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PS3 compatible video creation thread (tsMuxeR etc.).
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13. June 2008 @ 01:36 |
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Originally posted by contteste: Hi everybody,
Recently I found the way to make AVCHD out of .mkv files, in order to play HD movies on my PS3.
So, as you described many times in prior posts, I use mkvextract to obtain the .h264, .ac3 files out of a .mkv, then I run h264info to change the level to 4.1 and finally I use tsmuxer to create a Blu-ray structure (note: I also insert a .srt file, with subtitles for my language - not English :p ).
My question is if anyone knows how to proceed with output files bigger than 4.7 GB. I know tsmuxer has the ability to split files, but I have seen the following result:
Have a let's say 6 GB .h264 and it's equivalent .ac3 file and .srt file, load them in tsmuxer, choose to split at 4 gb -> the output is a blu-ray structure, with the folders BMDV and CERTIFICATE, and in BMDV/STREAM/ i have 2 files - let's say xxxx.m2ts and yyyy.m2ts.
My question (boy, I thought i won't stop writing) is:
Is there any way to write this on 2x 4.7gb DVDs ?
Thank you for your time,
Stef
Stef, you're going at it the old way. tsMuxeR has come along way since this post started. Here's the easiest way to get your 6GB movie on two DVD5s.
First of all make sure you have the latest version of tsMuxeR. There is a link for it in this thread.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
1. Load your mkv directly in to tsMuxeR.
2. tsMuxeR now has the ability to change the AVC level, so now we can leave out the h264info step. Highlight the video stream, check the "change AVC level" box and change it to 4.1.
3. Split the output file in tsMuxeR to whatever file size you choose, obviously do not go bigger than 4.3GB.
4. Select m2ts as the output file type and start muxing.
Now you should have two m2ts files. Load one m2ts file in tsMuxeR, select Blu-Ray as the output (Blu-Ray is needed for subtitle suppport). There is no need to change the AVC level here as it was already done earler. Repeat for the other m2ts file.
Now you can burn using whichever app you please, make sure you burn to the UDF 2.5 file system.
Done!
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LeeKay
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13. June 2008 @ 04:07 |
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mkv2vob converted file playing in 4:3 on PS3
I have a 1440x1080 video here with 640K 5.1 (which needs to be intact in the final product). It was originally perfect widescreen but now when I convert it for PS3 it plays in a 4:3 area only. Really irritating, this is the first video that has done this. It plays in VLC wrong too. But the original mkv file plays perfectly (on the computer). So it's something mkv2vob is doing. But there are pretty much no options as far as aspect ratio goes in that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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13. June 2008 @ 04:15 |
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Originally posted by LeeKay: mkv2vob converted file playing in 4:3 on PS3
I have a 1440x1080 video here with 640K 5.1 (which needs to be intact in the final product). It was originally perfect widescreen but now when I convert it for PS3 it plays in a 4:3 area only. Really irritating, this is the first video that has done this. It plays in VLC wrong too. But the original mkv file plays perfectly (on the computer). So it's something mkv2vob is doing. But there are pretty much no options as far as aspect ratio goes in that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Ditch mkv2vob and use tsMuxeR. See my other post just before yours. One thing though, I have never tried a 1440x1080 video in tsMuxeR, it should work though.
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contteste
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13. June 2008 @ 04:49 |
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Originally posted by odin24: Originally posted by contteste: Hi everybody,
Recently I found the way to make AVCHD out of .mkv files, in order to play HD movies on my PS3.
So, as you described many times in prior posts, I use mkvextract to obtain the .h264, .ac3 files out of a .mkv, then I run h264info to change the level to 4.1 and finally I use tsmuxer to create a Blu-ray structure (note: I also insert a .srt file, with subtitles for my language - not English :p ).
My question is if anyone knows how to proceed with output files bigger than 4.7 GB. I know tsmuxer has the ability to split files, but I have seen the following result:
Have a let's say 6 GB .h264 and it's equivalent .ac3 file and .srt file, load them in tsmuxer, choose to split at 4 gb -> the output is a blu-ray structure, with the folders BMDV and CERTIFICATE, and in BMDV/STREAM/ i have 2 files - let's say xxxx.m2ts and yyyy.m2ts.
