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7. November 2008 @ 11:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by LOCOENG:
All Optiarcs are not created equal...the 72XX series GM recommended are highly sought drives. Any series drives before that can be questionable.

LOCOENG... YOU are the man. I consider myself to be open minded. I will give them another shot. Besides, it is only 30$ avg. RIGHT? Hmmm... Newegg has them. I forgot that NEC paired up with sony on them. Ive had an NEC before too. Cra*&^&% out on me after 100burns. Though I was a heavy, heavy smoker around it. My computer will never see another cigarette. Really weird rip errors too. I didnt know that a dvd-rom/writers could screw up video audio sync till that burner. Must've given it cancer. LOL :0

I have seen that before, and it's usually caused by an inadequate CPU speed, or not enough memory. The video and the sound seems to jump around, stopping and starting with the video all over the place. I just ran into that the other day with an old Celeron 750MHz CPU. The AMD K6 seemed to work much better with much slower CPUs. The amount of memory can also cause that problem as well as the memory speed. Yet I had an old 450MHz Dell Optiplex P-II that I installed an Emprex DVD Burner in, and it worked fine!

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7. November 2008 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The NEC with the mentioned CANCER problem, was in a 1.4ghz athlon system. 512MB kingston ram. I ripped/burned well over 100dvds with it. after about 60 - 75 rips/burns it started not liking Transparent dvds/cds. I was VERY irritated when I would see those discs. Its rather ignorant when you think about it. The tecnology utilizes an eye, a beam of light, and they make discs that you can SEE THROUGH!!! Stupid, stupid, stupid. Though I havnt ever had a problem with my Litey, or my DRU drives. That computer is still going strong too. I swear its a freak of technology. I fire it up from time to time. I would think sync issues with discs would be COMPLETELY freakish. After all... It is simply a file/s copy, RIGHT?
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7. November 2008 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@rob

nice score that 57! LOL. I tripled burned with Nero Burning Rom on two internal BQs and one external usb LG with out issues on old pc with 528MB memory and P4 2.26processor. Smokin', literally!

Creaky taught me how to multiple burn years ago. A lesson well learned. One reason I refuse to be w/o Nero's suites. I'm on 8 now up from 6.6.0.18. Getting same good results on SATA burners now.


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7. November 2008 @ 15:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Creaky taught me how to multiple burn years ago"
You mean... Simultaneous burning? Ive tried that. Buffer under runs were not too high. Wasnt worried about it since most/all new burners support buffer underrun protection. Whats your technique???
I used two instances of nero burning rom as well as Decrypter. Separate harddrives too. So im confused why there would be underrunning when they're basically file transfers, and processors really dont come in there. Atleast my processor never spikes above 1-2%
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7. November 2008 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's a (genuine) feature of Nero's suite that's worth it's weight in gold. I don't bother trying separate instances of a burn program when Nero can do it. I happily run multiple ripping programs alongside each other, but when it comes to a burning program that has to trawl data off a hard drive (even if it does have buffer-underrun protection) i'd personally rather a burning program can cater for it over running multiple processes..



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7. November 2008 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
It's a (genuine) feature of Nero's suite that's worth it's weight in gold. I don't bother trying separate instances of a burn program when Nero can do it. I happily run multiple ripping programs alongside each other, but when it comes to a burning program that has to trawl data off a hard drive (even if it does have buffer-underrun protection) i'd personally rather a burning program can cater for it over running multiple processes..
Nero, Huh? Heck yah. Thanks for the post. MUCH obliged. I'll consider that a birthday present from you. You have a VERY good day. TGIF
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7. November 2008 @ 16:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL can't tell if you're joking or not :)
..for what it's worth i'm not knocking your way of burning, i was just stating my own preference.. the good thing about pc's is there's always a few ways of doing things.



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7. November 2008 @ 16:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Completely serious. I prefer atleast a little criticism. KNOCK AWAY. lol. Nah, I havnt tried several instances burning since I saw the buffer underruns. It confused me since they were separate harddrives but... I guess when burning, the burner simply needs undivided attention. I wont ask EXACTLY how nero does it. I'll do some homework. I'll remember better that way. THANKS
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7. November 2008 @ 17:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nothing sweeter than 3 burners spun up burning the same ISO in Nero Burning Rom at the same time. NOT burning on the fly which is easy.

Creaky

What is the record for burning the same ISO in NeroBRom at the same time?

