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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 10:35 |
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so i think it will be ps3, 70 mill only b/c most the ps3 fans seem to really believe that ps3 will have killzone graphics from day one and i think when it comes out they will be dissapointed, personally i am not saying that the ps3 will be crap all i am saying is that they will be more shocked than me or you about this as they are expecting killzone graphics. and when i show these ps3 fanboys at my college what gears of war looks like they say its just a trailer and not actualy gameplay so i think when games like gears of war do come out they will be shocked twice now and might change their mind on what console to buy.
K firstly, do you got proof that it wont look like this? You are entitled to your oppinion, but you are also perswading others that this will actually happen, so switch to xbox.
This thread is full of xboxfans. What in the world happened? Before it was like me, anibus, zelda truthman and w.e his name is. Now all you fanboys are poping up destroying this.
This, is a cutscene. (I think) Not realtime, you are not actually doing this. Am I wrong. Im pretty sure that guy is gonna talk.
We know all cutscenes are prerendered.
THIS IS NOT GAMEPLAY.
prerendered, obviosly its a cut scene.
Cutscene, you ar'nt playing in this, you are just watching, just like the others above.
In killzone, the demo was actually somone playing the game.
So unless you acn show me an image similar to this
in gears of war,(what looks like them 2 pics above) ill take your word and say its realtime.
But for now, i wont, because those look like cutscenes.
All cutscenes are prerendered.
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rabbity
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10. February 2006 @ 11:11 |
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no i did not show these images i showed them the in game footage of gears of war on my sig. and if i was an xbox 360 fanboy then i would not be considering buying a ps3.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 11:16 |
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dude, i said all the new people who just posted. You are fany.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 11:19 |
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Mind showing me those pics
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rabbity
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10. February 2006 @ 11:22 |
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firstly who is fanny and also they are not images i showed them the video on my sig and if you watch that watch it with sound b/c it explains what needs to be done to the game and other stuff.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 11:24 |
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arnt you fannyninja?
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rabbity
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10. February 2006 @ 11:30 |
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ok now i know your just making fun of my online name, lol. it was fazyninja, not fannyninja.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 11:32 |
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oh sorry. lol
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zelda64
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10. February 2006 @ 13:01 |
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WRONG KOOKOO. I have evidence that the Picture you show of Gears of War is Real time. It was a video you was ment to download ages ago but didnt.
EVERYONE, the Picture of Gears of War is REAL TIME.
KILLZONE WAS NOT SOMEONE PLAYING THE GAME
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 13:10 |
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The pictures i showed arnt real time.
I've downloaded that video, and already said it doesnt work. I play it on winamp and it jus is like a slide show.
And the fact that its a video, means it can be prerendered.
Killzone wasnt being played by somone at e3, it's gameplay was showed. Thats what i ment.
Everycutscene is prerendered. I will try the video on windows mdedial player , and see if its a cutscene,(hopefully it will work) However if it is a cutscene zelda, you will loose my respect.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 14:27 |
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http://www.xbox360news.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_1305.aspx
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EVERYONE, the Picture of Gears of War is REAL TIME.
KILLZONE WAS NOT SOMEONE PLAYING THE GAME
You capitalization showed your imaturaty.
Gears of War was'nt gameplay *OR* somone playing it!
Oh my zelda, unless i got the wrong video, BUT THIS IS DEFFENETLY NOT REAL TIME. THIS IS A CUTSCENE.
This is a cutscene, it was'nt gameplay. Not gamplay. Not gameplay. Do you actually have proof that this is real time?! Do you think that the creators of this game are saints or somthing? Do you not think that they have the ability to lie? You critisize the developers of killzone to be lieing about kz2, but now that I've seen this video, i see that you are just critisizing them. I do'nt seee gameplay in this. This can be prerendered, you say it is'nt, how on earth do you know this?
Am I watching the wrong video or somthing? Am i? its the 102mb video (60fps gears of war)
This game has'nt been released!! How can you say that this game is 100% realtime? Do you remember the getaway for ps2? Remember what they said? But it was'nt realtime. It was a hoax. Im not saying that the game wont look like this. But it's most likely prerendered for 2 reasons
1)cutscene
2)Lookie, its a video!!
I dare you to say that the video i viewed is realtime.
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10. February 2006 @ 14:32 |
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kookoo, not all cutscenes zre prerendered. you ever play unreal tournament? the opener was
not preren. you play ut2004? the opener to single player was not preren. even the normal
opener issnt. it depends on what type of game your playing. have you seen the real-time
demos of ut2007? some of the best ive seen to date.
to clarify for some people, real-time means its being produced from scratch coding. even if
you are not controlling doesnt make something preren. durrrrr. and those pics of there of
gears are prerendered.
Gears of War looks more plastic looking, and the movements are no better than current
games in my opinion.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 14:45 |
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dude, almost all cutscenes are prerendered.
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10. February 2006 @ 14:55 |
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not within the unreal engines! just trying to say not all. on consoles most are so the user can see the utmost athetics. even a few in ff arnt preren, but only a few and they dont look nice.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 15:00 |
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dude, al the good looking scenes on ff (which look like what ps3 is suppost to look like) are prerendered.
Games shouldnt look better than then what the best of what geforece 7800x512 can produce. Both mgs and G.O.W are, but the 7800512 is just a bit weaker than the gen consols. This is why these are all cutscenes and are prerendered.
What i find wierd is that, zelda calls sony liers. But when kz2 was showed, it was'nt sony talking, wasnt Nvdea talking? You know nvdea was talking about the realtime. And nvdea arnt know as liers. So why do you say that kz2 is prerendered because sony is liers, because you know, sony did'nt say or do anything with kz2, they just let it be presented.
