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Ps3 and Xbox 360, a war to come..
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27. May 2006 @ 15:20 |
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hay guys can you seriouslly imagine playing a playstation 1 game in high definision. omg there is no change here... it ggoing to suk playstation 1 games are all pixleated so its going to be worse on ps3.
playstation 2 games would be alright i suppose in high definision.
the grapics in the launch titles are rubbish there like some really god xbox 1 games, playstation has lots more power so whats up with all the pixerlated grapics in the launch titles. speaking of the launch titles is there anythink good coming out for the ps3 i looked last night at ign (i think) and there were no good games that were coming out, i saw all these cool snapsjhots ages ago but there are no cool launch games coming out,i know that launch games usally suck, but the ps3 ones are rubbush i want cool games at launch not have to wait a bit.
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27. May 2006 @ 19:26 |
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ut2007 may be a launch title or a 2nd title, and it what i'll be playing all te time every night forever untill the end of time, so you've got that. mgs4 seems pretty cool and so does killzone, but i dont know much about them. warhawk seems pretty fun since i'll get to test the tilt action at flying.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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27. May 2006 @ 21:32 |
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has anyone else heard about "intelligent environments?"
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27. May 2006 @ 21:49 |
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do you guys think the ps3 version of madden 07 will differ from the 360/ps2 version since it is going to release later?? personally i will not buy madden for the ps2, and will just wait it out. this is thanks to the lackluster effort ea put into last years madden for the 360.
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28. May 2006 @ 03:20 |
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th website i visited only had all these weird japinise gams , it didnt say anythink about kill zone and fps games, i might get one now after a year of the ps3 launch. reasonn for this is because the ps3 costs to much at the moment. can you order ps3 device kits yet? if so where could i get one. i heard you could get a ps3 dev kit after june onwards
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28. May 2006 @ 08:49 |
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its development kit
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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28. May 2006 @ 11:49 |
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What are they going to do for the next gen. launches next time? Their systems are already good enough to where you probably couldn't tell if they tried to bump up the graphics and effects. So what will they do next time? I think that's why Nintendo went the way it did. I think they thought about it and took the next step in video gaming instead of just boosting graphic power.
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28. May 2006 @ 13:50 |
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for the ps3 it has really taken a BIG step in the multimedia. also if you want fun games ps3 will be better, not to mention from what they said about the improvement on the online play, which will be great for games like ut07
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28. May 2006 @ 23:06 |
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thats exactly what they said after every subsequent console launch since probably the genesis. things can always get better. sure they look nice, but u can still tell they are games. they need real ultra-hd photos slightly modified to work with the repetition of textures. then have trillions of polygons for a single model of a vehicle. it will happen, give it time.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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28. May 2006 @ 23:17 |
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like anubis said, there is a lot more to come, maybe in 10 years we will be playing final fantasy movie graphics.
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29. May 2006 @ 06:07 |
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Well even though graphics will always get better there comes a time when someone has to take a step in another direction that's really what nintendo is trying to do with the wii. Microsoft is doing it with the new live. Sony howerver is trying to do it by drawing inspiration from everyone else. The ps3 will have a rich online experience simular to 360 a motion sensing control not quit as simular tech as it is consept wise to nintendo. It will also be a media center and pc. So these companies are realising that it's not just the power of the machine but the other capabilities and services they provide. Even the way you play is a huge factor now.
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29. May 2006 @ 11:22 |
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maby some of you havent seen what call of duty 3 and the new brother in arms game. the grapics are incredable its already like a cgi movie if not better, but i think grapics for game consoles are going to get to a point where the grapics can not get inproved. so then they will have to find another aspec of the console to inprove and wii has already done that, nintendo will update the grapics later on with better consoles. soon all game consoles will be vertial reality.
still does anyone know where you can order console device kits?
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29. May 2006 @ 11:27 |
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Everyone needs to remember sony has not proven the P3 to anyone yet. The Blind faith you guys are giving SONY is not deserved as of yet, the way everyone is talking we might as well burn our systems that aren't P3isk and kiss sony's culo. This thread is overdone and repetative as well as rehashed propaganda. Boring!!!
