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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 11:19 |
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ok firstly i do not know what you mean by 400 + 70 b/c all i am going to pay £50.
secondly once again you seem to think that i am saying that halo is more popular than ps3 and like i said before it is not. also i was talking about people over here not in america, its a well known fact that people of america with degrees earn more than people living in england who aslo have degrees. so if you want to spend 1000$ on your blu ray then go ahead but obiously not everybody in the world has that much money to spend likle that, and personaly if the ps3 has big advantages over the xbox 360 than why the hell can xbox 360 play anything the ps3 has to offer.
and thirdly M$ is apparantly loosing up to 150$ for every xbox 360 sold, so you telling me that sony with their stupid blu ray are gonna have the same price as xbox 360.
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30. December 2005 @ 11:33 |
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seriously halo is not that great. it can hurt a console that bad. my friends and i think its cool and all but its not gunna hurt anything. people getting halo 3 would have gotten a 360 anyways. plus on DVD9, how much detial and fetures, levels n music, can you think of putting into halo 3? if i were bungie and not owned by microsoft, ps3 would be my choice for it.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 11:38 |
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Do you know how much a blueray reader is going to cos?!
Do you know how much a dvd player cost when it first came out?
Did i say that 360 is goign to be more expencive than the ps3?
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and thirdly M$ is apparantly loosing up to 150$ for every xbox 360 sold, so you telling me that sony with their stupid blu ray are gonna have the same price as xbox 360.
Blueray is stupid? LMAO, it's either your a fanboy\girl, or your stubern. When did i say that ps3 is going to be cheaper than the 360? WTF? I said your getting what you pay for.
And i dont care how much its goign to sell for, or how much it costs to make. They arnt going to sell it less than they make it in a year for now. I'm pretty possative that m$ will be getting 150$ profit for each 360 they sell. Why are you pointing this out? Other than nintendo, sony and M$ have always sold there system less than they make it when it first comes out.
And im prety sure when blueray is out, its going to be 1000$, just like dvd player were back then, and people are going to buy them.
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30. December 2005 @ 11:42 |
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i wouldnt buy a new bluray player tho cuz id have a ps3 that can do it. plus remember how really old dvd dplaers and play some new dvds?
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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zelda64
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30. December 2005 @ 11:47 |
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Sorry to but in this argument but Microsoft will lose out on money with the 360 console just like Sony will with thier PS3.
Its a well know buisness tactic.
Do you no Guillet razor's? Well the actual razor with the blades and the case sell for cheaper than the manufacturing costs (or at least the same). Guillet make thier money from the actual blades which is why they are quite expensive becuase once you have bought the razor you have to buy the blades.
Its the same principle here. Both companys want to out do one another with a better console and as a consequence money will me lost on the console it self but thay make thier money from the games and peripheal's becuase once the customer has bought it they will have to buy the games and peripheal's. Quite clever who ever thought of the idea.
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30. December 2005 @ 11:50 |
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i think the ps3 is going to be the dominant system. my dad even agrees and he is very techy. its got blue ray (6x larger on dual layer than dvd9). it has xdr ram. it has an old cabnet of glames along with a new one with some promising games. on the 360 side, it comes out with a headset and hd, something were not sure ps3 has. it also has xbox live (but you can base a console as better by that), it also has the faceplates which some people like. i like thats the os3 has 4 different colors. game developers will start developing less on it because enjoyable games with good reply value will need the space, since even good home games are taking up 6+ gigs now. ms effed up this time around. and ps3 at the ces will let me know if they effed up too.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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30. December 2005 @ 11:53 |
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at zelda, do you know how much peripreals you have to buy to total the 150 dollar loss? most
people wonmt spend that untill atleast 2 years. how often do you buy new cords? and new
controllers? plus those all have their manufacturing costs.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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zelda64
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30. December 2005 @ 11:53 |
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Hey guys (espessialy Kookoo) there is somthing you should read.
This can start up a few arguments but its about the PS3 and 360 graphics card.
Its on www.ps3today.com
Here is the actual link
http://www.gamersreports.com/news/708/
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30. December 2005 @ 12:00 |
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dood how is the rsx not refined? its does more with less. the 24 pipes with 5.5, and the 40 with 2? i think rsx is better there. the speeds inside it are also better, and it doesnt have to share its ram, increasing it speeds. and the cell is not good for gaming? it can do multibplu amounts of data per each 7 spe. each spe is like a processor in it self, running like one but talking orders from a big guy. the 360 processor is like 3 big guys telling themselves what to do. sound very refined to you?
