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Ps3 and Xbox 360, a war to come..
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14. March 2006 @ 09:16 |
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i didn't say not to talk, i said deal with facts lol.. and i am not new to this thread lol.. i've posted in this thread before.. seems like your memory is a lil boggy.. i was reading along for most of the thread just never bothered answering.. but it was gettin carried away.. its a dead topic.. i made that one post to really just kill the topic and put a end to this thread..
one question, why would you argue and not make sense?
Still don't kno why you took it personal, you work for MS or something?
Realize this is just a discussion, outside the afterdawn world my opinion holds no more weight than yours dude, not one ounce.
So like i said before, relax.
*passes rabbity a blunt*
here dave * passes dave a beer*
*picks up a beer for him self*
now lets all just chill and watch barney
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rabbity
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14. March 2006 @ 09:17 |
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ok look i am not trying to start something here, its just that when i talk on this thread i normally know everybody on here, so i know that they know where i am coming form so i do not have to make myself very clear. but obviously if you come here for the first time and see me saying somehting, then you will probably take it the wrong way, like the other day i said that nintendo was great and how inovative it was, and some guy came on and said i was a nintendo fanboy, when actually i plan to get all three consoles, and have no real interest in the rev as i do say the ps3 or xbox 360.
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14. March 2006 @ 09:19 |
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no i am not saying that he can not join the discusion, but what he said was stop talking on this thread. and then he comes out with a whole load of facts, and tells us what we are and who we agree with. for all he knows i might agree totaly with him, but instead he wanted to tell what he thought we knew.
why would you argue against sony this whole thread if you agree with me??
wtf???
ok dude you got it right there.. i will leave this thread alone on that note..
i don't kno what u been smoking
*grabs blunt back*
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14. March 2006 @ 09:22 |
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. but obviously if you come here for the first time and see me saying somehting, then you will probably take it the wrong way
didn't i say i am not new.. i posted in this very thread before.. i was reading much of it and i would laugh at some of the things said.. my first post i pulled quotes from like 7 different people from different pages and answered them. Stop calling me new for chrissakes..
I still don't understand why you argue against something you believe in..
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14. March 2006 @ 09:24 |
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yes but this is a new thread, what about the thread ps3 vs xbox 360 that where most of the major discutions would take place.
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14. March 2006 @ 09:27 |
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24 pages of discussion and you call it new.. w/e
have a good day..
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14. March 2006 @ 09:36 |
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the ps3 vs xbox 360 thread has 64 pages. lol
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14. March 2006 @ 09:44 |
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what does that have to do with anything? this thread was started in december and you call it new?
this wasnt started last week or two weeks ago, its 4 months old. if the subject was so new so many ppl wouldnt be asking for it to die. this makes no sense.
I think you're pugnacious by nature and your means of reasoning is abhorrent.
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14. March 2006 @ 10:12 |
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no i mean in comparison to some other threads.
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14. March 2006 @ 11:18 |
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ok, im not even gona bother
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14. March 2006 @ 16:36 |
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@ Joeva If you don't like what they are talking about or excuse me posting go to a different thread and spew your crap on someone else. Until the Ps3 is relesed you have no Idea what the launch will be. When was the launch Date??? There isn't one today and there will not be a launch date for some time. We don't care how good the launch is in japan it doesn't have an effect on us, all we care about is the launch in each of our areas.I am sure you won't like this post either,but I don't care. Either join in on the thread or don't post.You don't have to like what people write but you can't control them either.
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14. March 2006 @ 16:40 |
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uhall dont get so agro, he was just bringing up a point to show that the 360 issnt all that everyone is saying. like the sales in japan were pitifuyl. i also hate ms using its "omfg we sold out that mean everyone loves it and u need it now!!!!!!" but there was shit for supply top begin with.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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14. March 2006 @ 16:48 |
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I'm not , I would never think the Xbox 360 would do good in Japan that is Nintendo and Playstation stronghold that Xbox will never crack .
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14. March 2006 @ 17:32 |
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the the ps3 will hold america, too
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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14. March 2006 @ 18:13 |
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We will see, only time will tell.It needs to be released real soon ,I guess later is better than never.
