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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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MrGizmo
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4. September 2005 @ 12:15 |
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BTW..I think someone got offended by my nick. I never even thought of it...if you use a soft "G", you come up with a whole different name. Just so you know, we have a puppy named Gizmo, I named myself after him!
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redscorpi
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4. September 2005 @ 13:40 |
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i dont think anyone was offended my anything. i think biggermac just copied and pasted the "Report an offesive post" link by mistake, thats all.
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4. September 2005 @ 13:45 |
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MrGizmo dw i just wanted biggermac to edit his post :P gizmo doesn't offend me :P
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biggermac
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5. September 2005 @ 00:11 |
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> Biggermac....
> Quote:
> Report an offensive post
> What has MrGizmo said thats offensive?
Why is this being atributed to me I see it (Report an offensive post) at the top of other's posts in the margins underlined maybe it's a link, but not in the posts I wrote.. Maybe some kind of auto-triggered thing ???.
> I have occasionally been able to attain some speeds of 80Kib/s
> from time to time, but usually I get much slower
OK is that 80 kbps or 80 KB/s? 80 Kbps is a tad faster than dial up speed and 80 KB/s is 80 x 8 = 640 Kbps, which is acceptable. Do yourself a favor about a week after a good movie is released to DVD and you have 90 seeds and 50 peers if you don't get near 2 mbps or over 1 Mbps then there's a problem.
Disclaimer: Of course I myself would never download a copyrighted movie.. You can bust me for occasionally downloading a favorite TV show I missed.
> MrGizmo dw i just wanted biggermac to edit his post :P gizmo doesn't offend me :P
Someone point me where I told Gizmo "hey, you offend me". Perhaps a bit crude pointing out for others to see to that me and others have written and rewritten all about torrents of what we know (not an expert).
I have posted in this and another thread (BitTornado which I use) probably 6 times at least about upload speed at 80% and all kinds of other stuff but if someone doesn't say "this is my upload speed and this is what I put in the max upload speed box" then it's repeat time..
People need to get in the habbit of, when asking for advice, to post everything they have tried - don't be lazy - write out every setting and everything that's been tried..
This is advice for not only here in this forum, but in Usenet or other forums - wherever anyone asks for help, explain as if you are talking to a 5 year old..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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5. September 2005 @ 00:50 |
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@ biggermac I just thought you copied 'report an offensive post' on purpose, I just was asking what he did wrong!
Oh yes crude has multiple definitions
1) Undisguised or unadorned
2) Being in an unrefined or natural state
3) Unripe or immature
4) Characterized by uncultured simplicity
Which one did you mean and was it aimed at me seen as you copied and pasted my quote (MrGizmo dw i just wanted biggermac to edit his post :P gizmo doesn't offend me)
@ anyone struggling I have a guide on torrents which has some useful information in it :P
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5. September 2005 @ 01:45 |
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really sorry double post
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fidle
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5. September 2005 @ 08:36 |
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I just recently downloaded Bittorrent Beta 4.1.4 and my download speed is slow i have open the ports that i neede but it dosent help i have turned of the windows XP firewall and still no use. I have even turned of my router and it didnt help I dont know what to do.
I have SBC Yahoo DSL. can someone please help
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5. September 2005 @ 09:20 |
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fidle
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5. September 2005 @ 21:19 |
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Well the the link that you gave me didnt help at all. But in one of the post I read somerhing about setting your upload speed in the right place but i Dont know where to put i have it on 32 KB/s (DSL 768k up) where should I put it. here are my results for my conection
2005-09-06 01:04:20 EST: 1028 / 190
Your download speed : 1052809 bps, or 1028 kbps.
A 128.5 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 194836 bps, or 190 kbps.
Josh Cruz
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6. September 2005 @ 01:52 |
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i find bittorrent beta inefficient. bitlord & Azureus do the trick. btw congrats on becoming a senior, kwon
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biggermac
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6. September 2005 @ 06:48 |
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fidle, your upload speed being 190 kbps, in what torrent programs use is KB/s and it is confusing.. Anywho to get KB/s (notice a large B vs a small b for these two ways to report speed), 190 divided by 8 = almost 24 KB/s. Then you need to set max upload there to 75 to 80% of 24.. so subtract 5 KB/s from that and you have 19 KB/s - 19 (19 KB/s) is what should go in your max upload field.
Since I do not use BitTorrent, I use BitTornado, I can't tell you where to add the 19 to. If you download BitTornado it is pretty easy to know, it's right there in the opening window. Just do not use an "automatic" setting, instead choose "slow DSL" then just change the default number 25 down to 19 after that. And the other setting "max uploads" (not "max upload speed") you just leave it at 4.
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Well the the link that you gave me didnt help at all. But in one of the post I read somerhing about setting your upload speed in the right place but i Dont know where to put i have it on 32 KB/s (DSL 768k up) where should I put it. here are my results for my conection
2005-09-06 01:04:20 EST: 1028 / 190
Your download speed : 1052809 bps, or 1028 kbps.
