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jdobbs
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12. September 2005 @ 04:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I guess I don't get the connection to this thread? If you are doing encoding of an AVI it really has nothing to do with DVD-RB...
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12. September 2005 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@tehSlippy
In case you missed it, AVI has to be converted to DVD before being able to use RB.

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12. September 2005 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
tehSlippy

Good question, wrong forum the link below will take you to where you need to go. This forum is about DVD Rebuilder. CCE is just one of the tools it uses to encode or transcode with and your question has nothing to do with RB.




http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/40

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13. September 2005 @ 05:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This was a bit odd on behalf of DVD-RB as it seems over the weekend I made a backup of True Lies R1 NTSC. The video and playback came back fine and without a problem but what I noticed was odd was how DVD-RB identified the video as 4:3 material. The output was still in 16x9 but just thought that is something you'd be interested in looking up Jdobbs.
jdobbs
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13. September 2005 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you sure it's anamorphic? Sometimes they'll fool you.

But it may be possible. It's rare, but occasionally you will see that situation. The picture is coded as 4:3 in the stream -- but the aspect of the film is 16:9. On a DVD what matters is the setting in the IFO file -- which overrides the stream flags. The examples where I've seen that in the past were on titles authored with SpruceUp. It was a decent authoring system -- but didn't support 16:9. So people would just take a 16:9 source and encode it at 4:3 -- then manually modify the IFO after the job was done. The result would playback correctly.

DVD-RB reproduces original disc as close as possible to its original authoring.
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13. September 2005 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HKT3020

Quite often the extras are in 4:3 while the movie is 16:9. You may have been viewing the stats of the extras.

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14. September 2005 @ 03:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OH c'mon guys I encoded every DVD with the Disable "Interlaced" option checked !!! I live in PAL country! So now are all my DVD's bad quality or what? Has this option an influence on quality?
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14. September 2005 @ 04:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's apparently not uncommon for PAL discs to have Progressive content flagged as interlaced. Even though I live in NTSC-Land I've personally seen it when I helped ddlooping do some test encodes with a PAL copy of Return Of The King. Extras, on the other hand, are much more likely to actually be interlaced, particularly if they were created specifically for a TV (like making of titles or TV trailers).

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15. September 2005 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm having problems getting my outputs to be sized correctly. I had it working before I reformatted but now it just doesn't want to work.

Basically, the last two 7-8GB DVDs I've tried to CCE ended up at 2.8-3.6GB, far too small.

Here's my rebuilder.ini. I also have the rebuilder.inf from the one DVD I tried to process, but I didn't post it because it is quite lengthy.

[Options]
BackColor=14737632
RemoveDTS=1
idct7Opt=1
OneClick=1
CCE=1
HalfExtras=1
Completed=3
CCETargetSectors=2260007
EncoderMinimized=1
ReduceOpt=3
NoWarn=1
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\DVD Tools\CCE_227\cctsp.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD Tools\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll
Source=H:\USENET INCOMING\
Working=H:\RIPPING\WORKING FOLDER\
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=8
OPV=0

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15. September 2005 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know that you've probably heard this enough but review your setup again. Leave everthing at the default settings and then try again.

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jdobbs
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15. September 2005 @ 18:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd recommend you unclick the "Steal Space from Extras" option. It is very possible that you are reaching the maximum size CCE will allow for the movie and the rest is being thrown away...
HKT3020
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15. September 2005 @ 19:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Apologies for that Jdobbs, it turns out the DVD is in LB format. Not anamorphic WS. A real a total letdown as I just found after playing it through my HD. -_-
jdobbs
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16. September 2005 @ 02:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hate it when that happens... you could try the 4:3 to 16:9 conversion option in DVD-RB, I pretty much always use if for 4:3 letterboxed movies.
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16. September 2005 @ 10:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quick quesiton for the Pro edition users...

When I receive an update, can I install over the older version or should I delete it and intall fresh?

I just got the email about RC6
jdobbs
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16. September 2005 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can install over the old one. If you don't want any of your settings to change, answer "No" to the question as to whether to overwrite your REBUILDER.INI.
blueside
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16. September 2005 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting, I just tried an older version of DVD-RB and CCE, and only got 2.8GB output again. I had disabled the steal space from extras feature.

Hmm...maybe I need to put the CCETargetsectors in my rebuilder.ini?
jdobbs
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16. September 2005 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you are missing by that much something else is wrong. What do you have set for TargetSectors now?

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blueside
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17. September 2005 @ 06:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I played around with the TargetSectors until the prepare function showed that I'd have something close to 4.3GB for video files.

So I set it at 2550000, but then the output was 2.5GB. So it appears that the TargetSectors isn't doubled like it should be, but comes out almost exactly at what you set it to.

I'll try something like 4400000 tonight.


EDIT - spoke too soon as it was the whole output folder that was 2.5GB, the VIDEO_TS folder is only 1.7GB.

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jdobbs
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17. September 2005 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's the wrong thing to do. Something else is wrong if you are getting sizing that far off.... When properly configured DVD Rebuilder will be consistently within 1% of the TargetSectors setting.
blueside
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17. September 2005 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What would you suggest I do instead? I installed a new version of DVD-RB, updated CCE and it says that space for video is 3.6GB on completion of the preparation phase.

Is that going to be the final output size as well?
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17. September 2005 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Blueside

Quite a while back I ran into the same problem and writing in TargetSector commands did nothing to help. The reload of the entire RB/CCE setup straightened the problem out.

Delete your entire setup, AviSynth, CCE, RB, the whole 9 yards using Add Remove in the Control Panel. Reboot and check to see if any files are left, delete them manually, if any are left; sometimes remnants get left behind. Clean your system; Adaware, Spybot, your AV software, whatever utilities you have, run them; a reg cleaner would be nice. Like anything else, adware and spyware can have an effect on the way your encoder apps work. Then in this order reload the software: v2.55 AviSynth and CCE first (order not important), then using the installer app, load the RB which will then set the path to the CCE. Clear any memory you have tied up. I normally run the disk cleanup utility in accessories. Reboot and give it another try. It doesn't take that long to cleanup and reload the app. You've already used much more time encoding where the movie files came out too small. After the new setup, there should be nothing wrong and the system will be at default settings.

Note: It wouldn't hurt to use fresh downloads of the software to be used from http://www.dvd-rb.com . Also, some of those "trials" for CCE floating around the net can cause problems, hopefully you're using a version from a licensed source.

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17. September 2005 @ 08:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
blueside

Damn I typed out virtually the same advice and was just getting ready to post it when brobear's response pops up. It's good advice take it, and make sure that you are not using a newer version of avisynth than 2.55.

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jdobbs
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17. September 2005 @ 10:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're reading into things a little too much... "Space for Video" is just what it says... there is more, though, you also have space for audio, subpictures, NAVPACKS, menus and IFO files.
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17. September 2005 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Which leads to the question of the day: What is the size of the output file for the DVD movie to be burned? Not the entire output but the VIDEO_TS or ISO (if one has the PRO) that will be burned.

'Brobear'





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18. September 2005 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay, I got RBPro and installed, it kind of went okay, just a few things I need to figure out. However, I used Shrink and ripped a movie uncompressed, and then opened RB. Proceeded to use QuEnc, because I was having trouble with the CCE settings. Went through the whole process about 2 hours and then went to burn and got a file that was too big. What did I do wrong, and how do I change this? The Navs file was 4.25, but the Video file came out 4.8


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