Burnaway omegaman7

To multi burn an ISO file from HDD with 2 burners simultaneously:

1. Open Nero Ultra Suite 6.6.0.18 0r 8XXX
2. Open Nero Burning Rom (NBR)
3. X out the window that opens in NBR
4. Click on top left on FOLDER
5. Find where your ISO is located and highlight it and click open
6. Burn Compilation window opens:check multiple recorders. Then click burn
7. In the Choose recorder(s) window that opens, highlight the 2 burners you want to use (mine shows all three and will do them all). Click OK
8. Put media in drives as they will open automatically. They stay closed if they are already loaded.
9. Click on the burn Icon and both drives spin up. Both stopped about same time with nice new DVDs booktyped to DVD-ROMs. I used 8X as the burn speed. NBR has no trouble burning 3 16X DVDs


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7. November 2008 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm a video_ts folder man as opposed to ISO's but it's all apples and oranges eh :P
I burn 2 simultaneous as much or even more often than single imgburn burns, sometimes 3 at once but not too often..



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7. November 2008 @ 17:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do their newest versions (NERO) support simultaneous burning?
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7. November 2008 @ 17:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Honestly couldn't tell you, i'm on the proverbial 6.6.0.18..



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7. November 2008 @ 20:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah Nero Burn Rom 8.3.2.1 in Nero 8 Suite certainly does the multi burns. This is what I'm using.


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8. November 2008 @ 00:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks alot alot! Is there no way to burn from separate harddrives? What I mean is burn two, three, etc. different iso's. I have 4 burners. Though I only use two. I would like to burn NOT MULTIPLE COPIES but, two separte data iso's simultaneously. Is that not possible without buffer underrun?
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8. November 2008 @ 01:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you have ImgBurn (free) then open two windows and try to start to burns each with a different ISO. Try nero Burn Rom also in 2 different windows.


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8. November 2008 @ 05:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ive tried several instances of burning rom and decrypter. Havnt tried imgburn yet. But.. I would think it no different. But who knows. Ive noticed for the first 20-30sec of a burn, the drive wants Exclusive undivided access. It wont open even the most basic of programs when I first initiate the burn. DOESN'T matter which Harddrive im burning from. I wonder if 2GB of 6400 ram simply isnt enough for that kind of task.
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8. November 2008 @ 06:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No idea, have never been brave enough to try it.
At the end of the day i have 15 hard drives on this pc now, so no hurry to burn anything, only problem i have is if i get lazy then there's too much to burn and it's like an uphill battle. Needless to say i only got lazy once :p



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8. November 2008 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@omegaman7,

You need Cincyrob or maybe Greensman to chime in. I know Cincyrob has done 4 different isos at the same time. I know he used several different burning programs but how he overcame the timing issues which you mentioned, i.e., exclusive access to the drives, I don't know.


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8. November 2008 @ 08:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll probably get one of these after the first of the year ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136155




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8. November 2008 @ 09:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@LOCO

Too many digits left of the decimal. What do the blank BR discs cost now? All too rich for my blood. I guess bad burns would go the the good china set for coasters-ya know the ones for high tea.


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8. November 2008 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ive read VERY good things about LG. Thats a decent price. I would touch blu-ray before vista. As long as its verbatim anyway. I imagine TY is only allowing the industry their BD's. Its only a matter of time. :) 15 HARDDRIVES! Creaky... I am Jealousy incarnate. I gather your running 64bit? That could be a thing too. Ive heard that 64bit operating runs 32bit seamlessly. And ive got 2.5 TB myself. Windows wont let me simultaneously run more than 2TB. Im aware of the 32bit limitation. As well as RAM. My next build is gonna be a TOTAL FREAK! I LOVE MY 1TB harddrive. Some say its nearly as fast as the VELOCIRAPTOR! Does your case hold that many HD'S? Mine only holds 6. But thats one on top of another. I WONT DO THAT.
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8. November 2008 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by LOCOENG:
I'll probably get one of these after the first of the year ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...7136155

LOCOENG,
Question! Why won't it play commercial BlueRay DVDs?

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8. November 2008 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You probably need a firmware upgrade. But thats a loaded question. I read that firmware upgrades are gonna be a necessity for BD drives. DONT own one myself, Just a guess.
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8. November 2008 @ 14:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@omegaman7 - i have no interest in 64-bit at home (i do use 64-bit at work, in the Unix world 64-bit has been the standard for longer than i can remember).
I have 6 500GB SATA HDD's internal to an Antec 900, 3 ODD's (1 IDE and the others are SATA), the other HDD's are all in USB2.0 enclosures, 7 are 500GB and 2 smaller ones. Oh and 6 more ODD's in USB2.0 enclosures too. That's just the main PC :p



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8. November 2008 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SO...You plug um in as you need um. Ahhh...I suppose that works. Myself, Sometimes I need to rip in a MAD MAD hurry. Multi drives come in handy. I can rip 5 dvds simultaneously and my processor appears to be doing darn near nothing when there's no compression. I figured it was because file transfers are nothing to it. Ive ripped 10dvds in under a half hour. More hardware and im sure I could top that though. Plus 3 of my opti's are getting old!
 
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