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zelda64
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4. January 2006 @ 11:43 |
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anubis where are you coming from. I had a genesis, very nice console not forgetting matersystem and mastersytem 2. Sony's first console not Sega. can you read the difference in names there. Must say though that my two most favourite consoles ever where the Genesis (with Mega CD) and Playstation 1.
Kookoo you read me wrong. Sony, Samsung ect are well known companies in the electrical appliance area like TV's. Nintendo is a well known company in the console area, I was not suggesting Nintendo as a company not to choose.
Well I lived in England and Saturn sold here and I have come to Australia and they have second hand Saturns here. Maybe I have read your post wrong like you did mine.
THIS IS NOT THE POINT. my post was not ment as an argument over the history of consoles it was ment to suggest that the new kid on the block in 1995 was Sony with no experiance or known games. Please read my post again bearing what I have said here.
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KoOkOo67
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4. January 2006 @ 11:45 |
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OH, maybe it sold in some stores. I dont remember what i read before. But i know it didnt sel in CAnada. Unless I am mistakened. It didnt sell in Japan. Thats for sure.
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zelda64
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4. January 2006 @ 11:54 |
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This is not the point I am trying to make. Regardless of wherether or not Saturn sold in some places and not others why on earth did the Playstation do so well?
It was a new company with no experiance and everyone thought the N64 to be more powerful and Saturn to be just slightly less powerful. These two well known computer game giants where taken down by a company that was never had any experiance in the area.
The reason why it did so well is because all of these new good games like Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, GTA, etc. No one really cared to look at them becuase they where all to interested in Sega and Nintendo. It wasnt until these games came out that people began to relise.
That is my suggestion with the 360. From my past experiance I have seen games here that look and sound new and refreshing just like the PS1 games did when I read up on them and hardely no one else did. I dont think anyone will take much notice of these games until they come out. PS3 have good games but most I havent seen or heard yet so I cant comment.
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KoOkOo67
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4. January 2006 @ 12:43 |
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I think playstation 1 was a great system because of the variaty of games. Playstation had all genres of games. Ps1 had First person, RPG's, advenrure games. Name any genre the ps will have it. same with the ps2. Name one good 10good rpg's for the n64 and sega saturn. For what i know, there was only 1 RPG for N64. Sony stole Final fantasy.
This goes along with ps2. And that gen eira.
ps2 had every genre, and many of each.
Xbox, had little Rpg's. And little variaty.
And GC had the least.
This is most likely to happen with the ps3.
And i think Sony was observing the sales and everything about the Previos consols before it. So i guess they DO have experience. All they needed is Money. They know about the sales, And i'm pretty sure they knew how to make a consol. It was up to the game developers. Obviosly If a game developer sees that PS2 sold 100million consols, compairing to 30 &20mill, they would most likely make the game for Ps2, since they will make way more money.
Get what I mean?..
Power of the consols ment nothing. Ment nothing last gemn, wont mean anything this gen. N64 was the most powerful consol. But did it sell most?
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KoOkOo67
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4. January 2006 @ 12:47 |
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And in theory. Since the xbox360 is doing worse than the xbox, vecause of the shortage, game developers are going to turn away from it.
Need proof? 360 has less games in production than the ps3.
And PS3 Isnt even out yett.
I predict, that by the time PS3 comes out, it will already have more games than the 360. Knowing that 360 wont restalk utill arround spring. (spring being when ps3 comes out)
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HOWJORD
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4. January 2006 @ 13:12 |
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What are you on about??
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4. January 2006 @ 13:47 |
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i know. but i liked my genesis.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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Reasons?
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4. January 2006 @ 13:48 |
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I'm pretty pisse doff at Microsoft right now about the number of Xbox 360 games. Yeah yeah, 18 was GREAT.... FOR LAUNCH, now I sit over a month later with all 4 games I woudl care to buy, and about one that was worth $60. WHERE ARE MY NEW GAMES.
I haven't see jack squat, or seen release dates, AND, that's beside how many games they have to put out before ther ei one i woudl play, much less buy.
The nice thing about Sony, is that their launch line-up has about 3-4 games that are die-hard must haves for me. Xbox 360 just had a PC port COD2, and that was it. Second best was ANOTHER DIRECT PC port, Quake 4.
I am not a fanboy, but I have to admit that 360 is really pissing me off right now, and PS3 already has an array of must haves.
Wheres the release date for Gears of War?? So far it's 2006....
Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.
Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.
Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K
My advice: Wait for PS3.
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HOWJORD
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4. January 2006 @ 13:54 |
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give it a chance mate its only been a month
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4. January 2006 @ 14:01 |
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he basically named alot of the things i have against the 360 right now.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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4. January 2006 @ 15:26 |
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new games will come chill out. Ps2 did exactly the same thing, I remember everybody complaining about ps2 at one time
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HipN
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4. January 2006 @ 15:39 |
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Ps3 shoudl have 2 shoulder butons and 2 triggers, I liek the triggers on Xbox controller.
