Originally posted by nd411:

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thanks to everyone that has provided a ton of great info! My HD content streaming to PS3 is doing well because of it.

Curious about a few things still:

1) as noted in the above, some mkv's contain encodes that (reason #2) will not play the video on the PS3 as m2t. I've used tsmuxer and mkv2vob. With tsmuxerGUI, it just remux the mkv to m2ts and of course, it will not play the video. With mkv2vob, it detects this and does a transcode (which can take some time), and remux as m2ts and that plays fine stream from TVersity to my PS3. Is there a setting in tsmuxergui to do the same? and even if there was, I'm guessing it will take just as long...? Becuase of this, i'm just using mkv2vob now.

2) if the mkv has DTS, using mkv2vob, it will auto convert it to AC3, where tsmuxer does not...again, I wish tsmuxer has this feature built-in. Has anyone using the mkv2vob to convert dts to ac3 find it not as good as if you demux and convert the dts using a specific tool?

3) because of the above two I tend to use mkv2vob now...was wondering if anyone has tested the difference between transcode to mpg2 and 264? the menu says mpg2 is the fastest and 264 is the slowest...well, the mkv's are already 264, so:
- is there a speed difference when it has to transcode for PS3 video compatibility?
- is there a noticible video quality difference between the end results with mpg2 and 264 when transcoding the mkv with mkv2vob?

I've been doing them in mpeg2 since it was the default setting.

Again, thanks for all the great info!

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Originally posted by nd411:

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thanks to everyone that has provided a ton of great info! My HD content streaming to PS3 is doing well because of it.

Curious about a few things still:

1) as noted in the above, some mkv's contain encodes that (reason #2) will not play the video on the PS3 as m2t. I've used tsmuxer and mkv2vob. With tsmuxerGUI, it just remux the mkv to m2ts and of course, it will not play the video. With mkv2vob, it detects this and does a transcode (which can take some time), and remux as m2ts and that plays fine stream from TVersity to my PS3. Is there a setting in tsmuxergui to do the same? and even if there was, I'm guessing it will take just as long...? Becuase of this, i'm just using mkv2vob now.

2) if the mkv has DTS, using mkv2vob, it will auto convert it to AC3, where tsmuxer does not...again, I wish tsmuxer has this feature built-in. Has anyone using the mkv2vob to convert dts to ac3 find it not as good as if you demux and convert the dts using a specific tool?

3) because of the above two I tend to use mkv2vob now...was wondering if anyone has tested the difference between transcode to mpg2 and 264? the menu says mpg2 is the fastest and 264 is the slowest...well, the mkv's are already 264, so:
- is there a speed difference when it has to transcode for PS3 video compatibility?
- is there a noticible video quality difference between the end results with mpg2 and 264 when transcoding the mkv with mkv2vob?

I've been doing them in mpeg2 since it was the default setting.

Again, thanks for all the great info!

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Originally posted by odin24:

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3. Let me put it to you this way, to get the same picture quality with mpeg2 and h264 the mpeg2 file would have to be nearly a third larger than the h264 file.

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Originally posted by Ryu77:

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Originally posted by odin24:

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3. Let me put it to you this way, to get the same picture quality with mpeg2 and h264 the mpeg2 file would have to be nearly a third larger than the h264 file.

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33% larger?... Try 300% larger!

Seriously, this is not a joke. I have seen production studio 1080p MPEG2 encodes (Blu-ray) that are 20GB+ in size look worse than my 8GB H264 REcodes (re-encoded from a VC-1 or AVC/H264 Blu-ray source).

My thoughts of MPEG2 are kind of obvious, aren't they? :-P. It is an older codec that was (and still is) great for standard DVD's. However, with the emergence of VC-1 and AVC/H264 support in Blu-ray discs... Well the difference is clear!

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Originally posted by contteste:

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by contteste:

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Hi Odin, thank you so much for the reply.

Yes, I am aware of newer releases, and I know TS muxer can change to 4.1, however I was doing it the "old" way cause I heard that sometimes the new way is not successful.

I understand the way you suggest, but I have another question.
Let's say I have a 1.mkv file, and a 1.srt file. If I split 1.mkv to A.m2ts and B.m2ts, how should I proceed with the 1.srt when creating blu-ray structure from A and B ? can I use the same subtitle, or do I have to split it also ?

