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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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5. October 2006 @ 17:06 |
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@docTY...that verb was awfull but i did rerip it and was able to get another burn from that rip.it QC'd out at 93....just playing with it to see what i can do.....only thing thats been in it so far is 2 sony 16-r'mij 1 8x+r mij and 1 16x+r verb...only 4 burns so far on iti got 1 score of 93 and 3 @95...
do i remember correct you saying something along the lines that -r's tend to get lower scores than +r's???
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5. October 2006 @ 17:21 |
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@ gus738,
It looks like to me that the total process is only taking 19 minutes, therefore coding about 10 minutes and writing about 9 minutes. That seems pretty good to me. I would guess that your media is 8x and your writer is writing at about 8x. I am trying to learn from the gurus here so my questions may be a little late. Are you getting bad burns, bad scans, or just worried about burn speed? If I am correct an 8x burn should take about 7-9 minutes depending on the size of the iso file. Just curious and trying to learn, like I said. :)
@cincyrob,
I am aware that the "Jedi Master" is applying the force but are you using the new Lite-on or the HP to burn. I know there are some bad batches of discs but haven't you had problems with the HP in the past? Not saying you should trash the drive but are discs the same batch of Verb's interupting the time space continuum from a few weeks ago?
@kivory666 (the Jedi Master),
Just trying to learn here. I didn't see the answers to my questions in the previous posts so asking them now. :) I have been getting better burns and scans the last few weeks and I am attributing some of it to using DVD-RB Pro. I downloaded the FREE version and was so impressed that I wanted to be able to edit the content of my backups for more saved space so "bought" the Pro version. I just wish my machine would crank them out in an hour (4 hrs for me) like yours. You, aabbccdd, and IHoe have the B@MB when it comes to computers. I am getting scans in the mid-high nineties consistantly now. I use TY's (of course), Verb's (because of Mort81 and Creaky.....lol), and Ritek's because I want decent quality discs to give to my parents and "friends". I will post some scans later. Man I want to thank you and the other gurus again for all the great advice, help, and patience you deliver on a consistant basis.
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5. October 2006 @ 17:58 |
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@greensman
i just got my lite-on yesterday.only 4 burns on it so far and they have been reburns(copy a copy). as for the verbs i have had a bad batch i thinksome would work out great and other look like that scan up there.... the HP drive since i did this last firmware update has preformed better, plus i have been useing Nero recode2 makeing the extra pass for quality and the last 4 movies i did that i have scaned are around 93-95 which is alot better than the 2 disc i sent docTY to scan for me... but that hp drive is going in my old puter for me to play with got the litey in my main puter now.....im all out of verb now. am kinda scared to get more. dont want another bad batch...lol
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5. October 2006 @ 18:41 |
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@cincyrob,
I thought you were using CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD. I tried the trial versions but I wasn't very impressed over DVDShrink or Nero Recode2. I like the Nero program now with the better (newer) computer, faster and better with the upgraded CPU as long as the compression ratio is not to high. Did the Doc recommend Nero Recode2 as the preferred transcoder? Again learning from the "Jedi Master".......lol. Sorry about the off topic post Doc, I will get on topic in the next one.
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5. October 2006 @ 19:08 |
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@greensman.