My question (boy, I thought i won't stop writing) is:
Is there any way to write this on 2x 4.7gb DVDs ?
Thank you for your time,
Stef
Stef, you're going at it the old way. tsMuxeR has come along way since this post started. Here's the easiest way to get your 6GB movie on two DVD5s.
First of all make sure you have the latest version of tsMuxeR. There is a link for it in this thread.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
1. Load your mkv directly in to tsMuxeR.
2. tsMuxeR now has the ability to change the AVC level, so now we can leave out the h264info step. Highlight the video stream, check the "change AVC level" box and change it to 4.1.
3. Split the output file in tsMuxeR to whatever file size you choose, obviously do not go bigger than 4.3GB.
4. Select m2ts as the output file type and start muxing.
Now you should have two m2ts files. Load one m2ts file in tsMuxeR, select Blu-Ray as the output (Blu-Ray is needed for subtitle suppport). There is no need to change the AVC level here as it was already done earler. Repeat for the other m2ts file.
Now you can burn using whichever app you please, make sure you burn to the UDF 2.5 file system.
Done!
Hi Odin, thank you so much for the reply.
Yes, I am aware of newer releases, and I know TS muxer can change to 4.1, however I was doing it the "old" way cause I heard that sometimes the new way is not successful.
I understand the way you suggest, but I have another question.
Let's say I have a 1.mkv file, and a 1.srt file. If I split 1.mkv to A.m2ts and B.m2ts, how should I proceed with the 1.srt when creating blu-ray structure from A and B ? can I use the same subtitle, or do I have to split it also ?
Thanks,
Stef
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13. June 2008 @ 04:58 |
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Originally posted by contteste:
Hi Odin, thank you so much for the reply.
Yes, I am aware of newer releases, and I know TS muxer can change to 4.1, however I was doing it the "old" way cause I heard that sometimes the new way is not successful.
I understand the way you suggest, but I have another question.
Let's say I have a 1.mkv file, and a 1.srt file. If I split 1.mkv to A.m2ts and B.m2ts, how should I proceed with the 1.srt when creating blu-ray structure from A and B ? can I use the same subtitle, or do I have to split it also ?
Thanks,
Stef
When you remux the whole .mkv to one .m2ts, then split the .m2ts to two files the .srt will split with it. When going from the first disc to the next the subs should pick up where it left off.
As for the unsuccessful attempts using tsMuxeR it is because the h264 video stream was recoded outside of Blu-Ray compliancy, if it does not work for tsMuxeR it will not work for mkv2vob either. These are usually 1920x1080p movies.
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contteste
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13. June 2008 @ 05:10 |
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Originally posted by odin24: Originally posted by contteste:
Hi Odin, thank you so much for the reply.
Yes, I am aware of newer releases, and I know TS muxer can change to 4.1, however I was doing it the "old" way cause I heard that sometimes the new way is not successful.
I understand the way you suggest, but I have another question.
Let's say I have a 1.mkv file, and a 1.srt file. If I split 1.mkv to A.m2ts and B.m2ts, how should I proceed with the 1.srt when creating blu-ray structure from A and B ? can I use the same subtitle, or do I have to split it also ?
Thanks,
Stef
When you remux the whole .mkv to one .m2ts, then split the .m2ts to two files the .srt will split with it. When going from the first disc to the next the subs should pick up where it left off.
As for the unsuccessful attempts using tsMuxeR it is because the h264 video stream was recoded outside of Blu-Ray compliancy, if it does not work for tsMuxeR it will not work for mkv2vob either. These are usually 1920x1080p movies.
Thanks Odin, I'll give it a try this way !
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nordesmic
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14. June 2008 @ 02:05 |
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Hi,
I've been using tsMuxer and MKV2VOB since they came out to transfer movies to my PS3 over ethernet from my computer. I had no problems until I encountered MKV files that had subtitles....
This has proven to be a major pain in the arse. As I understand it is not possible to hardcode the subs into the HD vob file and display them on the PS3. Can someone confirm whether this is the case?
I know that it possible to add them into a Bluray structure using tsMuxer but I would like to stream the movies rather than burn them onto discs. Surely the PS3 would add the ability to display these subtitles in a near-future firmware update?