Thanks,
Stef

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When you remux the whole .mkv to one .m2ts, then split the .m2ts to two files the .srt will split with it. When going from the first disc to the next the subs should pick up where it left off.

As for the unsuccessful attempts using tsMuxeR it is because the h264 video stream was recoded outside of Blu-Ray compliancy, if it does not work for tsMuxeR it will not work for mkv2vob either. These are usually 1920x1080p movies.

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Thanks Odin, I'll give it a try this way !

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Originally posted by leemjas:

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Contteste/Odin/
2 questions:

Hi did tsMuxeR manage to split the.sub correctly?
When the .mkv is not 1920x1080 or 1280x720 compliant I get a green screen what is the easiest way around this?

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by leemjas:

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Contteste/Odin/
2 questions:

Hi did tsMuxeR manage to split the.sub correctly?
When the .mkv is not 1920x1080 or 1280x720 compliant I get a green screen what is the easiest way around this?

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You need to recode the video to make it either 1920x1080 or 1280x720. If the video is anything but those two resolutions then muxed to Blu-Ray you'll get a big green bar.

There's instructions througout this thread and this one http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346 on how to recode using MeGUI/AviSynth.

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Originally posted by leemjas:

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Thanks Odin for your reply;

in terms of recoding which is easier/better to use ripbot264 or MeGUI/AviSynth ?

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by nd411:

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1. First, let me say mkv2vob "IS THE DEBIL!!!" (Waterboy), I'd stay away from it. Two reasons, when it does transcode it does so to mpeg2, so right there you're losing PQ as mpeg2 is nowhere near as efficient as h264. Secondly, for the PS3 anything except m2ts requires splitting with files above 4GB.

Also, tsMuxeR is strictly a muxer, no recoding involved. If you're really into this kinda thing I'd get familiarized with AVISynth and MeGUI when recodes are neccesary, that way it is done properly to h264.

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Hi Odin24,

Can you provide some more direction for using AVISynth and MeGui for VC- 1 to H.264 recodes?
Are there supporting software needed like certain codecs?

Thanks.

Originally posted by ezryel:

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by nd411:

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1. First, let me say mkv2vob "IS THE DEBIL!!!" (Waterboy), I'd stay away from it. Two reasons, when it does transcode it does so to mpeg2, so right there you're losing PQ as mpeg2 is nowhere near as efficient as h264. Secondly, for the PS3 anything except m2ts requires splitting with files above 4GB.

Also, tsMuxeR is strictly a muxer, no recoding involved. If you're really into this kinda thing I'd get familiarized with AVISynth and MeGUI when recodes are neccesary, that way it is done properly to h264.

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Hi Odin24,

Can you provide some more direction for using AVISynth and MeGui for VC- 1 to H.264 recodes?
Are there supporting software needed like certain codecs?

Thanks.

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I can help you...........


After you use Tsmuxer to Demux & get your audio & raw VC-1 video file use mkvmerge GUI to put the video only in a mkv container(you will use the audio later) so Megui can see the file.Just follow the rest of the guide & it should help you i was stuck on the also.

Originally posted by ooZEROoo:

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I was on Ps3hax and found this. I haven't tried it yet but I wonder if it can one stop encode even if the file is not true 720 or 1080. Please check it out and give an opinion to the community.

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Originally posted by NexGen76:

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Originally posted by ezryel:

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by nd411:

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1. First, let me say mkv2vob "IS THE DEBIL!!!" (Waterboy), I'd stay away from it. Two reasons, when it does transcode it does so to mpeg2, so right there you're losing PQ as mpeg2 is nowhere near as efficient as h264. Secondly, for the PS3 anything except m2ts requires splitting with files above 4GB.

Also, tsMuxeR is strictly a muxer, no recoding involved. If you're really into this kinda thing I'd get familiarized with AVISynth and MeGUI when recodes are neccesary, that way it is done properly to h264.

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Hi Odin24,

Can you provide some more direction for using AVISynth and MeGui for VC- 1 to H.264 recodes?
Are there supporting software needed like certain codecs?

Thanks.

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I can help you...........


After you use Tsmuxer to Demux & get your audio & raw VC-1 video file use mkvmerge GUI to put the video only in a mkv container(you will use the audio later) so Megui can see the file.Just follow the rest of the guide & it should help you i was stuck on the also.

