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29. November 2011 @ 00:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Or lose their job's as all employers pay people to monitor social networking.

We pay way too much for projects that are never complete i.e., Vista should be 7 and they still didn't get everything under the hood for 7. Yet we continue to pay big dollars for unfinished, less than stable products. This is the one area that Apple is much better at as their OS is very cheap to buy, but then they really make up for it by screwing you blind for their hardware.

Both Steve jobs and Bill Gates are pound scum, you can throw Donald Trump in there with them too.

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Stevo,

Amen to that one! Pond Scum at the very least, but all 3 are control freaks, as well.

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Fire Fox is no where near as good as it used to be, its riddled with security holes.

Just for shits in gigs, i have a virus catcher a computer that i use with the intention of getting viruses on. i was surprised that chrome held up better than firefox with more direct methods however both failed to prevent the viruses from executing within the browser itself.

if we could only Sandbox/virtual machine a browser that would eliminate most if not potential threats too a host system. it wouldn't be impossible as all new machines have VM support at the hardware level.

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Sandboxing is the way to go I had a setup at one time but have gotten away from that, I need to return to VM'ing my browsers. Good point DXR88!

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I have some sad news to report. A member of AD and my good friend has died. Rick5446 AKA Rick Blackman. The details are shaky, but it appears that Rick was killed by Robbers who disabled him, stole a lot of stuff and left him to die by setting the house on fire. He passed away September 23, 2011. He died on the way to the hospital. 5 People have been arrested and charged with First Degree Murder.

I know that he could be an abrasive person at times, but ho was a good person, but very "Old School!" Very few here at AD knew that Rick was a dying man. We both used to joke about us having a "Race to the Grave!" You won that one, Old Friend. Just remember to save me that seat by the fire, as I'll be along one of these days, in the not too distant future. I'm just grateful that I found this out before it was my time to go, I already miss my Friend, but I know we will meet again!

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1. December 2011 @ 05:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
I have some sad news to report. A member of AD and my good friend has died. Rick5446 AKA Rick Blackman. The details are shaky, but it appears that Rick was killed by Robbers who disabled him, stole a lot of stuff and left him to die by setting the house on fire. He passed away September 23, 2011. He died on the way to the hospital. 5 People have been arrested and charged with First Degree Murder.

I know that he could be an abrasive person at times, but ho was a good person, but very "Old School!" Very few here at AD knew that Rick was a dying man. We both used to joke about us having a "Race to the Grave!" You won that one, Old Friend. Just remember to save me that seat by the fire, as I'll be along one of these days, in the not too distant future. I'm just grateful that I found this out before it was my time to go, I already miss my Friend, but I know we will meet again!

Russ
People just got no respect for anyone anymore, break into your home fatally wound you and cant even grow the balls to do the right thing and finish the job. The worst part is those murdering bastards will get 3 square meals a day until there finally put under 50 years down the road.


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Here, Here, Jeff...

Sorry for the lose Russ what a shame...

Condolences,
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My condolence's to you and his family Russ.


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3. December 2011 @ 19:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On a more positive note, this has to be the most expensive keyboard I've ever seen! Sounds really interesting though :) The website has lots of cool stuff too!
Freak of a Keyboard!



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The maximus has been around for ages, and was announced years ago. Problem is, to fit the display the keys are larger than usual and they're difficult to type with. A better compromise is a Logitech G19 really.
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That logitech looks like an ample keyboard. Unfortunately it isn't ergonomic :S



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
That logitech looks like an ample keyboard. Unfortunately it isn't ergonomic :S

I tried an ergonomic keyboard once. I think it's in a box on my closet shelf. I could never get the hang of those silly keyboards, and they are so damn big! LOL!!

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Has anybody noticed that we are paying fairly steep prices for Win 7, yet it's not anywhere near a complete operating system! The XP Mode is a joke, it's so slow. Just for the heck of it, I did an encode in XP Mode, and it took more than twice as much time as it does in Win 7. It's full of glitches, with no support for simple things like no support for GIFs in the Windows Photo Viewer. The Screen saver doesn't work, nor will it at least shut down the monitor after you set the time period. I hear people like Sam, talking about BSODs, a couple of times a day. Personally I have only had one, and that was when I tried to reinstall Win 7 without wiping the drive, so at least it has been stable.