i was useing AnyDVD and clonedvd2. still do but have been playing with Nero recode2...still use AnyDVD in the background with it... best thing i have bought so far cant beat AnyDVD....i have heard alot of people here talk about recode2. thought i would try it out. i really like it.dont get me wrong i love clonedvd2 its great.nice and fast but fast isnt allways the best.... hold on sounds like some jedi speaking there...lol
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5. October 2006 @ 19:10 |
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riptit4me is good also if ya have a scratched disc or a older disc to copy or rip
funny 8 months ago i was scracthing my head at everyone talking like this, thought i would never burn a movie...lol
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5. October 2006 @ 20:29 |
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@greensman
i'm sorry if i had previously missed a question of yours earlier, i went back a few pages and i saw a post that i interpreted as a "comment" rather than a question? i dunno, sometimes i skim through stuff so quickly that it's very easy for me to miss a question or 2 or 3 :)
as to your "question" now...dvd-rb pro + cce/procoder are simply unmatched when you talk about bringing a DVD9 down to fit a single layer DVD5 disc. the difference between dvd-shrink/nero recode/clonedvd2 is that their engine utilizes a TRANSCODER to rebuild the dvd you are shrinking, while CCE or Procoder or any of the other ENCODERs that can be used w/ dvdrb are as stated, ENCODERs :) i would recommend no other combination other than dvd-rb + your choice of encoder when TIME IS NO ISSUE for the user, this combo will produce THE BEST quality of a movie backup, as i'm assuming you have seen for yourself (especially when high compression is used) :)
the other programs such as Nero recode, clonedvd2, dvd-shrink, etc. are all very good programs for what they can accomplish in a shorter/quicker duration of time, but if you are picky about quality like some members here are, go with dvd-rb pro + cce/other true encoders to do the job right! :)
as to having a computer powerful enough to cut the prepare/encode/rebuilding times down noticeably, i can tell you first hand from experience that even my AMD system can't complete the process in under an hour (OC'ed @2.75ghz 4400+ x2 cpu), it's only with my Conroe build that i am done in approx. 45 min. :) and even with the Conroe, you would have to get to AT LEAST 3.3ghz for the "under an hour" time to be even possible~ a stock Conroe will NOT accomplish this, that's where the whole "overclocking" aspect comes into play~ :)
i estimate aabbccdd + Ihoe's dvd-rb+cce times to be between 1.5hours-2.5 hours, depending on the movie/number of passes/compression; while their systems ARE in fact "high-end," (no disputing that)without overclocking i can assure you that their dvd-rb time will NOT be under an hour...i am in NO WAY downplaying their great/fast systems, i'm simply stating FACTS...running stock there is no cpu out in the market at this moment that can accomplish such a feat (with the ONLY possible exception MAYBE being the stock X6800 top end Conroe by Intel, and even that is a MAYBE).
as to you getting good quality scores in the mid 90s, that's great and i hope this trend continues for you...your choice of an excellent program(s) + good quality media has given you backups that you can be proud of! when you refer to "quality" though, do you mean that when viewed on your tv playing on your standalone dvd player the "quality" seems to be "better" when using dvd-rb? that SHOULD be the case, but "quality" scores based on Nero cd-dvd speed do not necessarily indicate that the QUALITY of the picture will be there when viewed on your "big-screen" or HDTV (depending on the compression used and which program you used to compile said movie) :) i don't know if that makes sense...
here is an example that might clarify a bit...i've had a backup of mine that i tested using nero's cd-dvd speed on my Benq that scored a seemingly "very good" 97 score, so, i thought nothing of it until my wife decided to watch that backup (i store all my original purchased dvds in a separate room, all my backups are in either binders stored vertically or in jewel cases) well, to make a long story short, the actual backup had short bursts of pixellation in random parts of the movie, however short and "not noticeable" they were to the untrained eye, i saw them on my HDTV plasma...it bothered me enough that i took the disc out of the dvd player to check the bottom to see if there were any scratches or dust that might have been causing this, it was completely clean and pristine. i put that particular disc in my living room dvd player (high end Denon unit that is VERY VERY picky about media it chooses to play or not play) as the final test...right at the beginning, i could hear the disc spinning up inside the dvd player, but it took a lil longer than "usual" to start...from that point, about 10 min. into it, i noticed the pixellation again even on my much smaller HDTV widescreen in the living room and i got fed up and smashed the disc and went to burn a new one...using another disc from the SAME spindle of TYs i had used to burn the now destroyed copy, went through the process of creating another backup...upon finishing, scanned it immediately for a quality score of 95 (2pts lower than previous one)...put that bad boi back in the dvd players and NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER...ended up watching the entire movie w/ my wife and even i was satisfied with the video quality...
