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AfterDawn Addict
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27. December 2005 @ 18:30 |
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i was saying that. multi disk games may not happen cuz the cost. that is what will make the
360 lose. as soon as the average game is 9gb or more, the 360 cannot be used anymore with
many things revoed or less detail. few games with detail will come out on the 360. you may
say the 360 has better graphics, and it does not, but if it were true with dvd9 the graphics
would be unused.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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zelda64
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28. December 2005 @ 00:10 |
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When are you people going to get it into your thick skulls. Are you all really as dumb as your making out to be?
Fist the reason why games didnt come out on more discs on both PS2 and xbox are becuase the discs had enough spcace for the information. Not becuase of the cost of the disc.
Second, 360 will not decrease in texture or graphic quality in any way becuase it is on a DVD9. Lets see if you can understant this. (This is just an example anubis, I repeat, 'AN EXAMPLE')
1 DVD9 disc = 9gb
1 GTA4 games might be 18gb
18 devided by 9 = 2
therefore 2 disc's is equal to the game GTA4. Therefore no loss has been made in graphic quality because GAT4 is 18gb in total and two DVD9 disc's are 18gb in total.
Kookoo, how are you so sure that Killzone 2 is real time when I heard from the devloper that Killzone was a graphical demonstration of what the PS3 might be able to produce. However you suggest that both console's would be able to produce this kind of power, if this is the case then I might stay on track with the 360.
Lastly you all have a go at people who have desided on buying a 360 or are just plain fan boys. You say to them that they dont know what they are talking about becuase Sony have'nt shown everything on the PS3 yet, but when talking about the PS3 you talk about it as if everything has been shown on the system. An example of this is Linux. It maybe a good operating system but we havent seen how the PS3 utelises it yet so stop jumping to conclusions.
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28. December 2005 @ 00:34 |
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zelda, cant completely criticise you right now but id like to say.
you ignorant mofo.
if you split that game up it would still be like 3 dvds because you have to have the texures on
all disks, or you'll loos detail to save the multidisking.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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zelda64
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28. December 2005 @ 01:36 |
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Watch what you say about ingorance anubis (the person who only checks out most of the things on PS3)
Anyway lets put it into a term you might understand.
If you have a level and cut it in half you have the same level with the same textures but only half that level. Where you are going wrong is that your considering all the textures.
Lets use another example. Lets say there is 10 buildings to represent the whole game of GTA4. A building is comprised of 1.8gb of texture information. All the buildings add up to a total of 18gb of information in total. If you take 5 buildings out of the equation you have 9gb's of information. 5 building equal half the game and can be put on a DVD9, the other 5 are put onto a DVD9 which makes up the whole game.
Can you see where I am coming from now?
P.S. please dont call me ignorant when you are the one that seems to say PS3 is superior to 360. They are both good consoles and I dont know what one to get yet, but I read as much information on both as iam not ignorant and dont like reading information only on the one console, like someone I know.
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28. December 2005 @ 01:44 |
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ok again, swapping will cause people not to enjoy. cause what if you wanna go back to another building for a cool feature? and this building is on another disk? swapping and loading. if you know, gta is not a linear game whatsoever. its basiaclly a violent rpg. an multi disk rpg does not work without all the info on one disk. thus causing troubles a dev team probably doesnt want to deal with.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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zelda64
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28. December 2005 @ 01:54 |
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Whats Final Fantasy, a flight simulator? lol
Please anubis, again do you understand what example means? Just look in the dictionary.
I have to say anubis i think you have to be the dumbest person on afterdawn, esspesialy when I looked at the other thread talking about the design of the PS3. Those where the funniest reasons to why the PS3 design is good. I was crying with laughter at one point.
Kookoo comes up with good points and for that matter so does nealry everyone here (except the occasional noobie) but you anubis are a classic.
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chimpanel
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28. December 2005 @ 02:04 |
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anubis water pools because of the shape of the 360, thats why u dont like its design?? WTF!? What the hell u guna be doing playing your ps3 in the rain? Another pricless comment. And zelda is right your just clutching at straws with the disc space thing now.
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KoOkOo67
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28. December 2005 @ 08:31 |
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You guys are misunderstanding me. I am talking about the ps3 games.....NOT THE MULTY CONSOL games
Back in the time of ps1, ppl thaught that 500mb of spacce was impossoble to fit in one disk(Just how ppl are saying 50gb is hard to fit on a disk). But ffVIII came out and guess what? It was 4 disks. Am I wrong? If a game developer wants to make and extreeemly good game like ffviii all over again, they easily can, and they can make it on 2blueray disks ..
