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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 22:31 |
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i THINK iv explained many times why ps3 kz2 was(might) prerenderd.
It cant run on a 2.4ghz processor. End of story.
Its gonna look that good. It doesnt look better than mgs4, so whats all this fuss?
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zelda64
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10. February 2006 @ 22:59 |
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Killzone 2 looks alot better than Metal Gear Solid 4 thats why there is alot of talk at the moment to if Killzone is real or not becuase Metal Gear has been proven to be real time. So if Metal Gear was better in graphical quality the debate over Killzone 2 being real time would be non existant.
Also my last post was more directed towards anubis so please can anubis answer my last two questions.
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CrisKahn2
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10. February 2006 @ 23:29 |
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I think Gears of War is already over rated and it didnt even come out yet. Just cuz its a fps that looks alot like Halo2 with all the blue, green, and purple colors everywhere. Kinda weird how ppl here seem to know everything about a game(that hasnt even been released) like they were the ones that developed it or something.
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zelda64
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11. February 2006 @ 00:07 |
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It seems like you know nothing about the game. First its not a fps, Second there isnt alot of Blue, Green and purple colours in it like Halo. In fact the only similarities between Gears of war and Halo is that thier both set in the future with the enemy being an alien life form.
Also please look at the posts and relise that we are not discusing how good the game is but the graphical capabilities of the game. This is exactly the same with Killzone 2 another over hyped game that isnt near completion but the disscusion is on the graphics.
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rabbity
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11. February 2006 @ 00:17 |
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well said kookoo (for the second to last post), also kookoo the ingame vid that is on my sig is not GOW at its best, anyways, zelda i think that the pic at the top of this page is pre-rendered, BUT, only b/c i do not belive there is a move where that guy can hold the bad alien guy buy the neck and have all his alien friends watch like stupid idiots, but i do believe that when GOW comes out that it will be very close to that, in graphical terms.
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rabbity
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11. February 2006 @ 00:22 |
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yes we are just talking about the graphical power of all the impressive games we have seen so far from these systems. also how can you not like the gameplay anyways, it looks awesome for all three games, GOW, killzone 2 and MGS4.
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zelda64
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11. February 2006 @ 00:29 |
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rabbity you are correct. That image was done using exactly the same in game graphics but for that particular pose to promote the game.
If that is what all this argument is about then I am sorry becuase I have miss understood. That image I belive not to be in game as I have not seen it in game and I find it hard to image how you play such a scene like rabbity swuggests. However I stand by the fact that the image is created by the same graphics as the ingame and not a pre-rendered image but an image created with the in game engine.
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Soli
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11. February 2006 @ 00:30 |
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Just thought id say, at the time of kz2 and mgs4 being shown it was said in the official ps2 mag that kz2 was only a graphical representation of what the game might be like, as when the vids where shown, the only game anywhere near a playable stage was mgs4.
Thats also why alot of people started saying that the ps3 would be delayed, cos none of the games would be ready on time for launch.
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rabbity
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11. February 2006 @ 00:37 |
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KoOkOo67
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11. February 2006 @ 07:48 |
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fanzy, that last posted website about 90ty 9 nights or w.e looks more realtime than any other game.
GOW is overated just as much as KZ2.
You dont know if kz2 wont look like that, so why are you saying its going to look like crap? Just wait and see. GOW cutscenes vs gameplay have differences. Just not huge differences. You can notice these differences, im just going to wait to see first.
And i dont know why you guys are like thikning that these games are showing the graphical power of both ps3 and xbox360, when its not. Wait for 3 years to see how games will look like, then compair.
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rabbity
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11. February 2006 @ 11:20 |
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hell yeah in 3 years the dust from the grinded up cd's of gow and kz2 would have disapeared in time and then a new era be upon uis when games really do look pixar quality.
also i did not say kx2 was crap i said if it can be that good as it was as e3 then it will be awesome, and if not then it will probably be like gow which is still good but not as good.
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rabbity
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11. February 2006 @ 11:49 |
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zelda64
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11. February 2006 @ 12:25 |
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That comparison looked very good. I dont think everyone should put down GOW and KZ2 that much when nothing much has really been said or shown. Yes they are both very very hyped up at the moment but becuase of that you shouldnt just presume that both games will not be any good.
Within 3 years time both consoles will have graphics that will show the potential of the console but not the full potential until around the end of its life. With games looking as good as GOW on 360 at the begining of its life then both PS3 and 360 will have very nice looking games toward's the end of thier lives.
This then brings me onto what the next generation of console will improve apon on this generation when the graphics are good enough already and the facilities of the console's are satisfactory as well like online and blue ray.
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zelda64
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11. February 2006 @ 12:42 |
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HOWJORD
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11. February 2006 @ 13:24 |
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HOWJORD
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11. February 2006 @ 13:32 |
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KoOkOo67
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11. February 2006 @ 13:33 |
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The cost of 4x speed isnt gonna be that high,(in consols) this is because the cell can handles the ps3 already. Unlike a dvd player where you need much more extras to play .
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HOWJORD
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11. February 2006 @ 13:37 |
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what do you mean? the cost of the 4x wont be that high "in consoles"??
do you mean there are different blue ray drives for games and movies
if so sony may lose out as most people may buy the ps3 just for a cheap blue ray player.
please explain
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KoOkOo67
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11. February 2006 @ 14:46 |
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One SPE has enough power to power the blueray reader, unlike a bluereader, you will need a power unit and more just to have the reader running. (this is what adds the price to the blueray)
The actual Blueray players cost much more when built alone. Built in always cuts costs. Thats why int. video cards are being much more popular in new PC's.
The bad thing about built in stuff is that...
-int v cards use the CPU's memory
-built\onboard players\readers take up the CPU.(ps3's spe is being used just for the reader.
I've actually read an article about htis, ill post it when i find it.
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11. February 2006 @ 17:13 |
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those pictures up there are, but they're in a cutscene. and killzone 2 was pre-rendered, but they said it was realtime proof of what the ps3 can do. the reson it was prerendered is guz it was showed on a far weaker computer that could have never produce those graphics. they could have made it and recorded realtime, and then showed it as realtime.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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zelda64
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11. February 2006 @ 22:03 |
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Well I havent seen that picture as a cut scene. I think it was just devloper art for the game using the games engine.
Please dont refer to the pictures on gametrialers as proof of in game graphics. Thier low quality low res pictures that give no evidenc to the quality of graphics just like when you had a go at me once for posting bad quality Final Fantasy pictures.
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HOWJORD
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12. February 2006 @ 01:09 |
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12. February 2006 @ 05:20 |
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that was a nice article. anyone else reading it? it downplayed alot of myths that the ps3 will be nothing special and will probably overheat too. alot of other useful things were used to.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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oofRome
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12. February 2006 @ 14:59 |
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Yeah the article confirmed what everyone should be expecting. The PS3 to be less than what Sony hyped.
Oh well. It's still going to be a good system. A lot more titles...
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rabbity
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12. February 2006 @ 15:32 |
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i have now finally decided what to do, well i own an xbox 360 and i plan to keep it and enjoy my future playing it. i will deffinatly will buy the rev on the day it comes out. and i will also deffinatly buy the ps3 if i like gta 4, gt4, mgs4, devil may cry 4 and killzone 2 after playing and testing them at my friends house, but if i get a job by the time ps3 comes out then i will not bother, and just go ahead and just buy it anyway.
i dunno but for somereason, after reading that article i kind of see everything in a differnt light, instead of thinkning its a war i see it as owning and enjoying 3 nextgen consoles for their different features.
but that still does not mean that i trust sony, after their little display with klillzone at e3.
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