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27. November 2006 @ 22:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it states in SMS ad that you may get TYGO1s(which you won't get anymore) TYGO2s or TYGO3s when buying the value line. you have to buy the premium line to get the correct speed that you order
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Cincyrob, Creaky, Ireland--

I did not write the information posted earlier. I believe it comes from Jerry Hartke of Media Sciences, a physicist and expert in testing recording media who works as a consultant in the industry. He has his own web page that is very informative about test procedures. He is trained as a scientist, and his years as a trouble shooter and test expert involved with production and analysis have led him to draw conclusions similar to mine. That's why you mistook us, assuming the quote is from his web site.

As to the "Mr. Memorex" title, it is obvious that you still do not understand what I have been saying. You can either read the link below to read a clarification or call me "Mr. CMC," "Mr. MKK," "Mr. Taiyo Yuden," or whatever moniker comes to mind because I have defended each brand against illogical accusations in the past.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/424840#2579194
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been away for awhile, decided to drop by just for a sec. to see how everyone is doing...hope all is well with everyone~ :)

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Question for "docTY"
Why is ty's can't be found in walkin stores under thier own name?

Taiyo Yuden is an OEM manufacturer, meaning in the simplest terms i know how to explain, they sell to other larger companies that distribute/sell/repackage the TY product under their own name/label to be sold to the general public, us the consumers~ :)

companies such as Sony, TDK, Fuji, Plextor, Verbatim, etc. (all depending on their geographical market-share...ie. Verbatim + Plextor sell TY media under their OWN respective brand names in Europe, but not here in the States) all have at one time or even at present, sell Taiyo Yuden manufactured media under their own brand name to the public. those companies purchase the media from Taiyo Yuden directly, and then proceed to put their branding/logo/top surface of choice and then sell it to us, the consumers.

online markets differ from retail store markets in that Taiyo Yuden has chosen to sell their "genuine TYs" (as they're commonly referred to as on the forums) at online venues because they have contracts within the online retailers/distributors (namely Microboards), that is NOT meant for public retail sales~ :) many of the online retailers of media that you've purchased from BUY their TY media from Microboards, who is a large distributor for TY media. TY media passes through many hands/levels that most people don't know about before it reaches us~ :) all too often people just assume TY will sell directly to the public, this is NOT the case; there are quite a few channels one has to go though to get TY media, whether it be from a company you are familiar with in retail stores (Sony/Fuji- their MIJ spindles of course and knowing HOW to distinguish the diff. rated speeds/formats/tell tale signs just by looking at the cakebox and country of origin to ensure your getting TY media) :) as well as online retailers that sell authentic TY media (non-branded) compared to the "branded" kind you find in retail outlets.

hope i haven't confused you even more, but yeah...that's pretty much how TY markets their dvd/cd media~ :)

@all regarding joeryan

it seems many of you are overwhelmed by the technical details that joeryan offers us regarding the actual MANUFACTURING process and the testing done on optical media, which is why i feel he has been misunderstood here on AfterDawn on several occassions. i for one don't know even 1% of the TECNNICAL knowledge that joeryan has in the manufacturing process of optical media, nor would it interest me personally to really learn more, i could care less in all honesty; however, with that being said, i respect his wealth of knowledge in THAT DEPARTMENT of media, yes, i admit that going so in depth at times is not necessary, but he has always just stated his point about the QUALITY vs. COMPATIBILITY of dvd media and has been unfairly lumped into the "CMC-MAG" supporters category~ :)

i feel joeryan's insights/experience into the DETAILS of optical media manufacturing and the process of which they are made is 100% accurate and factual, whether that knowledge is helpful to the "avg. joe" that wants to get burning properly again can be argued. is joeryan WRONG? NO..absolutely not, he just has a different perspective on things and is mearly sharing his knowledge to those that are willing to listen. does his perspective go "hand-in-hand" with the general opinion/masses here? usually not and that's why he's gotten so much "crap" for his posts.

if someone wants to know about the technical specifications for dvd media, joeryan is the man to turn to for solid information; would he be the "best person for the job" to get somebody burning again given a Nero log? more than likely not, but that alone is not deserving of some of the comments i've seen hurled at him in the past.

anyways, given that this is MY thread, please NO MORE CONDESCENDING COMMENTS towards joeryan, we're all here to help one another, in our own "special" way; it's one thing to "go with the flow" of the community, it's something completely different to flame someone for offering his/her 2 cents to a particular thread. each situation is different, i personally admire a "different take" that comes along once in a long while to finding a solution to an issue at hand. :)

if i were to "correct" everyone/anyone that has stated something inaccurate about Taiyo Yuden here in the dvd media forum, it would take me MONTHS...seriously...sometimes we just need to be a little lenient on others mistakes and to just let it slide a bit~ we're all human :P

good day to you all

docTY

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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To DocTY
Thank you for answering my question
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@docTY.