A 128.5 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 194836 bps, or 190 kbps.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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shoe1985
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6. September 2005 @ 07:10 |
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I am going to let everyone in on a little secret. You know why your download speeds are slow? People limit their upload speed, which is your download speed. The only way to prevent this is put your upload speed to no limit.
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6. September 2005 @ 08:12 |
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Shoe,
that makes no sense, no limit uploading will not allow you to downlaod anything, as the upload will clog up your line.
The real trick to get fast downloads is join registered trackers and not use public ones, i upload 92 KB and get 380-450KB download depending on the amount of seeds using a 9 mb cable line.
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shoe1985
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6. September 2005 @ 09:49 |
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If you upload around 40-60kbs then we would be getting great speeds all the time. I use no limit upload speeds and have no problems. It all comes down to have fast the upload speeds are from the people you download from. Most people use the mininum which I think is 3kbs.
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redscorpi
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6. September 2005 @ 10:47 |
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shoe1985: you are giving out false information. you are lying to people and lying to yourself. if you set the "upload rate" to unlimited, you will--what they call-- "flood" your connection, which basically means you are giving out to much data and not leaving enough space to receive data (downloading data). the optimal setting for your "upload rate" option would be to set it to 80% of your connection's maximum upload capacity. (i find 75% a little better)
DVDBack: is it true you can get faster downloads from registered trackers? does "registered trackers" mean sites where you have to register to download their torrents? why is it faster? are they up to date with there stuff, like do they have the new stuff?
biggermac: i dont know if you know this or not but there is a better way to quote people on here. they tell you how to do this and some other stuff, like italics and bold, above the reply window where you write your post.
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fidle
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6. September 2005 @ 11:34 |
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well my download speed seems to be ok now it has gone up 60 but it keeps going down to 30 or 20 is this normal.
and now I installed Bittorrent Download Accelerator Pro. And when I open it, it tells me that there is no bittorrent installed in C:\Program Files\Bittorrent\btdownloadgui.exe. Iam using Bittorrent Beta 4.1.4 shouldnt the Bittorrent Download Accelerator Pro detect it.
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shoe1985
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6. September 2005 @ 12:56 |
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Yes, I had looked it up, and it is true. If everyone sets their upload speeds to around 40-50kbs, things would run a lot faster, but most people have them at 3kbs. This is so wrong for people that have their upload speeds at high speeds. Torrents are a good idea, but bad execution.
Even 10-20kbs would be ok, better then 3kbs, which is the minimum. This is the real reason torrents are slow.
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6. September 2005 @ 13:45 |
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DVDBack: is it true you can get faster downloads from registered trackers? does "registered trackers" mean sites where you have to register to download their torrents? why is it faster? are they up to date with there stuff, like do they have the new stuff?
Yeah it is sites where you have to register to download. It is faster becasue they have limits on ratio, for example if you fall under .8 thanb you get kicked, therefore there are hardly any leechers and a lot of seeders, therefore extremely fast speeds.
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biggermac
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6. September 2005 @ 13:56 |
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shoe1985 (newbie): Yes, I had looked it up, and it is true. If everyone sets their upload speeds to around 40-50kbs, things would run a lot faster, but most people have them at 3kbs. This is so wrong for people that have their upload speeds at high speeds. Torrents are a good idea, but bad execution.
Even 10-20kbs would be ok, better then 3kbs, which is the minimum. This is the real reason torrents are slow.
What - is that shoe on your head or what? You don't even know the correct terminology, let alone getting the whole concept wrong. 3 kbs means the same thing as 3 Kbps. A dial-up modem is at 56 kbps. Perhaps you meant 3 kBs (capital letter B for Bytes, small letter b for bits, 8 bits = one Byte), or better put, usually written KB/s.
Where did you look up this gem? Torrent programs are written just so that there is no cheating. It's not like other P2P networks where you can choose to not make available files for others.
With torrents, if you are not going to upload with good speed you can only download at a snail's pace. 3 KB/s is nothing. That's so slow an upload speed that I don't know what would happen..
Now understand this - everyone cannot set their upload speed to 40 or 50 KB/s. if this would work why even have the speed adjustable?
The torrent programs need room to operate withing your upload speed limit. Setting your upload speed max too high is almost as bad as too low. For optimum performance, you need to 1st know what your upload speed is, then in the torrent program you need to set the "max upload speed" to 75% to 80% of that.
I cannot see most people setting upload max to 3 KB/s as you say. Though I have never tested it, I'd hazard a guess that they would only be able to download at 10 KB/s (80 kbps - slightly more than dial-up speed).
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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shoe1985
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6. September 2005 @ 14:22 |
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If you don't know what I am talking about you know nothing about computers. I have tested this out on a few computers. If your upload speed it low, the other user will not be able to download at fast speeds. Torrents are written for you to choose your options to share, like what you will share, how fast you will go. Why do you think it lets you choose your upload speed, which is how fast the other person downloads from you. I know what I am talking about, I program using c++ and Visual Basic, and I am learning a few other programs now. I might not have used the correct terminology, but if you know anything about the internet or networking you will know I am correct.