Thanks for your help
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mixja666
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14. June 2008 @ 02:42 |
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Originally posted by nordesmic: Hi,
I've been using tsMuxer and MKV2VOB since they came out to transfer movies to my PS3 over ethernet from my computer. I had no problems until I encountered MKV files that had subtitles....
This has proven to be a major pain in the arse. As I understand it is not possible to hardcode the subs into the HD vob file and display them on the PS3. Can someone confirm whether this is the case?
I know that it possible to add them into a Bluray structure using tsMuxer but I would like to stream the movies rather than burn them onto discs. Surely the PS3 would add the ability to display these subtitles in a near-future firmware update?
Thanks for your help
You can hardcode the subs, but you'll have to re-encode the video. You can use MKV2VOB to do this, or there is an alternative method using MeGUI and AviSynth.
As to future subtitle support, let's hope so, most of the time you have to hardcode the subs because your video source is not the exact AVCHD compliant 1920x1080 or 1280x720 resolution. And hopefully they bring out support for DTS and other HD audio codecs...
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nordesmic
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14. June 2008 @ 07:04 |
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Originally posted by mixja666:
You can hardcode the subs, but you'll have to re-encode the video. You can use MKV2VOB to do this, or there is an alternative method using MeGUI and AviSynth.
As to future subtitle support, let's hope so, most of the time you have to hardcode the subs because your video source is not the exact AVCHD compliant 1920x1080 or 1280x720 resolution. And hopefully they bring out support for DTS and other HD audio codecs...
Thanks for that. I knew about the MKV2VOB ability to re-encode the subs into an MPEG2 file. I tried it once and was not overly impressed with the results. Could you point me in a direction of a guide on how to do the subs in MeGUI? I haven't had much experience with AviSynth though.
Thanks
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14. June 2008 @ 08:00 |
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Originally posted by nordesmic: Originally posted by mixja666:
You can hardcode the subs, but you'll have to re-encode the video. You can use MKV2VOB to do this, or there is an alternative method using MeGUI and AviSynth.
As to future subtitle support, let's hope so, most of the time you have to hardcode the subs because your video source is not the exact AVCHD compliant 1920x1080 or 1280x720 resolution. And hopefully they bring out support for DTS and other HD audio codecs...
Thanks for that. I knew about the MKV2VOB ability to re-encode the subs into an MPEG2 file. I tried it once and was not overly impressed with the results. Could you point me in a direction of a guide on how to do the subs in MeGUI? I haven't had much experience with AviSynth though.
Thanks
True subs are only truly compatiblie in the BD structure and AviSynth/Megui for recoding to this structure is your best way. Also DTS has been supported by the PS3 since day 1, just in the AVCHD/BD format... I think even it is compatible in the vob format (not sure though.
@ nordsmic,
If you read through this thread you'll find a lot of good information on how to do this. Here's another thread that is better.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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Nilaya
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14. June 2008 @ 09:21 |
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I'm having an annoying problem.
It's basically the same problem I posted about here some time ago.
Some of the videos I'm trying to mux have a different pixel width than display width.
For example this video I'm trying to mux has a diplay width of 1280x528
BUT the resolution is only 960x528.
So it seems like TSMuxer AND mkv2vob removes the display width info from the video which results that the display width is also 960x528 after muxing.
So the video becomes stretched.
Is there any way to counter this?
I guess the only way around this, is to re-encode the whole video in a way that the pixel width is the same as display width.
Is there a good software for that?
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leemjas
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16. June 2008 @ 08:04 |
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When you remux the whole .mkv to one .m2ts, then split the .m2ts to two files the .srt will split with it. When going from the first disc to the next the subs should pick up where it left off.
Has anyone actually tried this? I thought subs were not supported with .m2ts and the only way is to hardcode them.
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16. June 2008 @ 09:55 |
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Originally posted by leemjas: When you remux the whole .mkv to one .m2ts, then split the .m2ts to two files the .srt will split with it. When going from the first disc to the next the subs should pick up where it left off.
Has anyone actually tried this? I thought subs were not supported with .m2ts and the only way is to hardcode them.
You are correct, subs in the m2ts alone are not compatible. Once the whole m2ts file (with subs in it) was split to two new m2ts files those would need to be remuxed to Blu-Ray structure. I was offering a way to split the subfile.
