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JoeRyan
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30. November 2006 @ 07:04 |
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Herrick--
The only way most drives learn the proper write strategy is by a firmware update. These updates fix any problems engineers have uncovered and typically add new MID codes of discs the engineers have tested and for which the engineers have written specific write strategies. Some new Lite-on drives claim "smart optical power calibration" that, I believe, writes unrecognized discs at a default strategy then checks the results. If the results are good, the drive is supposed to remember the settings. If the results are not good, it changes them the next time it encounters the same ADIP/MID code. (It is a bit like the "auto-bias" settings some cassette recorders employed.)
Your BenQ DW-1655 drive was being manufactured in late 2005 and early 2006. This was before Taiyo Yuden introduced 16X media. TY was late with 16X media and a bit cautious in introducing them. That caution deserves some respect: 16X media are no improvement over 8X and are deficient in at least some respects. The TYG03 are rated at 16X, but not all drives will recognize them as 16X. At least one supplier rejected TY 16X for reasons of incompatibility, not quality; and that rejection was merely because these media were late to market.
That is ordinarily not a problem because firmware updates used to fix compatibility problems regularly. But once drive prices fell through the floor, manufacturers cut back severely--and the firmware engineers were among the first to go. I've lost a lot of friends to those cuts, and those cuts hurt consumers worse! There are three solutions: 1) buy a new BenQ (which is what the drive makers hope everyone does from now on; 2) write at 8X or 6X on real 16X media; or 3) hope BenQ issues a f/w update to the 1655 that will add TYG03 support at 16X. #2 is the best choice because you ought to record at slower speeds on any drive, new or old, anyway. Keep an eye out for f/w updates from BenQ. I wouldn't worry about any quality problems. They are TY after all.
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30. November 2006 @ 12:23 |
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So no matter what Clone or Nero states even if there is a differce from when I burn at 4x-6x to 16X the drive is only set at 4x? why is there a differance when I change write speeds... I did for the first time a movie at 16X and the time was alot faster then at 6x but accourding to that DVDIinfoPro it is stuck at 4X.... at any rate where can I get the firmware you speak of? again thanks for all your help-
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30. November 2006 @ 12:24 |
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just got joes reply right after I sent the above will read now...
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30. November 2006 @ 12:31 |
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Good reading and as always informitive, but I understand what you are saying... what I dont under stand is the DVDInfoPro [both I have posted above]gave me the same specs[4x] for both TYG03 and the TYG02- If my drives dont like the TYG03 becaues of timeing factors thats one thing, but TYG02 have been around for some time [as far as I know-which is not much LOL]
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1. December 2006 @ 10:05 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
@Gus
i just tried the way you sugested. that works pretty good useing the TWAIN. i never new what that was for or how it worked. the only thing i dont like about it is the reason i resize it, to get the gray area around the outside of the disc to not show on the new disc.
That is faster than me scanning the disc saveing to folder and then pullong from the folder...
what you mean of the resizing? also what scanner you have ?
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1. December 2006 @ 11:40 |
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when you twain it to the templte you still get the silver ring from the outside of the disc. i dont like that on there. i know it petty buy hey..i use my lexmark x75printer/copy/scanner
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gus738
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1. December 2006 @ 11:44 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
when you twain it to the templte you still get the silver ring from the outside of the disc. i dont like that on there. i know it petty buy hey..i use my lexmark x75printer/copy/scanner
hmm im not fellowing you , when you choose import>picture>twain>then from twain its already set , no needing to adjust noting you just press ok , oh and did you change the inner/outter dimetor settings?
inner 18 outter 120 , well regarding the scanner i have the epson620 and on professional mode theirs this option that has a descreening thing which removes all the lines from the original disc when its scanned but again what you mean by that gray thing or the disc?
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1. December 2006 @ 12:51 |
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look at the original disc on the outer edge of the disc you will see a silver ring about a 1/8 inch. thats what i dont want on the one im printing on. and yes i have the inner and oute set at 20 and 120.
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1. December 2006 @ 17:19 |
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ooh you mean the shiny part of the edges of the disc ... i was wondering how to take that off without cutting the letters did you find a solution? is the value 20 insted of 18 so it cuts out that shiny thing?
