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8. January 2006 @ 02:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i am getting the samsung 26 inch which is suposed to be the official xbox 360 HDTV, i am getting it b/c lots of other people are having problems with theri hdtv's showing nothing more than 480 or something so i should be safe with the samsung, its going to cost me a bit though.

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8. January 2006 @ 05:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can an hd-tuner change 1080i into 1080p? i think so.

anyways they have an official xbox 360 HDTV? how much you think samsung paid for that? how lame. but i want a 26" so give me a link to this tv.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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8. January 2006 @ 05:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it will probably be 720P, and will show only 1080i for games.
when looking at HDTV specs, the max rez it shows is for the resolution the TV will be at when viewing HD channel's only.
most 1336x768 rez (or very near that) HDTV's can show 1080i for games. and some lower rez ones can too, just that the normal TV mode will be lower quality.

a 1080P TV costs A FKING LOT. and its only a bit better than 1080i.
not lots, just a bit.
1080P currently is extremely bad value. you get hardly anything per £/$

therefore all low/medoum prices HDTV's will VERY LIKELY NOT have 1080P

Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.

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i was just wondering if the tuner would take 2 interlacings and make them into 1 Progressive.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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8. January 2006 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no that wont happen, but it would be good if that could happen.

the TV itself is physically not capable of displaying 1080P, regardles of the tuners and other accesories etc.

Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.
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8. January 2006 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry truthman to diasgree here but I read in a PC magazine (i am not 100% on this, cant find the magazine again) that CRT was 8ms and that there was a new LCD monitor that finally beats CRT in refresh rate with 4ms.

Also if I got a 360 I would have to get the Samsung the offical TV of the console. I would also get the same TV if I got a PS3 instead despite of how LAME anubis suggest but anything to do with 360 is lame accourding to anubis.

I do have one very important question. I am pretty sure you dont need a HDTV box to play HD games on the HD TV if you have a 360 or PS3 but I read in the PC magazine that you need a HD TV box even for a game console. Do you think they where talking about last generation game consoles or refering to the PS3 and 360 because I dont want to dish out more money for a HDTV box.

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yeah there was a tv at ces that toshiba brought out and its meant to be better than crt and all the rest, something like that, here it is.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/679/679235p1.html

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as far as i know this is the best website for games and other related stuff: www.ign.com
watch this with sound: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8802&type=mov
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8. January 2006 @ 17:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that would be awesome to get one of those.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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9. January 2006 @ 01:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think that t.v would pull my wall down and half my house with it, lol. Imagine trying to fit that thorugh your front door. I wouldn't say no though.

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the name for that techknolagy is awesome too.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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wtf, really zelda, because that is 100% incorrect.
CRT are the fastest thing out there (response times lower than 1ms).
that website fazyninga posted in said on it (the website) that response times can compete with CRT's (around 1ms for that super TV, lol, compares with CRT's 0.5 ms).

check out this too, this says it too.

http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1427/The-TeamXboxcom-Guide-to-H...

look at the LCD info around the response times area, and it says something about CRT's having a response time of less than 1ms.

im sorry but that magazine was incorrect.

all the rest of the site is also interesting to read, and quite helful for you HDTV prospect buyers.



Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.

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Federal regulations will not allow any DVI TV to show higher than 480p. You have to have an HDMI connection to receive any higher. So yeah, if your TV is not one with an HDMI connection in the back, you do not have a true High definition TV.


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9. January 2006 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HDMI is backward-compatible with DVI and quality is going to be compressed if you do not have an HDMI connection.

The article I read said: "High-definition digital video content is restricted to DVD quality on non-HDCP video outputs," and "DVD-Audio content is restricted to DAT quality on non-HDCP digital audio outputs (analog audio outputs have no quality limits)."

So when these truly High Definition videos arrive (they're even planning to have 1080p now), anything without an HDMI (and DVI is not HDMI) will not be allowed to transmit any higher than DVD quality, which is 480p.


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It?s all about price, 3DO anybody? Who remembers the 3DO and its intro price tag of $699.99 US. PS3 will have a larger price tag then the Xbox 360. That so much is certain, the first TV Top Blue-Ray players is currently running $1000.00 US or more. And 1080p Support, I don?t know anybody who owns an HDTV who has 1080p resolution. And HDTV?s that do support 1080p are very high priced. Your average ?Joe? Gamer will have an analog TV or HDTV with just 1080i support. Now! About that silly idea about giving the PS3 2 HD outputs. To run the PS3 on 2 HDTV?s is unethical, unless you (A) Have the amount of space required and (B) Have the amount of money required. Your average ?Joe? Gamer just want to play NextGen games on 1 HD(TV) . I see the PS3 being priced at 499.99 US or more and it will not see a US release till next fall, this is a Japanese company they will released it in Japan first around May or June 2006. So much for a Spring release. For all you American?s out there, what are you waiting for go buy an Xbox 360, well... if you can find one. lol, "Joke intended"
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look.. 2 outputs will be for two player gaming or 4 player split screen. so there is less screeen cheating and a larger screen to play with. for those of us who have two hdtvs it will be good. but dont dis it because most people dont. again they are thinking into the future with this and 1080p.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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guys get a x360 it will definantly be system to have in the long run. first off who really cares about 1080 i have an HDTV but last time i checked games were great on 480. for anyone that wants bluray ms is making a bluray external port. ms is also making huge leaps and bounds to make third party canidates on their sides. ff11 is a HUGE step for the japanese war not for the game but for showing that square enix is making games for ms. theyre making talks with blizzard for world of warcraft. ms is breaking the rockstar contract. theyre trying to get msg4. resident evil 5. ms is trying to get dmc4 the list goes on and on. ms has alot of money to literally throw money at developers. if ms can pull off a miracle and go DEEP into sonys japanese territory. that could potentially put ms and sony in a stand off and of course ms can hold out longer. also if world of warcraft comes out for the x360 its done for sony all warcraft fans will buy an x360 that would literally be a HUGE killer for sony
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Its hard to disscus on the PS3's situation but with this long wait and hold of the system I believe it will be later on during the year release with a $500+ price tag. The situation of loads of usb ports, and card ports like sd, memory stick, with also the two HDTV output and built in wirless internet will be unessasery components that should be removed to reduce the price of the PS3 and released as addons for those who would like those features.