so, the lesson learned here should be: don't COMPLETELY rely on the quality scores from nero/dvdinfopro/etc. to determine whether or not you have yourself a good backup, a quick scanning on your home dvd player will show you any issues if there are any upon playback, the software based tests are just a reaffirmation of what you know to be true~ :)
i admit i've had my fair share of backups that were attrocious when scanning (quality scores of 70 and BELOW), thinking it was a fluke w/ my Benq drive that day, i scanned it on 4 other drives (Liteons, NEC, other model Benq and even my totally unreliable in "scanning"-drive, the Pioneer) every one of them reported between 58-79 scores, so there was nothing wrong w/ my initial Benq scan, it WAS accurate...usually, i would toss the disc out without even thinking about it if i got scores that low, but just for kicks, i decided to try playing it on the home dvd player...lo and behold, it played back FLAWLESSLY, dare i say even "better" than my other backups with much higher scores...seeing how far i could push my luck, i tried to re-rip ON THE FLY my seemingly perfect, yet low scoring backup...re-ripped with no issues, quite fast actually as my Pioneer was reading/ripping it @16x :)
anyways, my point is that the quality tests CAN in certain instances be somewhat misleading, there really is no 100% accurate way that the normal AVG. person like you or me could viably use to determine the discs' quality. treat it as a guideline and use your own eyes when viewing on your tv as the final test for reassurance/confidence :)
if you see issues, ie. freezing/skipping/artifacts/pixellation/stopping when viewing, what does that tell you about the 97 score you just got from nero/dvdinfopro? kinda makes ya think huh? LOL
@cincyrob
GENERALLY speaking, i've always gotten higher scores w/ my DVD+R media compared to that of my DVD-R, however, it's a GENERAL statement from MY OWN experiences...if you want to examine OVERALL/CUMULATIVE total of how many 99s scores i've gotten, i have MORE using 4x DVD-R TYG01s by Taiyo Yudens compared to my current favorite 8x DVD+R YUDEN000T02s and even my beloved MCC003 Verbs~ :) when they're good, they're GOOD!
have a good one all
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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5. October 2006 @ 23:52 |
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good grief i can't possibly beat that reply :)
suffice it to say that i myself don't put too much emphasis on quality scans; they're all nice and pretty and everything, but i take them purely as eye candy; as for proving discs are good/bad, always for me it's CRC scans/re-copyability/playback on standalone player - in that order (however of course the 1st time i usually experience a problem is in playback, but if that happens i start at CRC scan then re-copyability etc so the same order of checking applies)
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6. October 2006 @ 00:18 |
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creaky , keep in mind "The Doctor" types 90 plus words a min. so it doesn't even take him that long to type it LMAO!!!!
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6. October 2006 @ 00:21 |
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i'm not too slow, even getting quite good at touch typing; but i'm at work and in no hurry to type anything at all :P
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6. October 2006 @ 00:51 |
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Got some Taiyo Yuden, tried and tested my first burn. The disk came back poor quality. Dont wanna try anymore at risk of wasting discs. On the label of the taiyo yuden discs it talks about firmware must be at new recording standard. Could this be my problem? I havent updated my fireware at all before.
my recorder is a liteon SOHW-832S
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6. October 2006 @ 01:00 |
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YES update your firmware to the latest heres a link
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_search.php
also what programs are you using to transcode/burn with?
remember to burn at 8x max. (4x starting out would be best) on a clean machine without other programs running while your transcoding/burning
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6. October 2006 @ 01:02 |
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Use Nero to burn. Using 8x DVD+R taiyo yuden burnt @ 6x
and my model is actually SOHW-1673S
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6. October 2006 @ 01:06 |
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a-ha, and let's have a Nero log also...
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6. October 2006 @ 01:21 |
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updated firmware from JS0C to JS0D, will see what happens
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6. October 2006 @ 01:37 |
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Windows XP 5.1
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ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 19:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S>Version: JS0D - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B>Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B D: CDRom0
PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 E: CDRom1
Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S F: CDRom5
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1047344kB)
Free physical memory: 522MB (535172kB)
Memory in use : 48 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
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UDF/ISO compilation
10:22:45 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started
10:22:45 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
10:22:45 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
UDF document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
10:22:45 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted
10:22:45 #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
10:22:45 #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S running
10:22:45 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
10:22:45 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
10:22:45 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
10:22:46 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2266735 (503:43.10, 4427MB)
10:22:46 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
10:22:46 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
10:22:46 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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10:22:46 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2266736 (2266736) = #2266736/503:43.11
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2266736 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S]
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10:22:46 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4642275328, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2266736 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
10:22:47 #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started
10:22:47 #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.