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29. May 2006 @ 11:39 |
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Well the graphics are amazing to the point where it's hard to tell whats CG and whats not all the more reason to come up with better ways of playing games
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29. May 2006 @ 12:04 |
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well yes graphics are great at the momment, like the new ping pong game on xbox 360 whcih in my opion looks great.
but remember when toy story came out how we were all amazed but now compare toy story to something like the finale fantasy movie then you will see a big difference.
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29. May 2006 @ 13:23 |
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yeah but there comes a time when you the human eye can no longer distinguish right?
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29. May 2006 @ 16:09 |
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then what nintendo is doing will become mainstream, an then a new cycle of gaming starts, with devs constantly trying to improve motion sensing. tht is my opinion though.
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29. May 2006 @ 16:59 |
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yeah but there comes a time when you the human eye can no longer distinguish right?
That is kinda what I'm trying to say. Like the light shading and frame rates are getting to the point where the human eye really can't distinguish if they were better. The only thing's they can do if they keep boosting graphics is make images look sharper, heighten the number of colors, and boost polygon count.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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29. May 2006 @ 20:14 |
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you are right. and there are and infinate amount of different shadings and lightings and colors in the universe, and improving on their efficiency in comparison to the "RL", and improving water to be so perfect. i believe that the games will get to a point were physics and graphics are so real it will be its own univers. that that brings to question our life, and the universe as we know it.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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29. May 2006 @ 21:46 |
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i myself like more and more realism into games as much as possible. i like the current increase in overall AI and physics. Im hoping more games will mimick the likes of oblivion where if you drop or leave something it will remain in that spot through the course of the game, and not just disappear. i have read in assassin's creed that your player's actions will influence how crowds and also guards react to your presence. the little things that can go very easily unnoticed like in heavenly sword the chick's hair flops around as it should.
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30. May 2006 @ 03:07 |
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yeah good AI is important, but it has never really affected me, as i always play online, wheather its pc or xbox live.
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30. May 2006 @ 06:19 |
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Hade you have a really strong point. To make games mimic reatily to the poing where the gaming world has even the small touches of our universe would be one of the greatest acheivement.
Example: Any action you take like cutting down an important tree should have a ripple effect on the population it affects.
Anubis what do you think about existentialism in relation to games worlds and characters.(I hope i'm not getting too deep).
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30. May 2006 @ 06:42 |
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what do you think about existentialism in relation to games worlds and characters
I don't think games can get any closer to telling us the meaning of life, as the idea's and perceived realism has been created by a human mind, with the goal of making games 'seem' real. However, AI in games is still a simulation, it is NOWHERE near free will. The realsim perceived opens up interesting questions about 'what is reality?'. Modern gaming definetely backs up the old 'brain in a vat' philosophy.
My opinion is we have some impressive technology, that's only going to get better, but I think we'll create AI before we find the meaning of life. (Is anyone else worried about the possibility of AI? XBL and MS' plans are a lot like Cyberdine (sp) in the Terminator movies, the way we are all connected etc.)
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who know binary, and those who don't
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30. May 2006 @ 07:34 |
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in an interview with Kojima he said this:
"I do not want to create a set anymore. I want to create the environment from scratch. So if I were to continue the example of a jungle, I don?t want to create fake jungles anymore. I would like to plant a tree, put a life-form in there, life program in there, so that in the game, when you water the plant, it will grow. If you don?t water the plant, it will die. What I would like to present to the user is now play our hide-and-seek game in this real world, not the set jungle that everyone competes on."
http://www.ps3blog.net/2005/08/15/metal-gear-solid-4-by-kojima-pr...
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30. May 2006 @ 07:43 |
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Kojima is certainly the man to do something like that. Still though how much is current AI atlease mimmicing life, much less acctually living? From the enviromantal level to the characters how far have we really come and what are we capible of right now?
I still see in some games that when the difficulty is turned up all that happens is that the game shoots better, what about situational analtysis?
Anyways....................................
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