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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30. December 2005 @ 12:02 |
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and your going to trust a review from company that run for ms?
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 12:03 |
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Zelda, just reading, i read that ati said this......So i stop reading right there, but im goign to read it later, i got a feeling already abot what he or she said.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 12:55 |
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oooh i just read it zelda thanks soo much its what i try to say but am too stupid to do so, lol
i loved the bit where every time a guy explains how xbox 360 is better than the ps3 in like 3 stanzas a sony fanboy comes out with look at the tech sheet in like one sentance, and what i want to say is that its not about the tech sheet its how the hardware is put together and what it consists of not just the numbers.
i was laughing my head off reading some of the comments, lol.
if you have not read it than here it is again, make sure you read all of it including the comments.
http://www.gamersreports.com/news/708/
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 13:06 |
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OHHH PLEASE... obviosly someone who engeniered the sony would say oh, ps3 is better, and obviosly someone who engeniered the 360 would say the 360 is better. Heck they would be fired if they said the other one is better. Its like britney spears saying christina aguilara is better than her. You, fazyninja would be fooled by anything. I dont take time reading these articles expecially when someone who engeniered the machine, is reviewing it. I read what others have to say, others who dont include sony and m$. Ati or nvdea.
Oh please
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3 stanzas a sony fanboy comes out with look at the tech sheet in like one sentance
Please, give someone from sony who said those exact words. You are overexagerating. heck, i dont even say look at the tech sheet. I'm pretty sure you would believe anything that comes out of Ati's or m$'s mouth. Stop this now. I hate it when people use biased articles.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 13:22 |
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kookoo i do not know why you find my comments so offensive i mean i am not the one who gave you the link, i just talked about it so stop getting so f***ing fustrated
also i do not beleive everything that comes out of M$ and ati's mouth, i admit i slant towards xbox 360 mainly b/c i have one and b/c its fun talking to fustrated sony fanboys.
also if you think i am stupid then take a look at some of the comments your fellow sony fanboys left behind.
the first stanza is from a sony fanboy and the second one is from an xbox 360 fanboy.
eg.Written by mo (1) on 2005/12/30
People complain that the Xbox360 is just a high end PC, why? because it has a CPU, GPU and Hard Drive???
Well as soon as you idiots figure out how to render graphics without those things please let us know, I for one would be very interested.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 13:30 |
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I dont find your post offenive. I dont find anything about these consols things offencive. I find that there's idiot's who believe what ever they read. If i found you offencive, i would be offencive to you.(which i dont htink i am)
I have fanboys? No, im pretty sure taht they dont know me, it would be scary if they do. im proablably going to buy the ps3 an d360 after 3years release. I find my pc better, and pc's will once again beat the consols. concidering that Nvidea said that by the time ps3 hits markets, they said that there will be a better GPU on the market, and concidering that the p5 is coming soon right after ps3.
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also if you think i am stupid then take a look at some of the comments your fellow sony fanboys left behind.
Again you are implying this. I never called you stupid. I didnt even imply it. And i dont care about fanboys. I've even put anibus(a hard fanboy down many times) LOL
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figure out how to render graphics without those things please let us know
Ill find a way.........in a couple or many many years.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 13:52 |
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Try to keep this in mind, i do not think that what the ati guy said about the 360 is false, i find that what he says about the ps3 is false, concidering he compairing the 360gpu to a geforce 7800, and concidering that the ps3 rsx is way more powerfull than the 7800, obviosy he would say the 360 is better.(after compaiing it to a 7800.) Do you find this right? Ppl from ATI have no clue about the rsx. No one even knows its architecture yett. They are all rumers and predictions.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 14:09 |
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you are proably right about what you say but i htink i have had enough about which consol is better, lol. its too much to handle. i think i will just wait till games like gears of war, frame city killer and huxley come out, and after all it all comes out down to the end product, one thing i must say is that every game that ps3 has released so far could have be done for the xbox 360, so untill the ps3 releases games in like 3 or 4 years that are much better than the xbox 360 games in 3 or 4 years i think that i will stick to the xbox 360. and one more thing do you not think that b/c the ps3 is coming out like a good year after the xbox 360 that it will give the game developers time to make better looking gmes on the xbox 360 at the same time ps3 releases, and this is not helped by developers stating that its harder to develop on the ps3.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 14:23 |
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also kookoo i know blu ray is good for large games but what if M$ just had more dvd disks that way they did not spend a whole load on a blu ray or is there more to the blu ray.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 14:34 |
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If m$ created blueray, they would use it, sony created the blueray, and isnt letting m$ use it for the 360.