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14. March 2006 @ 19:15 |
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@ Joeva If you don't like what they are talking about or excuse me posting go to a different thread and spew your crap on someone else. Until the Ps3 is relesed you have no Idea what the launch will be. When was the launch Date??? There isn't one today and there will not be a launch date for some time. We don't care how good the launch is in japan it doesn't have an effect on us, all we care about is the launch in each of our areas.I am sure you won't like this post either,but I don't care. Either join in on the thread or don't post.You don't have to like what people write but you can't control them either.
*sigh* why would i care about this post? Nothing factual in this post, you are just talking of your opinions with no factual backbone. However you felt about my posts are one thing, but you cant argue facts.
Why do you guys still talk about the launch of ps3. Its your fault. If 360 had been selling in the quantities they said they would, then ps3 would have been rushed out. Its no sweat for Sony right now. They are dealing with pressure from Consumers who don't want to wait anylonger, but aren't feeling any pressure from 360s sales. So they'll release it when they are ready. Like I said they don't really care what we think, cause they have still delayed it. Until people start buying 360 in large quantities, what's the rush?
And I didn't just talk about japan. I made mention that 360 and ps2'
s us launch were very similar. Where MS were saying they were going to triple ps2's us launch alone?
Like I said you are taking it way to personal. Look at the facts and admit it.
Sony's got it.
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14. March 2006 @ 20:39 |
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every good company console company has died, commadore, atari, sega, mattel, just to name some. if you havnt noticed nintendo was well on its way, but the rev may change that by leading into a different aspect of gaming. but retro gaming as a console can only last so long, and releasing a new console after the rev would be pointless unless it could really compete. sony may not be setting down soon tho. thru quality, quantity, and entertainment, the ps is a name both known and trusted, as well as respected. the xbox hasnt earned much of a name for itself yet, and poor original sales aswell as poor sales here have people wondering. sure it "sold out", but there were only about 800,000 consoles on release, and ms is nooooo where close to there "10 million in the first year!" but was lowerd to around 7. they are also aiming at 4.5-5.5 million sold by june, but so far are about 1/6 the way and its 2.5 months to june. they also are trying to make as many periphreals as possible to compete with the oncome of a supposedly insane machine. i do not see much important details in the ps3 that are not "next gen" and in the 360, i see nothing but an x1600 or x1800 at most. all the people i see playing the 360 kiosks look so ignorant and uneducated. its funny. what else is fun is the ps2 and 360 kiosks were right next to eachother, and i stood there for about 15 minutes reading a mag. about 10 people played the 360 or watched, and close to about 25 played and watched the ps2 and its newish guitar thing.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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15. March 2006 @ 00:30 |
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everyone check this out, http://www.ps3portal.com/
this link is easier to get info from, http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/15/ps3-press-conference-it-begins/
they have everything thats been said at the breifing today.
enjoy it or not.
f**k all of you who thought there wasnt gunna be an hdd, the 60gb comes out with the ps3, and has linux preloaded onto it. bluray is the reason for the delay. basic online service will be free. worldwide nov launch. 100% backwards compatability. 1080p not dropped, using hdmi 1.3. thats just a summary.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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15. March 2006 @ 02:33 |
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sounds like sony is actually keeping their promises, but sad that it will luanch in late 2006, that can not be a good thing for them. good info anubis
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15. March 2006 @ 03:21 |
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it wont be too bad. the ps2 is still outselling the 360, and the 360 is on all the major shelves. it will pick up in time, but with the extra time sony can fine tune and produce 1-2 million units per launch zone at the same time, with new ones imidiatly following. plus christmas time is when things sell, so it is a smart slot in these 2 ways.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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15. March 2006 @ 03:38 |
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no way will sony do a world wide launch, they will look after the japanese first and then ot the rest of the world, they did the same with the psp, "there were manufacting problems" same old same old. wait till summer and the us and europe launches will be postponed. the only reason why the 360 isnt selling as much as the ps2 is that there are just not enough of them. there are still shops in my area that have only just fininshed pre orders! of course when a kiddie goes to a game store with their parents, most cant get the 360 because its not there so they just get a cheap ps2, thats only reason why it would sell, with the ps3 around the corner. There'l be very little fine tuning from sony, they dont have the resources to fine tune their ps3. check out the profits that they made last year. out of all their departments only a few made a profit. and yes ms did lose 4billion on xbox but in a single year they can reap 14billion in profit. xbox is the true next gen console, ms is behind it so its a matter of time before they own video game industry. sony's machine is current technology when it comes to grpahical power. the cell sounds impressive but the cpu is hardly used in graphics these days. and Blu-ray sounds good but HD-DVD will come out on top. 360 has the gpu of the future, unified shading architecture!