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6. September 2005 @ 15:31 |
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Does anyone know how to remove a firewall from an E-Wire ADSL Modem from SBC Yahoo! DSL? I've tried their ridiculous website, but just like every other big-business site, they give you the run-around and never give you the answer. Just give me a response on that, or a link that will give me the answer if it's already answered. Thanks.
P.S.: ...Nevermind.
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biggermac
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6. September 2005 @ 16:48 |
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Rikoshay Junior Member:
Does anyone know how to remove a firewall from an E-Wire ADSL Modem from SBC Yahoo! DSL? I've tried their ridiculous website, but just like every other big-business site, they give you the run-around and never give you the answer. Just give me a response on that, or a link that will give me the answer if it's already answered. Thanks.
P.S.: ...Nevermind.
If you really do mean nevermind then nevermind this response. But I do beleive though he may not have exactly your brand, the most knowledgeable user who posts around here, "redscorpi", has posted about firewalls and DSL modems. He might be able to help, I see he has posted recently. Or you can try a search for his posts (there are a lot). If it works with a doubler filter, try the search-phrase "yahoo" and then narrow it down and select for only the redscorpi posts.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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biggermac
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6. September 2005 @ 17:09 |
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shoe1985 Newbie:
If you don't know what I am talking about you know nothing about computers. I have tested this out on a few computers. If your upload speed it low, the other user will not be able to download at fast speeds. Torrents are written for you to choose your options to share, like what you will share, how fast you will go. Why do you think it lets you choose your upload speed, which is how fast the other person downloads from you. I know what I am talking about, I program using c++ and Visual Basic, and I am learning a few other programs now. I might not have used the correct terminology, but if you know anything about the internet or networking you will know I am correct.
If I told you I had a PHD in common sense I guess you'd have to believe me because after all I posted it. I will say I am no expert in anything, but I had to read and ask and read and ask and read on the subject of torrents when I started, and having a router it took me a while to understand.
> If your upload speed it low, the other user will
> not be able to download at fast speeds
I have never said anything against this. Of course I have been saying this. But you absolutely need to limit your upload max setting to fit what your true upload speed is to get optimum download speed.
Just do a Google search and see.. A quick search gives me this bit of advice for using Azereas, which applies to all torrent getting programs. This is why you cannot just set the speed max to 40 or 50 KB/s if your speed is not at least 20% higher than that.
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How To Configure This In Azureus
Select or enter your max upload speed. To make this determination, let's use the example 512/256: 256kbps is the asymptote, and speed tests show your daily actual max is 224kbps, or 28kB/s. Eighty percent of this is about 22kB/s.
28kB/s would hog your entire u/l bandwidth capacity, and you don't want that, trust me. Tracker requests would be inhibited as well, which would also reduce your d/l speed. So for a 128 upstream connection, the best setting would be 8 or 9. And so on. Remember that 80 percent is the highest value you should use; feel free to experiment with lower
Now, what so you have to say - this is pretty much (the quote above) what I've read in other places. So is the advice wrong and you are correct? If you say " hey just everyone, set your upload max to 50 KB/s" it's not going to work out for the best if their real upload speed is only 20 KB/s.
I saw one BitTornado suggestion, I think this here website's BitTornado link, and it said something like 90% of your max, which is bad advice compared to other guides. For me a BitTornado user, the 80% (I use a bit less even because cable speed can vary) seems right.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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redscorpi
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6. September 2005 @ 19:41 |
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shoe1985: nobody is saying that setting a low upload rate will not decrease your download speed; it certainly will. But, guess what, setting it to "unlimited" will also decrease your download speed, because of the reason i stated. If you want to be hard-headed and don't want to believe me, DVDback23, biggermac or anybody on this forum, you can read it straight from the founders of bittorrent.
you can read about how you should always set your "upload rate" option to a little bit less than your maximum from here:
http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/OptimiseSpeed
here:
http://dessent.net/btfaq/#speed
or here:
http://www.bittornado.com/faq.html
if you are subborn and think you should keep it in "unlimited", do it yourself, and let your download speeds be slower than they should be. but don't give misleading information to people when you haven't learned everything there is to learn about speeding up bittorrent download speeds or at least have read some bittorrent FAQs.
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asifmac
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7. September 2005 @ 03:21 |
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Hi, im using bit comet, my upload speeds are always healthy, i try not to make it too high but its between 20 and 30 which is the max, I have decreased it so it doesnt affect my downlaod speed that much.
But my download speeds never go beyound 30kbps, and usually i can download at around 240kbps. I read about port forwarding or something, its suposed to increase your dl speed, but im not sure how to do it for bit comet.
I have a belkin 54g router and in its utility the port forwarding service is called virtual servers, but i need to enter the follwing info, does anyone know what to put into them?
LAN IP Address - Protocol Type - LAN Port - Public Port
also i also have Azureus installed, and it was showing the yellow colour so i know a port is blocked
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