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contteste
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16. June 2008 @ 15:37 |
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Originally posted by odin24: Originally posted by leemjas: When you remux the whole .mkv to one .m2ts, then split the .m2ts to two files the .srt will split with it. When going from the first disc to the next the subs should pick up where it left off.
Has anyone actually tried this? I thought subs were not supported with .m2ts and the only way is to hardcode them.
You are correct, subs in the m2ts alone are not compatible. Once the whole m2ts file (with subs in it) was split to two new m2ts files those would need to be remuxed to Blu-Ray structure. I was offering a way to split the subfile.
Hi Odin, I have one more question.
So I should make a big m2ts file out of my big mkv, but with what tool should I split the m2ts to smaller m2ts files? By using tsmuxer?
Thanks!
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jruc03
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16. June 2008 @ 16:53 |
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I have a question I just set up my wireless router and i can now stream over these converted m2ts movies bigger than 4gb as well as save them on the ps3 hard drive as long as i change the extension to mpg instead of m2ts. I cannot seem to get any of the avchd movie files with dts audio in them to copy over to the hard drive and still play the dts track. Is there a way to do this or is it just not possible yet?
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16. June 2008 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by contteste:
Hi Odin, I have one more question.
So I should make a big m2ts file out of my big mkv, but with what tool should I split the m2ts to smaller m2ts files? By using tsmuxer?
Thanks!
You're on the right track. This can all be done in one step.
1. Load your mkv with the subs.
2. Highlight the video stream and set the AVC level from 5.1 to 4.1 if neccesary.
3. Set the output format to m2ts
4. Go to the Split & Cut tab, choose split by size and split down the middle, i.e. if your mkv is 6GB split it at 3GB.
5. Start muxing
Please note that I have never had the need to do this, so I have never actually done it. Let me know how it turns out.
Go here and read about a useful application I use for verifying movies with subs. It's real easy to use.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/8/639346
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InigoM
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16. June 2008 @ 21:58 |
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Hello,
Thanks for the great thread. I have read through it over the past weeks and had much success getting ps3 compatible video from mkv files using tsmuxer to convert to m2ts. I now have tried the more advanced methods to attempt to convert a 1080p dts mkv source to avchd which I'd like to play from an external HD. Using the information in this thread I was able to convert the video into something that is ps3 compliant:
1) tsmuxer to extract dts audio and 1080p video streams
2) megui, using rye's bluray profile, adding proper number of lines, changing number of ref frames from 5 to 4, etc.
3) tsmuxer to recombine the audio with the video from step 2 into bluray structure. Rename file structure to create AVCHD split into 4 Gig segments
My problem is that when I try to play off the external HD is that I get beautiful video, but no audio. Audio stream by itself plays fine in vlc.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Forza Italia!
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nordesmic
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16. June 2008 @ 22:16 |
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Originally posted by InigoM: Hello,
Thanks for the great thread. I have read through it over the past weeks and had much success getting ps3 compatible video from mkv files using tsmuxer to convert to m2ts. I now have tried the more advanced methods to attempt to convert a 1080p dts mkv source to avchd which I'd like to play from an external HD. Using the information in this thread I was able to convert the video into something that is ps3 compliant:
1) tsmuxer to extract dts audio and 1080p video streams
2) megui, using rye's bluray profile, adding proper number of lines, changing number of ref frames from 5 to 4, etc.
3) tsmuxer to recombine the audio with the video from step 2 into bluray structure. Rename file structure to create AVCHD split into 4 Gig segments
My problem is that when I try to play off the external HD is that I get beautiful video, but no audio. Audio stream by itself plays fine in vlc.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Forza Italia!
Your problem is that the PS3 cannot play DTS in the cross-media-bar. You can only decode DTS when playing from a bluray/dvd disc. You can play AC3 within AVCHD file though. You will need to convert the audio to AC3 using eac3to.
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InigoM
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16. June 2008 @ 22:29 |
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Thanks for the help, but I tried muxing again and now it works - not sure why it didn't work first time out. Anyhow, as stated earlier in the thread dts can play using AVCHD structure on an external HD.
Keep up the great work on this thread.