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15. March 2006 @ 03:46 |
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there is nothing really fantastic with that, the 360's bpu is no more than in comparison to an x1600 or maybe and x1800 in performance. my friend has a gfx 7800 and it well ourperforms the 360, even with the same games in pc form. and if you havnt noticed, the memory and new drives will completely dominate load times. and the cell is going to be used for more than ngame, with hi def move playback, emulation rendering, and everyhting else you could dream it. you really sound fanboyish with your comments here, saying everything that is the 360, and everything ms backs up, is the best and will succeed. that and your neb status doesnt make you viable.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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Buncel33
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15. March 2006 @ 03:58 |
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because im new to this particular forum im not viable? are you just the biggest idiot or what?! i mean just becasue your new to a particular forum doesnt mean that you know less than other people, are you that stupid or are you just the biggest sony fanboy wannabe. You are comparing the 360 grahical capabilities to a pc pgu. Your comparison is flawed its just your to sony this sony that to notice it. You are comparing on games that have 1 been ported onto 360 from pc, ps2, 2. are 1st batch of games. The xbxo gpu is only just being manipulated to work like its supposed. check out gears of war. the best looking game seen so far in my opinion. yes cell will be good, but not as good as the 360 when it comes down to it. The cell can be used for hi def playback and whatever you want, but i buy a games console for games. if i wanted more id stick with the pc which will always end up being superior. and as for hi-def playback and the like, a stand alone player is going to offer better quality. the Blu-ray drives inthe ps3 are going to be cheap mother's if they are going to sell it like $500 and a stand alone Blu-ray player will be like $1000
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15. March 2006 @ 04:09 |
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those prices for the players are old and have been reducted some. but if you can get so much more for so little more $ why not?
and the comparission is not flawed, that gpu in the 360 is the same core found in some of radeons cards, but with a few mods too it. cod2 looks alot better on a pc than the 360, and porting should not cause a loss in details unless it cant handle it. the processor in the 360 is far less capable for most applications than the cell, with the cell over twofolding the floating point operation rates. and the gpu is faster clocked, dedicated ram, and its nvidia, who has shown themselves worth their buck over radeon. the load times on the ps3 will at minimum fourfold if not more the 360, with the speed of the bluray, the xdr ram, and the cell. pc will always win, but to even make a console that resembles a card not even close to the top of the consumer line is just plain, for lack of better words, lame.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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15. March 2006 @ 04:24 |
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obviously you aint looked into things. the 360 gpu is the first card of its kind to feature unified shading technolgy. this means that instead of when it is builing information to go onto screen it can be done more quickly. e.g. when info is being processed, the wireframe models have to be built first, then the pixels are applied to it so that the image is whole. that is how it is usualy done and you will get lots of times where the imformation to bulit the fram,e is slowed up. now with the 360 having unified shaders it is able to perform the operations in what ver order it needs to, so if info is being held up for the vertex shading (the wireframe part) then it can just get on with the pixel shading in that pipeline. thsi covers all the 48 pipelines that the 360 gpu has. the ps3 has 24 non unified shaders. clock speed could be considered irrelevant in the end. oh yeah and did i forget to mention that the 360 gpu automaticaly does 4x antialising so the system will not suffer from any slow down because its built into the gpu. the ps3 gpu doesnt do thsi it will have to be programed. the 50mhz extra clock speed doesnt seem so much now. oh and to top that the ps3 has to share its ram equaly, 256mb for one thing and 256 for the other. the 360 can put its ram where it wants to so if the video is doing litlle much it can devote ram to where it is needed. the ps3 apart from cell sounds very poorly designed. and google this. sony loses patent, dual shock. yes sony may be forced to drop dual shock from ps3
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