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lxhotboy
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12. February 2006 @ 15:57 |
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Yeah the article confirmed what everyone should be expecting. The PS3 to be less than what Sony hyped. Oh well. It's still going to be a good system. A lot more titles....
The articles most significant info to me is not the hype. Like you said it is the games. The library that they will offer. The games will make the system sell and whichever has the better library of games will be the dominate system. Halo alone will not be enough to put the 360 ahead of the PS3 in popularity.
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Nonetheless, Sony has already sewn up the developer support it needs more effectively than Microsoft has been able to, with Edge reporting that one publisher for example is committing 50 per cent of resources to PS3, 30 per cent to Xbox 360, and 20 per cent to Revolution
All these spec and stats of this system is more powerful doesnt really interest me as a debate and seems to be what everyone here in this thread is debating and loosing their cool about taking it so serious that some of us are argueing like kids now days. Who cares b.c the spec and stats of the system are not what you guys are goin g to be sitting down enjoying and playing on your screen. It is the games, titles, the library of titles that will only be offered exclusively to one system. This is the niche that will be diff for us all but you can hold me to saying that while both will be great consoles the ps3 being so much more hyped and having so much more fan support from the previous system is ultimately going to the the extra weitght that will place sony ontop of the next-gen of video gaming again. I am not going to try and predict exactly how far ahead they will be. Maybe a close race and then again it may not be, only time will tell. I believe that a larger percentage of the good software developers will choose to make exclusives for the PS3 than the xbox360. True, there is no way i know for sure but i have a big hunch that the developers know the hype behind the ps3 and would make games for the system that they thought would make them the most money if a specific title game is to be release exclusively for a console. But if i were to hear news in the futre about microsoft starting to buy up all the software developing companies then i would probably buy a 360. LOL. It all about the library of games to me with the ps3 maybe being slightly more powerful not a factor at all in my mind............ Any opinions here????
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rabbity
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12. February 2006 @ 16:15 |
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true but the way i see it is that, with games like super smash bros melee, gta4, burnout, halo 3, geras of war, oblivion, gt4, mgs4, and a whole load of others, this to me is very nice. so back to the point, when you say that xbox might not have that many good games as ps3, i would normally tell you what games to look out for and which games look amazing for the future of the xbox 360 but i am going to say go and do some reaserch and you will see that although ps3 has more games lined up, when you think about it not all of the ps3 games will be outstanding and therefore when put against xbox 360 games you get a similar amount of GOOD games.
http://www.clubskill.com/Game_News/2692
P.S. if that made no sence to you then, its b/c i am very tierd and sick of waiting for ghost recon 3, its just so damm good looking.
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12. February 2006 @ 17:11 |
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rabbity
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12. February 2006 @ 17:21 |
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i think thats from thats from pgr 3, they are trying to show off a umm just forgot the name of it, damm never mind anyway basically a new technology that makes trees and grass look nice, its only been used in pgr 3 and its in obivion and something else i think.
oh i just remembered the name it was speedtree, thats the new tech, kinda like what crytek brought out just not as good and also this is just for trees.
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12. February 2006 @ 20:55 |
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sony didnt do that, it was nvidia showing what the rsx can be cabable of.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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oofRome
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12. February 2006 @ 22:23 |
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In reality, lxhotboy, the gaming library could only be an advantage in only the first part of the PS3's life.
I mean if for some reason people decide that Sony's system isn't worth it, and it tanks and Revolution and 360 become huge hits, than you'll find developers begin to pour resouces into those systems and began to withdraw from the PS3. We as the consumers ultimately decide on which system will have the most developer support.
But for good or bad, PS3 will probably see itself on top of the industry again, and thus, win developer's support for the next console war, and the war after that for the same reasons.
However, the man on top never stays on top. I can't say when or why it will happen, but sooner or later people will drift away from Sony's consoles and move to another.
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lxhotboy
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12. February 2006 @ 23:35 |
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oh of course. i agree with you. I was a SNES and Sega Genesis die hard fan for years but change came one day. Never last forever.
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boki2002
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13. February 2006 @ 00:02 |
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my personal opinion when it comes to SONY, is that i hate them!! Not only do i feel that they just steal peoples ideas but i dont feel that their init for the people no-more unlike Nintendo (but thats another thread!) We all know that MICROSOFT will soon role the console market because their using their heads!!