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4. January 2006 @ 15:45 |
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I like the 360 controllers, it dose not cramp your hand like some people say
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4. January 2006 @ 16:59 |
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i dont like the 360 contoller trigger setup. i have to reach too high too often and its
bothersome. i like the design for triggers on the pelican wireless contoller.
 sorry for frenchness.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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4. January 2006 @ 17:05 |
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anyone see the pics? i look like [ ? ] to me.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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4. January 2006 @ 17:08 |
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Yeah I knew you were there thats why i said some people. That dosen't look like the controller that came with my system, If you haven't figured it out, I'm a crabby ass american,I wonder if the controllers
your talking about and the ones I got with my 360 are the same, because the ones I have look nothing like your picture
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4. January 2006 @ 17:12 |
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those are for ps2. i was just saying what i like.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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4. January 2006 @ 17:18 |
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I liked my ps2, but my box I liked better,I love my 360, I will like the p3 if it is better than the 360,but if it's only eqaul to the 360 it will be a flop in my opinion
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zelda64
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4. January 2006 @ 20:22 |
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I know what your saying Kookoo but I would have to differ.
Microsoft are purposly playing the shortage game to creat a feeling of urgency (a well known selling tactic). There will be no shortages near the time of the PS3 release which is what matters. As far as game developers are concerned the PS3 has sold ZERO units so it would be wise to develop for the 360 right now as there are units on the market.
Developers will not consider populartiy until a year down the line.
Moving onto veriaty. 360 has every variety of game now. The only one its missing is the RPG until Morrow Wind is released. I have researched into thier catalog of games and there is a large variety coming to the system.
I will research into the PS3 games as soon as their game list is released but it will most likely be a large veriety.
The xbox was a tester console for Microsoft (as what J Allard said when reading the offical xbox magazine). Microsoft was dipping thier foot in the water, so to speak. I believe the 360 will be a much bigger threat to Sony this time around.
I still think Sony will come out top in terms of sales but this time the gap will be much smaller.
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4. January 2006 @ 20:31 |
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As far as game developers are concerned the PS3 has sold ZERO units so it would be wise to develop for the 360 right now as there are units on the market.
For what I know, game developers are still looking to develope games for the ps2 & Xbox& GC, because they know they will make more profit than making a game on xbox360, that wont make an increase in sales untill that 360 is back in stalk. (arround spring late winter)
Trust me for a onosl thats not even out, and has 170 games underdevelopment(already more than the 360, and its out) The ps3 will still own the variaty of games.
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zelda64
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4. January 2006 @ 20:42 |
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I am sorry Kookoo and I dont mean to start an argument here but I think that to be untrue.
Sony has alot of people who like thier systems and know the name. Sony has alot of games in development right now at 170 but 360 has 160 in development just 10 less. I get what your saying, the PS3 has'nt come out yet but has 170 in development and 360 is out with 10 less in development. Regardless what console is out both have been shown and both had those amount of games in development when they where revealed at E3.
Regardless of that the main reason why I disagree at the moment (until CES) is that about four majour Japanese developers have said they prefer working on the 360. Not only this but the 360 exclusive games I have seen look and sound impressive.
The PS3 I belive will still have an upper hand in sales figures but I think it will be a close battle this time around.
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lxhotboy
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4. January 2006 @ 23:20 |
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xbox 360 being short in demand untill spring is not going to help them. It will only hurt them. That was the purpose of releasing ahead of the ps3 to get a jump in console sales. If they do have more systems released around the same time as the ps3 being released then they are going to have trouble selling those 360's. You can go to various voting polls online, or even posts here on AD forum and see that most people are planning to buy the ps3 and not the 360. Now dont get mad at me i am just stating what i see from peoples posts and some of the polls from voting of what fans plan to buy.
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zelda64
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5. January 2006 @ 00:38 |
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I have no need to get mad about that as I like both sytems although I am slighly more convinced personaly on buying the 360.
Those polls I personaly wouldnt trust as a good means of finding out what console will sell better. The reason why I say this is becuase many of those people are hardcore gamers and fans. Playstation over the years has built up quite a big fan base so will likly be ahead on the polls. However N64 and Saturn where ahead on popularity back in 1995 but PS1 took over when it came out becuase of the good games that came out. Thats what I'am trying to put accros. No one knows what these 360 games are like, like no one knew what the PS1 games where like back in 1995, thats why everyone wanted for Saturn and N64 until exclent games like Tomb raider and Resident evil came out.
I just read and looked at the 360 games and saw the same in them as I did with the PS1 when I read and watched those games in 1994 before the console came out. I might be wrong but I have read some promising stuff, but Sony could come out with some better things at CES, who knows? But at this moment I must say the 360 games line up looks every promising.
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zelda64
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5. January 2006 @ 00:40 |
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Nearly forgot. The 360 shortage is done on purpose. It was done with PS2. I cant say for sure but being in sales my self I use that tactick to sell memberships where you create a short supply and demand to creat urgency which increases sales and supprisingly works.
A bit of proof on this is the high pre order list. Consumers want to make sure they get a console so pre order. This is a sense of urgency. If not then they would just wait until thier local electrical store got more 360's in stock.
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5. January 2006 @ 01:08 |
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i mentioned the lack of product being a purposeful act about 5 weeks ago.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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