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Hi NexGen76,
I demuxed with TsMuxer and mkvmerge Gui will not load the raw .vc1 file for me. I've changed the file extention to a number of different ones...no luck. I've also tried going straight to MeGui but it seems to need an Avisynth script.

Any helpful links on how to do this?

More importantly, should I really be doing this...is there any video quality loss at all?

Thanks

Originally posted by ezryel:

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Hi NexGen76,
I demuxed with TsMuxer and mkvmerge Gui will not load the raw .vc1 file for me. I've changed the file extention to a number of different ones...no luck. I've also tried going straight to MeGui but it seems to need an Avisynth script.

Any helpful links on how to do this?

More importantly, should I really be doing this...is there any video quality loss at all?

Thanks

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by ezryel:

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Hi NexGen76,
I demuxed with TsMuxer and mkvmerge Gui will not load the raw .vc1 file for me. I've changed the file extention to a number of different ones...no luck. I've also tried going straight to MeGui but it seems to need an Avisynth script.

Any helpful links on how to do this?

More importantly, should I really be doing this...is there any video quality loss at all?

Thanks

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Use tsMuxeR and mux to m2ts. tsMuxeR takes vc1 and MeGUI takes m2ts. Do not change the file extension.

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Originally posted by ezryel:

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Hi Odin24,
I'm streaming the M2TS files to the PS3 rather than burning to DVD9 so I'm forced to recode VC1 to H264 so that I can have 5.1 audio.

Am I wasting my time trying to recode VC1 to H264 due to video quality loss?

Thanks

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Originally posted by odin24:

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Originally posted by ezryel:

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Hi Odin24,
I'm streaming the M2TS files to the PS3 rather than burning to DVD9 so I'm forced to recode VC1 to H264 so that I can have 5.1 audio.

Am I wasting my time trying to recode VC1 to H264 due to video quality loss?

Thanks

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I'm assuming your vc1 encoded file was from a BD rip. You can recode using MeGUI to h264 directly from the original m2ts (20+GB file). Technically yes, you will lose quality if you go from say 20GB vc1 file to 10GB h264 file, however if you use a good MeGUI Blu-Ray profile like Ryu77's the perceivable quality loss is zero.

I like to archive my BD rips to DVD9... the good movies at least, they look just as good as the original because I always use Ryu77's MeGUI BD profile.

Now, if all your intentions are is just to stream and view, then delete, and maximum PQ it too important sacrifice; you can recode to h264 to a 20+GB file, which will match the bit rate from the source file, which means no quality loss.

Here's a good one for ya; I've recoded a BD that was encoded in mpeg2 to h264 (DVD9) and the h264 version looked much better at half of the bit rate than the source.

To quickly summarize, definetly recode to h264. Good luck, O!

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Originally posted by ezryel:

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Ok so I'm trying to learn how to use MeGui...I'm not finding it easy.

I see that Ryu77?s MeGui profile is an xml, I can't find a place in MeGui to place it or call it up through. I open Ryu77?s MeGui profile and allow it to execute something and it seems to update itself with the location of MeGui. I then open MeGui and I don't see anything different about MeGui or the options available to me...that the first thing I don?t get right now.

The second, Megui will not open either a raw vc-1 or the original m2ts file from my BD rip. It seems to only want to load an Avisynth script. I've looked through Avisynth and can?t figure out how to create a "script" to load into MeGui to do what I want...vc-1 to h.264.

I'll read some "how to" docs for MeGui, in the meantime, a very important question:

If VC -1 is more efficient than h.264, should I not be increasing the bitrate for the output h.264 file proportionally to ensure no PQ loss?

At the moment my display is a 46' Aquos, soon these files will be viewed on a much larger display where the PQ loss will likely be perceivable.

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Originally posted by odin24:

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If you haven't already make sure you have the proper x264.exe file, go here and download it. http://megui.org/auto/x264-886.zip

Here is where you put it.
Remember where you made your "Profiles" folder, make another one called "tools" (not in the Profiles folder), in that folder make one called "x264" and place the x264.exe file in there. Before your first recode you need to tell MeGUI where it is, to do this go to Options-->Settings-->Program Paths and find the directory where you placed the MeGUI/tools/x264/x264.exe. Place just the .exe file there, not the whole zip file.

Hope this answers some of your questions, stick with it, it is worth it.
O!

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Originally posted by NexGen76:

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Do i need to do this i never done this since i started using Megui? Also what the difference if there is one.

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