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rabbity
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10. February 2006 @ 15:11 |
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well i can not be bothered to download a 148 mb vid onto my pc, but even if that one is prerendered, then take a look at the one on my sig. its realtime and what you see is a bad version with everything to come. the devs only had the xbox 360 for two weeks before showing this at the tokyo game show, the game is running at only half the fram rate, and the screen is not normally this dark. anyways whay i am trying to say kookoo is that the gameplay is very, very close to the pic, condidering that its only half way finished.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 15:31 |
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kookoo is that the gameplay is very, very close to the pic, condidering that its only half way finished.
U got no way of knowing this, ill look at your sig, but that other video i saw was'nt gameplay nor realtime.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 16:33 |
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Oh, and zelda, you said that ps2 coppied xbox by the hardrive. But apperently psx had one.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/10/report-ps3-to-have-a-hard-driv...
"And Hall seems to know his Sony history, pointing out elsewhere in the article that the failed PSX did have a hard drive).".
What else did i find.
http://www.ps3portal.com/general/article/276.html
States the specs for oblivion (pc[same game for 360 as in they dont make two different games])
you will need
4.6gb of free space, so oblivion just missed the 2disk.
1gb ram rec.
3ghz rec.(its not a multy threaded game)
ATI X800 series, Nvidia GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card
(if this can run oblivion, this is nothing for the 360.)
-ATI X1800 series
ATI X1300 series
ATI X850 series
ATI x800 series
ATI x700 series
ATI x600 series
ATI Radeon 9800 series
ATI Radeon 9700 series
ATI Radeon 9600 series
ATI Radeon 9500 series
ATI Radeon 9000 series
NVIDIA Geforce 7800 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
NVIDIA GeForce FX series
If these can run it, this is nothing for the 360.
Yuo see, now, since it is 4.6gb, 360 games will be over one disk for sure when games will need 100% of 360. (as in all threads, all processor, all video card capability.
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zelda64
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10. February 2006 @ 16:45 |
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No. Gears of War is real time. The reason I use caps is the empahsise it. I saw the video and the developer play the game. You will only see me as correct when the game is out.
But please try and believe Gears of War is real time. It pains me to think not as I have seen it being played.
Metal Gear was said to be in real time. Killzone has been actualy mentioned that it was not Real time but a graphical representation of what the PS3 could be capable of come towards the end of its life.
Whats frustrating is that I have actualy witnessed Gears of War being played and of course non of you guys will believe me untill its there in your face. To you lot I just sound like some crazed person who says they saw a UFO.
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10. February 2006 @ 17:09 |
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PS3 and 360 graphics are going to be neck and neck for a good portion of their lives...
Just saying.
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chimpanel
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10. February 2006 @ 18:12 |
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I can confirm what zelda says, if you saw the video you would see GOW was in game graphics, as the developers say also. Secondly one minute your saying killzone IS pre-rendered and you give us a tech reason why on a different thread and the next minute your saying its real time? I think its pretty safe to say it wasn't real time, i think they even said it wasn't and it doesn't look like someone is playing it, it looks scripted, pretty obvious really. Plus ime sure theres an image size restriction dude.
With metal gear also on ps3 I remember seeing a video where the guy pans around the image and changes the colour hue/ shadows etc thus proving it real time. I don't know where i got it from the net but do a google search you'll probably come up with something. But gears of war is in game, no question.
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 18:21 |
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Metal Gear was said to be in real time. Killzone has been actualy mentioned that it was not Real time but a graphical representation of what the PS3 could be capable of come towards the end of its life.
No, it was a fmv because a 2.2ghz cpu cant handle killzone. So they made a film of it.
Now zelda, you told me to download that video, and i did and watched it. You never told me the video of somone playing it and i wanna see it. I'm not taking your word yett.
You say kz2 is not realtime, but you got no proof. I've explained why it is prerendered. They showed what the ps3 is capable of. SONY didnt say this. NVIDEA did. Now you can't say NVIDEA are liers right?
Im not saying that mgs kz2 and GOW wont look like this, but i have it hard to believe any will.
Im just installing quick time, and imma see fanzy's sig thing
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KoOkOo67
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10. February 2006 @ 18:46 |
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well now that i've seen it, im just wondering how the ps3 games are going to be like. Feb 22-w.e they are having this japan show to show ps3 off, so im curios to how these will compair to eachother. Now that i see this, im pretrty sure kz2 will look like that since GOW and KZ2 dont look that different to eachother. Just like ps3 and 360. But however im pretty sure mgs will creem kz2.
now were they playing this demo on the 360? or another Computer?
A good thing that 360 has is that its easy to develope for.(compairing to ps3) so its easier to make games look better. But after both consols are easy to develop for, i think both will produce the same graphics. (with their own advantages) ps3 shine, xbox360 iuno geomatric shapes? ps3 open gl\Transparent AA, 360 Addaptive AA and w.e
march 1st is almost here, same with feb 22, if sony lied, its 360 for me.
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10. February 2006 @ 20:59 |
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you have proof sony promised to show stuff on these dates?
and the pic on the top of your pictures post is prerendered.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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zelda64
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10. February 2006 @ 21:32 |
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Where is your proof that the Gears of War picture is pre-rendered anubis? You see I have solid proof the picture is not but where is your proof the picture is pre-rendered?
Where is your proof that Killzone 2 is not pre-rendered? I find Gears of War more believable than Killzone it just makes common sense.
So give me solid proof Killzone 2 is not pre-rendered and that will seriously sway my desision to buy a PS3 over the 360 and dont forget to give me the solid proof that the picture is pre-rendered please anubis bearing in mind I have solid proof that its rendered in real time.
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