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4. October 2004 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

This is an editing/Remake problem, rather than an encoding problem. Menu editing takes some practice. I did Cold Mountain, and the menu works fine. I would suggest you check the Remake thread.

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4. October 2004 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Funny thing is, I tried a second time without editing the menu itself, just removing trailers and some extra material on the disc. That wouldn't change the menu at all if I didn't do it myself.
The result was still the same though.
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4. October 2004 @ 09:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Menu files aren't modified by DVD-RB.
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4. October 2004 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since DVD-RB doesn't change the menus at all, it pretty much has to be a DRM problem. If you think it's DVD-RB you should do the backup without using DRM at all. If it works doing it that way, it's definitely not DVD-RB's fault.

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4. October 2004 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sometimes removing things at the very start causes problems with the navigation...and thus the menu. This is especially true with First Play...which you see at the very beginning. This is an editing problem. I still suggest you check out the Remake threads.

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4. October 2004 @ 12:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Doc409

Hyperthreading offers no benefit to CCE but a dual CPU system does.

And I'm not about to ask what jdobbs deleted this time.

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4. October 2004 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All,

I recommend anyone who has downloaded v0.63 go here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75452

and download the v0.63a. I was a little hasty in my fix and it appears the "runt" VOBU fix has caused some rebuild problems.

Sorry.
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4. October 2004 @ 20:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Doc409: Sorry bout the delay in reply.. had to work ;)

Media Player has no issues playing any of the files under D2AVS.
I'm really baffled as to what the problem is... seems like avisynth is working okay.

I did rip multi-angles out with IFO edit.. but I cant see that causing a purple/pink output?
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4. October 2004 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

pebkac...I don't have any experience with IFOEdit and angles. Hopefully someone on this thread does. I think that could be the source of your problem, though. What happens with a movie without angles?
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4. October 2004 @ 22:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I havn't tried DVDRebuild with a different movie yet (I'm currently trying to backup the starwars trilogy).

I'll backup Walking Tall tonight, and see how that goes. I dont believe it has any multi-angles.
Post an update in the morning.
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4. October 2004 @ 22:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are problems being reported with the Star Wars Trilogy. I would suggest you make sure your setup works before taking on the SW Trilogy. This way, if something doesn't work right, you will know it's the data streams that aren't right.
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5. October 2004 @ 13:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On the subject of speed - how's this. My system is a PIII/2.4GHz 512 MB. Excluding ripping and burning RB 0.63a/SP v2.67.00.27/3 passes took a total of 6hrs 46min (phase 2 was 381min). Luckily I started it before I went to bed! But the end result is still worth the wait.
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5. October 2004 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Schaff1945...you didn't mention the size of the source files, but your encoding time seems about right for a larger DVD. And yes, once I got used to the quality, it has been well worth the wait.

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5. October 2004 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Schaf1945

They say you get what you pay for and to get quality backups you pay with time.

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5. October 2004 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Schaf, Bless you, you just made my four hours not seem so bad after all, here's to looong encoding times! LOL

Doc, Actually I did the Star Wars trilogy with DVDCopy 2 1st because of the multiple angles and the results were astounding! I was absolutely amazed! Picture perfect and no pixelation which reinforces my conviction if you use it on newer made movies you've got one hell of an app.

I then used DRM and stripped the two angles, then ran it through RB/CCE and to my surprise, no problems, worked like a charm, picture as usual was perfect.

What really amazed me was the closeness of the two burns considering Copy 2 kept all 3 angles while RB/CCE only had one. This was a side by side comparison at 300% magnification. Food for thought on those pesky multiple angles til our hero jdobbs gets RB to handle them. ;>)


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5. October 2004 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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til our hero jdobbs gets RB to handle them.
I'd prefer just a movie only option, that would get rid of the extra anlges without altering the DVD's structure beyond being workable.

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5. October 2004 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, jdobbs has been doing such fine work lately I just PayPal'd him a bonus. (I'll still renew my annual membership in the club.). When he tackles those angles, I'll dig a little deeper. :)

A movie only option would also be nice. Maybe we should give jdobbs a wish list so he knows what to do with his time? lol.


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5. October 2004 @ 15:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmmm...I'm mighty fond of that working menu. Besides I used dvd2dvd-r once and if i remember correctly it only does movie only, if one wanted to go that route. ;>)


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5. October 2004 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Besides I used dvd2dvd-r once and if i remember correctly it only does movie only, if one wanted to go that route.

You never did say how it worked out and to do an NTSC backup requires purchased software.

We already have a full backup system with RB with the only problem being interleaves and multi angles. I have a feeling that a movie only solution might be easier to resolve than the full version with inerleaves and multi anlges.

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5. October 2004 @ 20:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Re file size. Don't remember, but total movie time is 2H 54m no extras. It was disk 1 of a 2 disc set of the original 4:3 (pre digital) BBC TV series "I Claudius" circa 1975. Don't forget though it was 3 passes not 2. The same setup with 2 passes took much less time to do LOTR-ROTK., so I assume it is the extra pass?
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6. October 2004 @ 05:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You never did say how it worked out and to do an NTSC backup requires purchased software.

Actually sophocles, I did state how it turned out and I stated it did a very good job. I ripped with decrypter in file mode and used those with dvd2dvd-r. I used CCE Basic and DVDLab (which I have btw) using the guide which shows options to set for NTSC DVDs muxing with DVDLab. I also set auto burn with DVDLab. I just didn't care for the movie only option, but the quality was excellent, but that I preferred RB/CCE over dvd2dvd-r.

If you'll remember it was you who had me try it out. Anyway, since when have we let "purchased software " be a problem? ;>)

This was the guide I used.

http://www.davis28.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Gudie/guide.html




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6. October 2004 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
since when have we let "purchased software

How true!

I wasn't recommending that jdobbs get rid of the full mode only that he might be able to add a movie only option as well. I believe that DVD2DVD-R works with ineterleaves and multi angles because it is a movie only soft which bypasses the inteleaves and multi angles difficultlies.




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7. October 2004 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We're getting silly, jdobbs isn't a "have it your way" soft developer. I kind of like things the way they are.

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7. October 2004 @ 17:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

Sophocles...I would agree that RB is OK the way it is...at least for me anyway. There isn't much that can't be done with Remake/Remake Pro and Shrink to get the files ready for RB-CCE. It doesn't seem logical to have overlapping functions with RB at this point.
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7. October 2004 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No complaints here either, but if he wants to deal with multiple angles, who am I to say no? ;>)


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