Now lets end this......NOW.
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liljohn
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28. December 2005 @ 10:25 |
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when is the 360 coming out in the u.s? does anyone now???
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28. December 2005 @ 10:52 |
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zelda like i said im just trying to be the rain on your parade. i gave my example on why it would not, and why your idea would not work, and why companies would not design on it.
kookoo is right, anything with the amount of gameplay in ff in hd may even have to take mroe than one bluray disk, which is alot.
and you laugh at my examples? why? if other people have already given you the complicated answers for me, than why should i repeat that? so i give my opinions and facts i gather and share them.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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zelda64
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28. December 2005 @ 10:57 |
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I see where your coming from Kookoo but textures and graphical quality will not increase becuase of a disc size. Only the amount of game.
People did belive CD's where going to be quite impossible to fill up, but this proved to be untrue. Then DVD's came out and proved that space was finaly not an issue because there is not one game I know of thats on two DVD's. However it is the next generation so games will be taking up more space. But not as much space as to fill two blue ray disc's.
When people are saying it will be extreemly unlikely that there will be any games that would come close to filling a blue ray disc, let alone taking up two discs worth of information, i beleive them to be true. This is simply becuase DVD was enough for the last generation so I cant see this generation taking up more than 4 DVD's even if it is a PS3 exclusive.
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28. December 2005 @ 11:14 |
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some games did. there was a version of ff10 that took 2 dvds. it was an enhanced version with more detail and effort. dvds were pushing limits on some older games, and with games on a pc like ut2004 taking up 5.5 gigs on instal from 2 years ago, imagine what it will be like in another 2 years. dvd is going to die wether you like it or not. yes, it will be used as storage media or and video for smaller non-hd movies, but as a gaming disk, it will be gone. and texture and graphic qualities have the oppotunity to increase because of the extra, almost limitless space. on a dvd, you cant have a lot of textures because each file is like 3 to 50 megs. and after a bunch of those it begins to fill up quite alot or you could have like 100 textures, saving space, but seeing the same patter often. i dont believe with the spacial differences that there will be too many crossplatform games, and if so, the DVD9 ones having less to them. size does matter you know ; )
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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KoOkOo67
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29. December 2005 @ 09:26 |
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Anibus, although biased sometimes....said something correct! lol
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anything with the amount of gameplay in ff in hd may even have to take mroe than one bluray disk, which is alot
Trust me....
FFx is technically 2 disks because of FF-x2.
They just chose to end ffX fast so it can be one of the firsts games for ps2. Im actually thinking that final fantasy 12 for ps2 is going to be 2 Disks+ aswell. I THINK..... Trust me if ffx was as long as ff8. FFX would be 4 disks aswell. concidering that ff8 was 3.2gb with ps1 textures. Lol. N e ways yea lets end this war now. we all know that ps3 has the advantage here. I dont know why people debate this. If you were to buy an actual blue ray reader right now, it would be 1000$. wernt dvd players the same?
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29. December 2005 @ 09:30 |
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yey i get praise! be a d.a., i dont get that often. anyways. id love to see onld games remade. like crash bandicoot. i remember when i was like 9 or saying "omg i dont know what ill do if they stpo making crash games!" i havnt played the new nitrokart and the 2 racer thing yet tho.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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29. December 2005 @ 20:01 |
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Hey everyone, sorry i haven't poseted in awhile...been busy playin the 360. It is so awesome!! anyways i'll try to keep you updated on the events on Xbox Live and such. Microsoft is even coming out with a new Xbox Live. It is called Xbox Live Diamond
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29. December 2005 @ 21:49 |
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how much more of your money do they now want for this diamond?
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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zelda64
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30. December 2005 @ 00:10 |
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Probably as much as Sony will charge extra on thier blue ray disc's. Sorry I said that but thats what I am talking about. Anything anyone says on the 360 anubis will come out with a negative.
Anyway, eureka when you get the chance can you tell me about this diamond feature that Microsoft will be releasing soon.