man is it good to see you again. how have you been? all is good i hope. You sure do know how to make a Reapperance...lol. sure do miss those post of yours..

im getting ready to order 50 8x+r hub printable TY's. i went with the premium line instead of the valueline. i seen what everyone was saying when ordering the valueline you dont know which your gonna get. plus the premiumline was only 2 buck more.
at least i think they are the premiumline, from meritline.
i would try them from SMS but i dont want to get 100 of them right now.

i want to see how my lite-on does with the +r TYs. i have only use the -r's with it so far. as far as the scans go i am consistanly getting a 93 with the 16x-r's compared to the 95 with the 16x/8x +r verbs i have. i know im comareing verbs to TY's but im more looking at the +/- thing
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Here is a log from DVDInfoPRo that I used to check the speed of a "Value Line" TY that stated 8x- Not really sure of some of this? is this stating that the speed is 4x? They coded out as TYG03

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG03
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 09
2x Write Strategy field 1 15 A9 9A 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 07
4x Speed OPC power 11
4x Write Strategy field 1 0C 10 0B 06
4x Write Strategy field 2 95 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 08
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 16
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 96 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 B7 89 33 83 30 33
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers

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Quote:
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Judging by this, you should be able to burn @ higher speeds than 4x. Have you tried?

But, jugding by this...

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Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
...it would appear not.

Hmmm, I'd suggest you try to burn the disks @ a higher speed, eg 8x and see. :S


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I will try here really soon [burn at a highter speed] sense I am on vaction for 9 days-ooooooooooo do I need it, anyways for learning proposes it is saying it is a 4x disk right?

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Yeah, from what I can make of that, it is telling you that the writing strategy (supported by your burner - as DVDinfopro is relevant to your drive) is 4x. But, the media supports 4-16x burning but it's saying your drive can only burn it @ 4x. That's what I make of it. Someone may be able to tell you different if i'm wrong.

Also, even if your firmware is uptodate I think it's to do with the writing strategies your burner supports for that media. (You'd have to ask JoeRyan on that one, No jokes.)
Have you had TYG03 before that have been recognised as 16x media before? Or is this the first batch of them you've had?
I presume that not all TYG03 shows up as "Unknown Speed"; could someone confirm that? Lol :)




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This is the first time Ive used TYG03- I have only used TYG02 IN TY and Verbs then MIJ SONY, Maxell and Fuji- that is all that gets in my drive... my firmware is up to date, and the highest ive burned is 6x on 8x media, my drives are per my sig.

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6x is a good enough speed, i'm primarily 8x now, apart from MCC004 where i get crap results/failures so do 4x. my faves are the TYG02 followed by the Yuden000T03's



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Hmmm, tis strange, unless that is the case with all TYG03. I don't know, don't use -r media, I use YUDEN000T03 :-)

Have to get back to us, when you have tried burning @ a higher speed. Hopefully someone will intervene, with a lil more info here :P

/me shakes DocTY & everyone else, "Wake Up"! :-D


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@DocTY

Pretty classy post! Glad to see you back in your thread again. Hope everything is going well for you.


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@herrick,
I have been thinking about this, as to why your drive would consider 16X media 4X. You say the f/w is up-to-date, your write strategy on the drive is set to 16X, and you're sure the media is actually TY? Looked at the hub code and such to make sure of the authenticity of the media? I know it seems like I'm grasping here but your drive(s) BENQ DW-1655 should write at 12X with no problems. Mine does. What follows is the identification of 2 media from TY. Authentic I'm sure because of the ID code and hub code according to the Doc and his identification process.

"Premium Line" TY branded SONY

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S - [FW KC4B] - [ATAPI]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG03]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 22160 kBps (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 16620 kBps (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 22160 kBps (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 16620 kBps (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]


"Value line" TY

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S - [FW KC4B] - [ATAPI]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG03]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 22160 kBps (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 16620 kBps (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 22160 kBps (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 16620 kBps (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]


If I'm reading this right I should be able to write at 6, 8, 12, and 16X on the drive available LITEON SOHW-1693S. Sorry but the other computer has the BENQ's but they will write at 12X with good results. I, like most here, don't like to write higher than 8X most of the time. I have written a couple at 16X but the errors were a little high for me and about 25% of them had playback problems. I know this is me but I would reccomend against writing at higher than 12X.

These tests are from DVD Identifier, but I can download DVDInfoPro to see if it gives the same results if you like. DVDInfoPro is up-to-date right? Grasping again but there should be an answer here.

@DocTY,
Good to see you come by and impart some wisdom. Hope all is well in the Doc's house.

............c

edit: Another thing I just thought of was the 'write strategy' may be what the program is using to read the disc for the identification process. I downloaded DVDInfoPro and it gave the same results you indicated (with the manufacturer rated speed at 16X), but I know that my drive(s) will write at 12X with no problem. This is troublesome. Like Ripper said any other gurus want to tackle this one?