ONE more thing - SOON THERE WILL BE NO MORE CONSOLES AS THEY WILL BASCIALLY BECOME POWERFUL COMPUTERS JUST DESIGNED FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!
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zelda64
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13. February 2006 @ 00:28 |
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Well said lxhotboy, very wise words. I think along the same line's as you although I defend the 360 on certain technical parts in the past because of the stupid things said against it.
Anyway I can certainly see where your coming from lxhotboy and I too was going to buy a PS3 for those reasons but my opinion and prediction is slightly different to yours. I think the PS3 will have a battle on its hands and although I think Sony will win I dont think it will be by that much.
Have you seen all the exclusive games coming to the 360 and all the new games made by very well established developers? Please take a look and you might see what I am talking about. Also games like Fight Night are coming to the PS3 aswell but when 360 is out now with those games running in the shop's and the ordinary Jo walks past the shop who knows nothing about games (except to enjoy playing them) see's those types of graphics he/she will be tempeted to buy the machine not knowing that PS3 can do the same.
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13. February 2006 @ 00:58 |
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13. February 2006 @ 02:30 |
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boki2002
If you going to make more pointless points like that, then just don't post on this thread. We don't need a stubborn diehard fanboy in this thread to deal with. We also don't need this thread to be closed.
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sony didnt do that, it was nvidia showing what the rsx can be cabable of.
It was nvidia showing off Luna, the Nvidia girl, the one they show when every new Nvidia card is made, she just looks better with every product. They show her because it shows what the ps3 can be cabable of. However the one at e3 looked amayzing.
Not dissagreeing with you.
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rabbity
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13. February 2006 @ 02:51 |
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the ati girl is not that bad either
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TruthMan
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13. February 2006 @ 05:56 |
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whats the ATI girls name now.
and DAM i have missed flamin TONS on this post.
crap.
hmmm, that weblink with the 5 page PS3 thing was excellent.
heres what i believe,
in europe the 360 will sell more than the PS3 because 2007 is simply way too late for the PS3. and as i live ine england, i know people hate waiting in europe. earlier = better over here.
japan PS3 will obviously win.
america, not sure but i believe the PS3 will account for around 50%, maybe?
if i was a fresh buyer, and i read that post (5 page one), and living in europe. i would say, why get a console, that will come out WAY after the 360, is no better power wise, and is far worse graphically than the full-on pre-rendered killzone 2 vid which sony blinded many people with into promising that the graphics will be like that, not even at the end of its lifetime will the graphics be like that.
the 1080P thing is a joke for most PS3 games too. i told you proper ages ago that to get a playable framerate at that rez would be unbelievably hard for detailed games. only cartoonie or other non intense (3d wise) games could play on 1080P nicely.
nearly all OpenGL games have a capped max framerate of 60FPS which, while 60FPS is solid more is always better. Even the smooth parts of the game wont be very very smooth like direct3D games can be/have at parts. (where the fps goes up to 100+ because of having no capped framerate). some OpenGL game tests show higher than 60FPS, but thats because modders modify the game a bit so thats no longer there. but you cant do that with the console games.
however it seems *processor* geometry wise the PS3 wins that one, but not by much at all. but graphical geometry (meaning the part done by the GPU) 360 wins because of the geometry instancing that ATI cards can do, making that geometry faster.
pity the 5 page preview/review on PS3 never stated that. i wonder?
this may seem totally biased but all i am doing is just highlighting points that stood out to me.
and if a was a noobie buyer, never saw specs of either console, like both sony and microsoft, then read that or other unbiased posts then(plus release date issue) then i would get a xbox 360. there are less letdowns with that, and microsoft didnt overpropmise half as mcuh as sony did, especially consersing the graphical capabilities of the PS3. (aka. killzone 2 vid).
Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......
Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.
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rabbity
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13. February 2006 @ 06:03 |
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i heard somewhere that sony wants ps3's life to be around ten years. wihcih would obviously mean that all power would have been harnesed by then and games woulod look awesome, but only one small probelm, what if in about 5 years from now M$ bring a new console out then ps3 wouls not stand too much of a chance. anyways i dunno much about this, just seemed interesting, to think about.