Micro$oft has a lot of nerve charging such high prices, knowing there are so many bugs in the OS. I guess that makes us unpaid Beta Testers! LOL!!

Russ

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me gonna stick with windows XP then for my new build! windows8 around the corner?




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I'll stick with 7. Sleep mode works perfectly, Screensavers work. XP mode? Never found a need for it.

I think I'll update my Bios though. I'm having problems getting my 965 to drop it's voltage/frequency dynamically. I do have one of the earlier bios releases.



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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
me gonna stick with windows XP then for my new build! windows8 around the corner?

Windows 8 is going to be another Cluster F job, given it's short development time, even worse than Win 7. Win 7 almost get's to be comical, as you never know what will stop working next. Still, without all the Bling, 7 isn't that difficult. My windows 7 desktop pretty much looks just like it's XP-Pro counterpart. Much easier to use than it was with Win 7 Home Basic, and far more stable!

Best Regards,
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Has anybody noticed that we are paying fairly steep prices for Win 7, yet it's not anywhere near a complete operating system! The XP Mode is a joke, it's so slow. Just for the heck of it, I did an encode in XP Mode, and it took more than twice as much time as it does in Win 7. It's full of glitches, with no support for simple things like no support for GIFs in the Windows Photo Viewer. The Screen saver doesn't work, nor will it at least shut down the monitor after you set the time period. I hear people like Sam, talking about BSODs, a couple of times a day. Personally I have only had one, and that was when I tried to reinstall Win 7 without wiping the drive, so at least it has been stable.

Micro$oft has a lot of nerve charging such high prices, knowing there are so many bugs in the OS. I guess that makes us unpaid Beta Testers! LOL!!

Russ
Russ, if you run XP with VMware and try to encode in the virtual environment it will run slow too, that is just the nature of the beast. That was true years ago with MAC's and Amiga's with their sidecar OS's. Anytime you have to translate from one OS to another utilizing the same hardware you are going to take a big hit. Only when you have an embedded OS on a addon card will you perform better but still will not be as fast as the native OS.

I don't like MS but I think you are off base here.

The screen saver works on 7 real nice but the hard drive has to be setup proper in the power saver mode you are operating in. This is where MS has screwed up, you have two modes of operation but you also have to go into the Advanced Power settings to properly setup your power scheme. Very confusing it is but the themes and screen saver are excellent I think and work as I would expect them too.

Sorry,
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Has anybody noticed that we are paying fairly steep prices for Win 7, yet it's not anywhere near a complete operating system! The XP Mode is a joke, it's so slow. Just for the heck of it, I did an encode in XP Mode, and it took more than twice as much time as it does in Win 7. It's full of glitches, with no support for simple things like no support for GIFs in the Windows Photo Viewer. The Screen saver doesn't work, nor will it at least shut down the monitor after you set the time period. I hear people like Sam, talking about BSODs, a couple of times a day. Personally I have only had one, and that was when I tried to reinstall Win 7 without wiping the drive, so at least it has been stable.

Micro$oft has a lot of nerve charging such high prices, knowing there are so many bugs in the OS. I guess that makes us unpaid Beta Testers! LOL!!

Russ
XP Mode is slow because it's virtualised - that's just how virtualisation works, and no third party alternative will fix that issue.

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I hear people like Sam, talking about BSODs, a couple of times a day.

When? I haven't had any BSODs in Win7 for quite some time. Win7 is no more prone to them than XP is.



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my W7 machine only has 1 power setting, Maximum POWAA!!!

hell i already burn holes in the ozone layer With my Ozonator(1976 El Camino) why go all hippie tree huger with my electronics.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Has anybody noticed that we are paying fairly steep prices for Win 7, yet it's not anywhere near a complete operating system! The XP Mode is a joke, it's so slow. Just for the heck of it, I did an encode in XP Mode, and it took more than twice as much time as it does in Win 7. It's full of glitches, with no support for simple things like no support for GIFs in the Windows Photo Viewer. The Screen saver doesn't work, nor will it at least shut down the monitor after you set the time period. I hear people like Sam, talking about BSODs, a couple of times a day. Personally I have only had one, and that was when I tried to reinstall Win 7 without wiping the drive, so at least it has been stable.