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1. December 2006 @ 18:02 |
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@Gus
to get that part off thats when i adjust it(resize it).i use 20 for the inner setting. but i am useing verbs not tys i think there is a little difference. 18 on the verbs tends to get on the very inner clear part of the dis.
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2. December 2006 @ 14:25 |
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I can't believe DocTY's thread is almost 3500 posts long. Give the Doc his own forum lol.
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2. December 2006 @ 15:22 |
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Dang Joshewah that's an awful lot of posts to count :0)
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2. December 2006 @ 16:06 |
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What happen to the # 7 [ # of completion] ah, ah, never mind- to much home roasted and grinded coffeeeeeee...
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3. December 2006 @ 02:49 |
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Originally posted by Joshewah:
I can't believe DocTY's thread is almost 3500 posts long. Give the Doc his own forum lol.
hehe, that would be nice wouldn't it? LOL
it's too bad i'm not here much anymore though, but i'm thoroughly flattered by the thought :)
good day to you all~
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Yujenh
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3. December 2006 @ 18:46 |
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hello guys,
i got couple questions about those TY silver thermal printable.
on my email it saids 71.99 with free ground shipping. when i clicked on the link it came up to be 76.99.
the second question is that am i still aboe to write on the top of the surface??
DVD-R-4-7gb-shiny-silver-finish-200.html?WT.mc_id=060926emailTaiyoYuden_4262_DVD01X0250-200" target="_blank">http://www.supermediastore.com/-taiyo-yu..._DVD01X0250-200
thanks guys
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3. December 2006 @ 19:03 |
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i see them for 73.99 for the 200 pack , and yes you can write on them with a sharpie
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4. December 2006 @ 09:43 |
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Meritline has carts for the epson 36 for $36.00 darn I paid $55.20 on the 30th for 48 well have to order another 36 today. Chris
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6. December 2006 @ 16:17 |
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where has everyone gone? is there anyone here that was here 4 months ago???????
all the knowledge is missing and missed.
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gus738
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6. December 2006 @ 16:19 |
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lol ditto whres everyone?
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Yujenh
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6. December 2006 @ 17:44 |
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hello gus and rub,
i guess you guys are only one around. everybody else probably went XMAS shopping or something.
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6. December 2006 @ 19:10 |
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yea it tends to look that way... got all my shopping done...YEA!!!!
kinda like the song...where have all the goodtimes gone????
maybe they are out with Creaky snagging up all those UtlraSexy verbs...
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6. December 2006 @ 21:36 |
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I am still here just lurkin around trying to stay out of trouble. lol. Don't mention those 'sexy' VERB TY's that creaky gets, it gets me jealous and all worked up thinking about them. lol. All is good here, how bout your part of the world cincyrob?
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6. December 2006 @ 22:03 |
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if you guys need Taiyo Yuden media SMS is having a sale till the 8th so i would jump on it they haven't been running TY on sale as of late much
DVD-R-media-value-line.html" target="_blank">http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yud...value-line.html
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7. December 2006 @ 02:35 |
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i haven't bought any Ultra sexy "Verb TY's" for the longest while as i have so many in stock, but every time one of you mentions them i do a quick inventory to ensure i have enough in stock, and i've still got loads in, but i usually head over to http://www.svp.co.uk shortly afterwards which i'll do when i've finished catching up with all my AD replies.
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7. December 2006 @ 03:38 |
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@ Creaky
Your to funny... whats odd about it i think all of us here do the same thing after we talk about something we gotta check out what we actually have left in our own invatory pile...lmao.
i know i dont have as much as some or most of you ADers, but i have built me up a nice little stock pile.
got aobut 40 8x+r hub printable verbs.,30 16x-r MIJ sony's,10 8x+r MIJ sony's, just bought a 50pc cakebox of 16x+r verbs. and i still have about 5 or 6 of the 8x+r TY's, that TY sent me as samples... i just cant find a movie worth useing those puppies...lol plus i still have about 20 of those cheapy K-hypermedia 8x-r's that i bought trying out the -r media when i was haven the problem with those bad verbs i got....so i got about 140 good disc and 20 i can use as coasters...lol
i would have had about 200 of those 16x+r verbs, if i didnt but that 250 gb barracuda for 59 buck.... got that and a 50pc cake instead...bestbuy had some good stuff on sale then...lol
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