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rabbity
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13. February 2006 @ 06:06 |
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oh and zelda a long while back you showed us some pics of xbox 360 controller faceplates, but i have looked everywhere on the interent and can not find any, are they true and where do you find them from.
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13. February 2006 @ 08:57 |
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i myself think the ps3 will take 65-70% of the american market, 80-85%of the japanese market, and about 45-50% in europe. the ps3 is currently the most wanted, and sony is building suspense around it with a few leaks here and there. there is alot of want for it. there is also alot of want for the 360, and if ps3 doesnt show off with a bang before the new shipments of 360's are out, then sony will have a problem.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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rabbity
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13. February 2006 @ 09:53 |
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well you are probably right about the want for the ps3 but you did not calculate other factors such as how the price may affect some people, maybe some people were looking forward to playing killzone as it was at e3 and maybe people in eurpoe and other places that get it way after japan will get tierd of waiting. but apart from that i would agree on the numbers you showed above on how much people want it.
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13. February 2006 @ 10:04 |
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Sony will never take the american market.
Sony will allways take the japaneese market
Sony and M$ will split europe.
Not sure about revolution.
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oofRome
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13. February 2006 @ 10:06 |
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boki - although I don't agree with the methods in which you presented your ideas, I do have to admit that I liked hearing it.
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lol @ KooKoo: Dude he's not a fanboy. He's an anti-Sony boy. Get it right. ;-)
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KoOkOo67
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13. February 2006 @ 10:12 |
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is no better power wise, and is far worse graphically than the full-on pre-rendered killzone 2 vid which sony blinded many people with into promising that the graphics will be like that, not even at the end of its lifetime will the graphics be like that.
1. Sony did'nt lie, the developers of KZ did.
2. The graphics ar'nt far worse than KZ. What do you mean by this?
3. I'm pretty sure by the time ps3 lifetime is ended, the graphics will be pretty damn similar.
PS3 is'nt junk. Now please truthman, we've had this discussion b4.
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13. February 2006 @ 10:16 |
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i know you guys msut be sick of hearing from me about how the year 2006/7 for xbox 360 is awesome in games well its b/c not only having the big names that you have probably heard of such as gears of war, huxley, halo 3, saints row, ghost recon 3, mass effect, too human, out fit, fight night 3 and others, it also has laods more that just keep coming into the public eye everyday such as
http://www.oxm.co.uk/articles/news/hardware/transformers_clanks_o...
http://www.oxm.co.uk/articles/news/hardware/painkiller_dev_workin...
http://www.oxm.co.uk/articles/news/hardware/fahrenheit_dev_warms_...
http://www.totally360.com/gameinfo.php?details=newsid&newsid=147
http://www.gaming-360.com/?p=369
anyways these are just some of the games that people are not talking about, now you see what i mean by a lush line up, and trust me this is nothing compared to some other stuff i have read about. i am sure that the ps3 will also do well with games, i just think that like xbox 360 ps3 should bring out more new games instead of old repeated ones.
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rabbity
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13. February 2006 @ 10:25 |
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yeah truthman i haver to agree with kookoo on this one, i mean look at games like gears of war (i am talking about in game vids not prerendered stuff) it is the closest thing to killzone graphics we have seen, and if we there now then we will arrive at killzone graphics soon, well not soon but maybe in 4/5 years, i hope.
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13. February 2006 @ 10:38 |
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Developers of GOW know what they are doing. SDo do the developers of FF and MGS. (squaresoft) i will have to say have the most experiences. Has anyone seen how real the final fantasy movie looks like?
Heres advent children
Here is the spirits within.
This looks so damn real.
GOW really stands out from other xbox360 games. Not all games loook as good as others, and the compairison should be the good vs the good, and the bad vs the bad. A good compairison i think is MGS and GOW. Anyone agree?
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oofRome
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13. February 2006 @ 10:38 |
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The article made it pretty clear that the PS3 will never be able to make in-game graphics like the pre-rendered KillZone 2 preview.
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13. February 2006 @ 10:42 |
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The article made it very clear that games don't look like KZ, but that there is no telling what wil happen in 4 years from now. I do'nt know how you think this.
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