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fazyninja
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30. December 2005 @ 15:30 |
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i have finaly come to a personal conclution, lol.
i beleive that there is not much difference between the xbox 360 and the ps3 and there will be non till a few years down the line, sure they have their own things like xbox live and blu ray but all in all they are pretty much the same and even if sony does pull out a better machine i do not think that the games they produce will look like killzone 2 at their launch. i mean all the games that ps3 can play on their machine can also play on xbox 360.
ps3 advantages - a little more powerfull (i think), has bluray, has good rpg's and has seven controllers.
xbox 360 advantages - xbox live already set up, produces great fps, in my opinion better controllers, removable faceplate and a lot more rpg's than before.
all in all in my opinion i think if you
like to play with other people on fps then go for xbox 360.
like to play longer more solo games then go for ps3.
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zelda64
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30. December 2005 @ 19:26 |
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WOW! alot has happened here since I have been gone.
Really really Sorry guys if the link I gave was biased information. I havent read it yet. I was getting ready to go to work while looking at the latest PS3 news on PS3today.com and noticed it so thought I would post it to see what you lot think. Well I am back from work now so i will take a look at the information but sorry if it is biased, I dont like using biased information.
I will read your posts to. Lots has been said while I have been at work.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 19:30 |
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As you said somewhere, your website, DID cause a bunch of arguements.=p
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Reasons?
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30. December 2005 @ 19:31 |
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I am a little tired of everyone saying that the online with XBL is so much better- The following observations are from PDZ, COD2, Quake 4.
1. NO CLANS????? Not yet. Pshhhhhhhh
2. You cannot see a lobby>Room listing of where your friends are, you have no idea how to play with them
3. You cannot select a friend and "Join Game", it's non-existent. If they want to, tehy can send you a game invite for the 10 minute syou have left of the COD2 match.
4. YOU ARE ALL EJECTED AFTER THE GAME, no chat, no time to talk invites or clan (hypothetical clans), NOTHING
5. Now that you have all benn ejected WhrTF di your frineds go?? Let's all join a random room and send each other tons of game invites.
6. That lead sme to- random game organization based on trueskill????? GAY, fcuk that. I want 200+ lobbies by region of USA or world, capable of housing Rooms custom created by a host, and each room can have say 200-300 people. Sounds liek socom 3 to me. it's so sweet
7. Customizing rooms? non-existent in COD2, the only game where it woudl be fun, because PDZ is garbage
8. COD2 lags like hell even though we have to pay a monthly fee for XBL gold, I have never played a game with mro ethe 6 people because people are ejected until the server can handle it. And 50% of the time it just crashes.
THERE IS SO MUCH MORE I COULD PISS AND MOAN ABOUT!!!!!!!! If one game hs something, everythign else is missing, liek PDZ is just plain missing... gameplay!
XBL is bullshit, there is no community, Microsoft talked up all the community BS, and now ther eisn't even any Clan system syet, no friend auto game join, no brieifng rooms where you can chill with your clan or new players/friends.
THE MIC IS OPEN, WTF, IT CLUTTER, You cannot converse. There shoudl be turn based mic system, push and hold, one person talks at a time.
Again, XBL is GARBAGE.
It lags worse than Socom 3 in all four games I have. It's bs.
Lets review
XBL is not better than many many sweet PS2 games I have played online
There is no community, you cannot form a team for many games after another
the friends feature is a joke
the open mic is the worst
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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zelda64
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30. December 2005 @ 19:38 |
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Iam not even going to bother reading Reasons? post.
No one can comment on either online facilities of xbox live or PS3's internet.
All one can say is that microsoft have a bit of experiance in the area so there is a chance that thiers will be better. However we have to wait until CES.
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KoOkOo67
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30. December 2005 @ 19:40 |
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Were those his observations? Reasons? you use to have a 360 right?
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