Also its understandable to why Microsoft charge for thier Gold service. Sony will charge more for thir games becuase of manufacturing cost's which is understandable. World of Warcraft had to charge to give everyone a quality updated service and look how well that has turned out. So Microsoft are charging in the same way as World of Warcraft for a quality updated, well designed and functional service.
If Sony do somthing similar to Microsoft I can see them having to charge people. If Sony dont then thats ok but things wont be as simple and as functional as xbox Live which is understandable becuase Sony dont have big offices of people working to a high standard getting paid to bring about a high quality service. I suppose its the same as terestrial TV and Saterlite/cable TV as well.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 04:20 |
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i think that xbox live is the best thing to happen to consoles since four player was introduced, not many people understand how good it is until they actually get an account for themselves and make friends and so on. a lot of people complain about halo 2 not being as good as halo but for me it was ten times better, maybe not in the single player but the thing is i only completed it once so the rest of the time i spent playing on live, its unbelievable fun once you get into it. but i think it got a little better with the xbox 360 b/c you can access your account from anywhere just by pressing one button and soon they will have the webcam which i am looking forward to, the only two bad points are that the headset is not as comfortable as before and some games have lag, which is suprising considering a game like halo 2 with 500 000 people on it at the same time had non, except for when some idiots starting moding.
oh and when M$ aid that they would bring out halo 3 the same time as ps3 i know that it would make a diff to the ps3 sales, b/c what other people do not understand is that people on xbox live are normally guys that go on like everyday and by the time halo 3 comes out it will give them enough time to get into their xbox 360 and their live, so it comes down to either wanting to spend a whole load of money on a good machine take it home platy with it on your own with the one game you got b/c the machine cost too much, or going to the shop pay £40 get home and play what could be the best game ever on xbox live with people you know and a whole load of other people.
oh and by the way my xbox 360 broke lol so i sent it back for repairs.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 08:09 |
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Halo 3 wont do nothing to ps3. The producers for halo 3 are probably going to be nulified because of the release of ps3. ps3 being more popular than the precios halo. People who dont like Halo, wont buy halo. Halo will never, never will any game nulify a consol. People dont buy a consol for just one game.....
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 08:13 |
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 08:18 |
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well kookoo i am not saying that it will destroy ps3 all i am saying is that it will hurt it i mean have you seen huxley it got 5000 people online with unreal 3 engine, and then you have gears of war and soo on. but my point is halo 3 will not be normal it will be the ultimate game i can garantee it, well not garantee it but i am pretty sure it will blow gears of war killzone 2 and MGS4 maybe not huxley after seeing the trailer and now know that its 5000 people online opr something.
anyways it will be interesting to see the look on most ps3 fanboys faces when they see what bungie has to offer, lol.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 08:32 |
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oh and as for ps3 being more popular than halo, well it is but i do not know about americas but most people here in england do not have 500£ to spend on ps3 even if they wanted to (£500 = $900). and b/c of the fact that ps3 has not got antialyizing or something so it will look even crapper on a normal tv than the xbox 360 did, so after buying everything your looking at about (£2500 = $4250) thats in the uk. i know that a lot of people have HDTV's in america but not here.
oh and another thing your correct when you say that halo 3 will not do anything to ps3 launch b/c by the time it gets to europe halo 4 will be under way. lol (england just got psp like a couple of months back) thats like one years diff between the japanease launch and european launch. and as for americans i heard they get it a good few months after the japanease too. (not sure about that though)
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 10:54 |
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zelda64
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30. December 2005 @ 11:02 |
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I know this is off subject but its good to hear about England and pounds again.
No one know's anything about Halo 3 yet. Even when it does come out I dont know if it will make a big dent in the PS3's sales.
One thing I can say is that what Microsoft have done with the production of a big budget film of Halo produced by Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings/King Kong) is a good idea. The film is more than likely to be very good becuase of the large amount of money being spent on it and the fact you have Peter Jackson as the producer. I can see this film making a dent in Sony's sales as casual gamer people will want to buy the game after seeing the film.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 11:08 |
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Are you telling me that people rather pay 400$+70$ just to buy halo? WTF? Playstation is way more popular than halo. Why the hell would you debate that? And who said that ps3 will cost 500$? WHO"? Your making predictions again? Or just trying to bring down the ps3? You get what you pay for. Obviosly ps3 has more than the 360. (blueray and ect.) You get what you pay for. I dotn know about you, but i wouldt spend 1000$ for a blueray reader, and only that.
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