Sony have to think along the line of the masses and not the line of the very privaliged few or anubis.

Microsoft are doing some very nasty tactics to sony taking all these high profile developers. I must agree with dr.cool on this. If people research into what games the 360 has in development with the developers working for them then you will see that Sony will have a very compeitive fight in this generation.

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just because you cant use them doesnt mean others wont. i want wifi and the card adapters. i think they could cut out a few usb's and save the royaltis to ibm tho. its an advanced system. the 360 is like todays consoles but faster and better grafically. there is almost no difference otherwise. you would figure with a new media type coming along ms would wait, but no they wanna scam ur hearts out.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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and with this new addon bluray idea ms proposed...

if sony denied them that, it would put a great damper on the 360, and covernt people to the other side. sony is thinking ahead with 2 hdmi, 1080p, cards and ports of all kinds, wifi, linux, and bluray. it may cost more but will really be worth it. in about 2 or 3 yeahs 1080p will become more commonly used,k and subsequently reduce in price. the 360.. does it have hdmi? im not sure. but it does not have much backward compatability, does not have 1080p, it does not have a next gen media..the list can go on. but i believe that ms did not install a HD-DVD drive because of the support for the bluray side. if they installed it, than it would be worthless if the bluray team one. tho there is a problem with sony, if for some reason HD-DVD one, then the ps3 drive would be pretty useless.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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Most of you guys missed my main point, The PRICE. It will not sell like hot cakes at a $499.99 plus price. History has proven in the gaming industry that the systems at the LOWER price and enough 3rd party support will sell more. Versus a system with a HIGHER price tag and enough 3rd. party support. Someone said that in 2-3 years HDTV's with 1080p will be affordable. lol, Which is more then likely true. But? take to consideration that you would be investing in a console system that will be obsolete before you can afford an HDTV with 1080p. By that time the consoles of generation after next will have 1080p as a standard. Because it will become more affordable to mass produce and more then likely have HD-DVD as a media of choice.
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a system is not obsolete untill the next gen comes out. even if its more, it will be well worth it. have you seen everything included? plus, who is to say it will be too much more anyway? besides, my prediction is Blu-ray will win. if anyone wants to fight about it go ahead, but with larger size and more support from more studios and companies, it should be the victor. and to those of u who say bluray will cost more, HD-DVD costs almost as much and in the long run bluray would cost less than HD-DVD in the long run. bluray uses one injection molder insted of 2 like dvd. bluray roms will cost barely more than a dvd in two years.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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Look? 2 outputs will be for two player gaming or 4 player split screen. So there is less screen cheating and a larger screen to play with. For those of us who have two HDTV?s it will be good. But don?t disrespect it because most people don?t. Again they are thinking into the future with this and 1080p.
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This one is very funny, Ok where should I start... 2 HD outputs make no sense. Especially for the reasons you say, I have done LAN parties with the original Xbox on more then 1 TV or HDTV for that matter. It's a bidirectional data feature that has been around for decades on the PC. It's called direct link or "System link" as they call it on the Xbox. If I am not mistaken the PS3 should have the system link feature as well. So... 2 HD outputs don't need it, especially for the reasons you say.
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well what if you dont have two systems? or you have one and ur friend comes over but he doesnt own one? it saves 450 dollars from getting another system. why are you dissing something like this? im sure there is more a point to it or they would not have done it. why do you dis something that is not normal or has not really been seen? are you to used to primitive features like those enclused on the 360? where everything u get for the 360 is not included and costs 40-200 dollars to get the addon.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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no they wonnt anubius.
injection moulding is a MASS PRODUCING industrial processes, they use it FKING LOADS, therefore it is extremely (and i mean *extremely*) cheap to do, and is only 1 part of the whole process.
2 instead of 1 doesnt make it any more expensive.
that is also something i learnt in product design, hehehe.

and anubis, if one wins, it doesnt mean that the other will become obsolete.

and i have a HD-TV and i play the 360 on it.
and just so you know, there is virtually no seeable difference between interlaced and progressive scan pictures.
i can say that BECAUSE i have got one of the frigging things, and ive tried and tested all modes.
Progressive is like only 5% better than interlaced, and i think 5% is generous as i cant see ANY difference whatsoever, and i have 20/20 vision so no lectures about that.
so all this oo P is better thanm I by a LOT, well it may be better (JUST, very very very closely) but who gives a fk if you can't see any difference, i cant.

Blu-ray has got more supporters, but HD-DVD has got some pretty seriously powerful supporters also.
microsoft being one, even if you dont like them (i dont care about them 2 much) you cannot deny the power and things they have are staggering, very large.
they also have Paramount Pictures, Universal Studios and Warner Bros, 3 very large film studios, sure to give HD-DVD a lot of help.
and NEC and sanyo are also good
Intel is a big one, one of the 2 major processor companies, they are sure to have some control too.
and as we know toshiba are the main producers of HD-DVD.

Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......

Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.

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if you noticed, microsoft is unsure about HD-DVD now. they have offered the bluray external play if HD-DVD doesnt do so hot. if they were a really strong supporter they would have included HD-DVD first, or if not never thought of using bluray. if they use bluray, that is a sign of submission to sony

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

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