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leemjas
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17. June 2008 @ 01:17 |
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Odin
"Please note that I have never had the need to do this, so I have never actually done it. Let me know how it turns out. "
I was wondering what is your prefered method for playing converted .MKV with subtitles on the PS3?
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contteste
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17. June 2008 @ 14:03 |
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Originally posted by odin24: Originally posted by contteste:
Hi Odin, I have one more question.
So I should make a big m2ts file out of my big mkv, but with what tool should I split the m2ts to smaller m2ts files? By using tsmuxer?
Thanks!
You're on the right track. This can all be done in one step.
1. Load your mkv with the subs.
2. Highlight the video stream and set the AVC level from 5.1 to 4.1 if neccesary.
3. Set the output format to m2ts
4. Go to the Split & Cut tab, choose split by size and split down the middle, i.e. if your mkv is 6GB split it at 3GB.
5. Start muxing
Please note that I have never had the need to do this, so I have never actually done it. Let me know how it turns out.
Go here and read about a useful application I use for verifying movies with subs. It's real easy to use.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/8/639346
Works like a charm ! Thanks for the help
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contteste
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17. June 2008 @ 15:48 |
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hi again...does anyone have an idea why sometimes I get AVCHD dvds that have audio but no video (just a black screen)? what may be the cause of that?
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18. June 2008 @ 04:45 |
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Originally posted by contteste: hi again...does anyone have an idea why sometimes I get AVCHD dvds that have audio but no video (just a black screen)? what may be the cause of that?
The two most common reasons for this is;
1. The AVC level is higher than 4.1, tsMuxeR can change this... you just have to tell it to.
2. Most commonly with 1080p rips there is too many reference frames, b-frames/b-pyramid which exceed Blu-Ray compliancy. Most of the rips that you would download were not ripped with Blu-Ray playback in mind. The only way to fix this is to recode.
Hope this helps.
PS, glad to hear your subtitle issues are resolved.
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contteste
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18. June 2008 @ 05:04 |
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Originally posted by odin24: Originally posted by contteste: hi again...does anyone have an idea why sometimes I get AVCHD dvds that have audio but no video (just a black screen)? what may be the cause of that?
The two most common reasons for this is;
1. The AVC level is higher than 4.1, tsMuxeR can change this... you just have to tell it to.
2. Most commonly with 1080p rips there is too many reference frames, b-frames/b-pyramid which exceed Blu-Ray compliancy. Most of the rips that you would download were not ripped with Blu-Ray playback in mind. The only way to fix this is to recode.
Hope this helps.
PS, glad to hear your subtitle issues are resolved.
i think the main reason is number 2...cause i get some let's say warnings while muxing about b-pyramid or similar...then i should settle with the ones i can do...thanks ;)
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nd411
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19. June 2008 @ 18:21 |
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thanks to everyone that has provided a ton of great info! My HD content streaming to PS3 is doing well because of it.
Curious about a few things still:
1) as noted in the above, some mkv's contain encodes that (reason #2) will not play the video on the PS3 as m2t. I've used tsmuxer and mkv2vob. With tsmuxerGUI, it just remux the mkv to m2ts and of course, it will not play the video. With mkv2vob, it detects this and does a transcode (which can take some time), and remux as m2ts and that plays fine stream from TVersity to my PS3. Is there a setting in tsmuxergui to do the same? and even if there was, I'm guessing it will take just as long...? Becuase of this, i'm just using mkv2vob now.
2) if the mkv has DTS, using mkv2vob, it will auto convert it to AC3, where tsmuxer does not...again, I wish tsmuxer has this feature built-in. Has anyone using the mkv2vob to convert dts to ac3 find it not as good as if you demux and convert the dts using a specific tool?
3) because of the above two I tend to use mkv2vob now...was wondering if anyone has tested the difference between transcode to mpg2 and 264? the menu says mpg2 is the fastest and 264 is the slowest...well, the mkv's are already 264, so:
- is there a speed difference when it has to transcode for PS3 video compatibility?
- is there a noticible video quality difference between the end results with mpg2 and 264 when transcoding the mkv with mkv2vob?
I've been doing them in mpeg2 since it was the default setting.
Again, thanks for all the great info!
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