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Thanks PAL... I have made "The Ant Bully " @ 6x at the specs stated above [ by DVDInfoPro- the 8x is really 4x???] but anyways- I copied at a higher speed as sujusted... just have not finished superman returns yet- will get back w/ ya....w/ the TYG03- as for making sure the media is TY ....DVD Identifer states Taiyo Yuden TYG03 and DVDINIfoPro states TYG03 and the invoive states TY 8x and SMS states TY 8x... WELL THERE YE GO

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while we are talking about burn speeds....i have noticed the last few times i have used my 8x+r TY's wheni use them with clonedvd2 where you choose your burn speed it not only shows the choice of 8x but also 12x... does that mean i can over burn these? when i use my 8x+r verbs it only shows the highest choice of 8x..... has anyone else noticed this or am i not paying that close enough attention to it
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hey has anyone thought if ty would make better printable surface on the dvds? well the problem has always been like this first they would sell matte type of serface on printable disc now its inproved photo glossy but its not really photo glossy like as they look ok to "low resolution" and i was wondering if theirs any media that can almost look identical to the original dvd?


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i havent tried any yet but i would think the shiney silver inkjet printables would look more like the original. the hub printable 8x+r verbs i have now have produced some darn near look alikes... other than me not haveing them aligned just right is the only differance...
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doc TY--
Thank you. You deserve your title.

As to write speeds, drives, and utilities to identify them, most of the information comes from the drive and its firmware. If the drive cannot recognize the MID code, it may simply use a default write strategy. Many drives (HLDS--Hitachi/LG in particular) default write strategies cautiously back down the write speed a rating or two in order to make a better recording. The utility, whether it is DVDInfoPro, Nero Infotool, or others, gets its information from the drive. If, for example, the firmware does not recognize a disc at all and claims that one is not even in the drive, the utility will state the same thing. The utility sees what the drive sees and translates it into more useful information.

The Taiyo Yuden discs that appear to be 4X in one drive can be rated by the factory as high as 16X because some 16X drives can record at that speed--and some new drives may even be capable of 18X, for whatever that's worth. Faster rated discs are flatter, have tighter specs on the groove geometry, have thinner dye coatings, and require more power than slower rated discs. I have seen better results with 8X media than with 16X, and I prefer to record 8X media at 4X for the best performance.
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shiny silver only produce a holografic refelction like and have less printing detail.... btw what you mean if you align it right?


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@Gus

when you stretch you picture over the templet o dont sometime get it lined up perfectly. i should zoom in and make sure i have all the printing area cover'd... thats if you are useing the epson cd/dvd printer..
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
@Gus

when you stretch you picture over the templet o dont sometime get it lined up perfectly. i should zoom in and make sure i have all the printing area cover'd... thats if you are useing the epson cd/dvd printer..
lol you re size it?

do this

open print cd app hit "import" > picture > twain> scan the dvd then fianly once back on print cd go to a tab on the left side where it shows on the last one on the bottom but the one up ( its yellow ) it should be inner outter dimesion settings , click on it and for inner dimensions choose value of 18 and outer choose 120 then you can save settings...

this is if you are scanining your original dvds

what method r u doing? just give this one a try


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Here a TYG02 That I [checked w/ DVDInfo] have been burning at 4x but mostly 6x with out any play back problems and this is a "premuim line" disk- I still have not tested the Ant bully on that TYG03 "Value Line" that is supossed to be a 16x as someone stated- do you think the drive is still learning the media- and as Joe stated above if it is in the drive [one of his conclusions] then why does CloneDVD state 4x and 6x times burning in the log file- Like I stated I will test the movie tonight and get back with ya... very strange stuff here????

@joe is there anything I can do to check the drive? It has not learned this media yet? any sujestions welcome...

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG02
UDF Format Type V1.02
UDF Volume Name See_No_Evil
UDF Application id ELBY CloneDVD
UDF Implementation id ELABORATE BYTES
UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 11/29/2006 15:06:46
Format Capacity 4.35GB(4.67GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 0E
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 13
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0E 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 18
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 85 78 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 D6 89 A8 92 01 20
4x Write Strategy field 6 10 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 22C66Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG02......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0E 11 ......."" ......


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30. November 2006 @ 03:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Gus
i just tried the way you sugested. that works pretty good useing the TWAIN. i never new what that was for or how it worked. the only thing i dont like about it is the reason i resize it, to get the gray area around the outside of the disc to not show on the new disc.
That is faster than me scanning the disc saveing to folder and then pullong from the folder...
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30. November 2006 @ 05:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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@joe is there anything I can do to check the drive? It has not learned this media yet? any sujestions welcome...
If the media sin't supported in ther firmware update, then your drive will revert back to its normal writing strategy. So, unless you use hacked firmware (i shoudl think that would work?) then I doubt there's any way to get round it? I'm sure Joe can clear things up... :-)


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