Micro$oft has a lot of nerve charging such high prices, knowing there are so many bugs in the OS. I guess that makes us unpaid Beta Testers! LOL!!

Russ
Russ, if you run XP with VMware and try to encode in the virtual environment it will run slow too, that is just the nature of the beast. That was true years ago with MAC's and Amiga's with their sidecar OS's. Anytime you have to translate from one OS to another utilizing the same hardware you are going to take a big hit. Only when you have an embedded OS on a addon card will you perform better but still will not be as fast as the native OS.

I don't like MS but I think you are off base here.

The screen saver works on 7 real nice but the hard drive has to be setup proper in the power saver mode you are operating in. This is where MS has screwed up, you have two modes of operation but you also have to go into the Advanced Power settings to properly setup your power scheme. Very confusing it is but the themes and screen saver are excellent I think and work as I would expect them too.

Sorry,
Stevo
NP! So it's a stand alone running in a virtual computer environment? OK, I stand corrected!

I know very little about this. All my computing knowledge is in Multi-CPU high speed installations, where it's the faster the better. Full body scans take a huge amount of computing power.

Sorry for the goof,
Russ

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5. December 2011 @ 06:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:

When? I haven't had any BSODs in Win7 for quite some time. Win7 is no more prone to them than XP is.
Not true Win7 is more prone to BSOD's than XP, I've had plenty due to driver issues or the System Reserve partition getting corrupted. Then you go though possibly hours of 7 trying to fix the problem only to find it can't.

Sorry but XP is more stable!

Stevo

Russ,

You can provide more memory and/or cores for the virtual environment to use which will increase your performance in the VM, but you will always be slower unfortunately.

Best Regards,
Stevo :)

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by sammorris:

When? I haven't had any BSODs in Win7 for quite some time. Win7 is no more prone to them than XP is.
Not true Win7 is more prone to BSOD's than XP, I've had plenty due to driver issues or the System Reserve partition getting corrupted. Then you go though possibly hours of 7 trying to fix the problem only to find it can't.

Sorry but XP is more stable!

Stevo

Russ,

You can provide more memory and/or cores for the virtual environment to use which will increase your performance in the VM, but you will always be slower unfortunately.

Best Regards,
Stevo :)
bad luck maybe? i haven't had a BSOD in about 2 years of operation, and the only time i have BSODed was when i was setting up my OC.

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No not bad luck, I'm not the only person and I know plenty of others plus you can find them on the net too that are complaining of similar issues. On my ten+ machines just at home not all have problems but some do and it is numerous reasons but the fact is that Windows 7 structure corrupts much easier than XP and doesn't recover as easily or as often.

I like 7 but it is not as stable as XP and that is based on my numerous PC's used and the numerous people I help too plus all the people I find online with again similar problems.

Just because you have had good luck certainly doesn't mean problems don't exist. Some of my PC's have never had a problem, others more than often.
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DXR88,

I would have agreed to a lot of BSODs with the Windows 7 Home Basic I originally had installed, but so far, Win 7 Professional is much more stable than XP ever was, and I've been using XP-Pro for over 8 years. The only BSOD I have seen with Win 7 was when I tried to re-install Win 7 Pro, without wiping the drive first. 99% of my x86 programs work fine in Win 7, and I've had no driver issues at all. I liked 64 Bit XP-Pro, but drivers were always the issue. I'm just hoping that PeerGuardian2 comes out with a Win 7 64 bit version.

BTW I've found a very good viewer that plays .gif files. In fact it plays many file types that Windows Photo Viewer doesn't recognize. It's a lot like Irfanview, but much easier to use.

http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm

Best Regards,
Russ

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Russ,

On one of my PC's I have to perform a ChkDsk /f on the C: drive periodicly as $I030 files in the System Volume Information (hidden folder) constantly corrupts itself. The probable cause is Adobe Acrobat but the file corruption isn't always to their file caching. Funny things start happening like my connection to the internet closes for that PC and other programs won't run that run normally. After Adobe does one of their upgrades it helps if I manually open up Acrobat, if I don't then I start having issues shortly afterwards. That is only one problem in an array of issues.

Nice pick Russ on that Viewer I like the controls it has and will play with that great snag!!!

The Best,
Stevo... :)
 
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