psp2 slim model i don't know what version i got?anh how to play backup games, i already had the swap magic 3,6 discs,please help
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ayamaya
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15. January 2007 @ 13:50 |
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After reading this thread, I found couple people were trying to boot SM 3.6 with older version of SM, I won't question you guys why, since it is true that newer version of SM can boot more backups than the old ones (i don't know which games though) but here is some info: it is possible to boot burned SM 3.6 CD version with older verison of SM, said, 3.0
1. Boot up your 3.0 SM - CD version, as usual
2. Use the slide tool to take out the SM CD and put in your CD7all fix, you can download it from swapmagicfix
3. Use the slide tool again to take out ur CD7all fix and put in ur burned copy of 3.6 SM - CD version
And Ka-boom, 3.6 SM - CD version loading screen is there, swapmagicplus
It will boot up CD backup just fine, but like i said, i don't know the games that 3.6 can boot and 3.0 can't, so there is no proof that 3.6 works better (well, i am too lazy to test it is another thing, lol)
I've also tried to boot up 3.6 SM - DVD version, no luck so far, anyway, hope these info help
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Razor89
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15. January 2007 @ 16:20 |
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Originally posted by ayamaya:
After reading this thread, I found couple people were trying to boot SM 3.6 with older version of SM, I won't question you guys why, since it is true that newer version of SM can boot more backups than the old ones (i don't know which games though) but here is some info: it is possible to boot burned SM 3.6 CD version with older verison of SM, said, 3.0
1. Boot up your 3.0 SM - CD version, as usual
2. Use the slide tool to take out the SM CD and put in your CD7all fix, you can download it from swapmagicfix
3. Use the slide tool again to take out ur CD7all fix and put in ur burned copy of 3.6 SM - CD version
And Ka-boom, 3.6 SM - CD version loading screen is there, swapmagicplus
It will boot up CD backup just fine, but like i said, i don't know the games that 3.6 can boot and 3.0 can't, so there is no proof that 3.6 works better (well, i am too lazy to test it is another thing, lol)
I've also tried to boot up 3.6 SM - DVD version, no luck so far, anyway, hope these info help
nice ayamaya, nice to see someone helping instead of asking repeat q's, good job!
razor
OK hippies, here's some joints, and a guitar.
The number 23 is everywhere.
I am a firm believer in the theory of The Matrix.
ayamaya: "Razor, thank you for the comments, this world needs more people like us to make earth a better place to live, well, a better place to play PS2"
Thanks ayamaya!Defianetly need more people who appreciate my help instead of being rude when I reply=)
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