10:22:47 #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed
10:22:47 #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
10:22:47 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
10:22:47 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
10:22:47 #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5876
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S
Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
10:22:47 #23 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5306
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
10:22:47 #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
10:32:41 #25 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2266736 (229670h), lenght 0 blocks
10:32:42 #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
10:33:10 #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5876
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S
Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD+R
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
10:33:10 #28 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 17/08/2001 14:07:32
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 28/10/2003 11:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 07:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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6. October 2006 @ 01:39 |
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@stedaman - very good choice of Nero version - 6.6.0.18. anyways, i see a couple problems already; give me a couple minutes to decode the logfile..
..done...
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Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
- an excellent choice of version there; i'm still using 6.6.0.18 and am not budging unless in the future i need to buy new burners that aren't supported in 6.6.0.18
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CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off
- a-ha - DMA needs to be ON for those drives, fix via this - http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/FAQ.htm
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Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
- those TY discs are supported fine in the burners' firmware as they're showing up in this section
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File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 07:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
- ouch, the ATAPI drivers aren't loaded correctly; this will be resolved when you follow the DMA fix further up my reply
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logfile dissected...see previous reply
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6. October 2006 @ 02:02 |
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Hehe, I upgraded my Nero before and didnt like it and quickly went back to that one.
The burn before the firware upgrade wasa total failure, whether it was the disc (doubtful) or the firmware I dunno but the 2nd disc came out with a 95 QS. However it still had more errors than Verbatim MC 003's. About 500 PI failures compared to 70.
I think ive got the DMA all on now, thx for the link. Will see what happens
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6. October 2006 @ 03:17 |
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Latest Nero burn log :
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WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 19:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S>Version: JS0D - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B>Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B D: CDRom0
PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 E: CDRom1
Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S F: CDRom3
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1047344kB)
Free physical memory: 517MB (529980kB)
Memory in use : 49 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
6.10.2006
Burn DVD Image
11:48:01 #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
11:48:01 #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S running
11:48:01 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
11:48:01 #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2272389 (504:58.39, 4438MB)
11:48:01 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
11:48:01 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
11:48:01 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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11:48:01 #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2272390 (2272390) = #2272390/504:58.40
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2272390 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S]
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11:48:01 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4653854720, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2272390 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
11:48:02 #10 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
11:48:02 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
11:48:02 #12 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
11:48:02 #13 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5876
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S
Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
11:48:02 #14 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5306
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
11:48:02 #15 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No
11:57:59 #16 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2272390 (22AC86h), lenght 0 blocks
11:57:59 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
11:58:31 #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5876
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S
Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD+R
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
11:58:31 #19 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 17/08/2001 14:07:32
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 28/10/2003 11:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
I followed the directions given in your link creaky, after uninstalling and installing with three reboots 2 drives still remained PIO. Would the two that are still not DMA really cause disc errors/coasters?
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6. October 2006 @ 03:28 |
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CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off
- let's try fixing DMA manually, via the registry (be very careful in the registry) - Quote:
Run REGEDIT. Go to the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
It has subkeys like 0000, 0001, 0002, etc. Normally 0001 is the primary IDE channel, 0002 the secondary, but other numbers can occur under certain circumstances. You have to go through these subkeys and check the DriverDesc value until you find the proper IDE channel.
Delete MasterIdDataChecksum or SlaveIdDataChecksum, depending on whether the device in question is attached as master or slave, but it can't actually hurt to delete both. Reboot. The drive DMA capabilities will be redetected.
Note that many CD and DVD drives only use UDMA-2, because their data rate is much lower than that of a hard disk. This is normal and no reason to worry.
Other drives will be dragged down to the lowest speed so yes, DMA needs sorting. Quote:
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
- hopefully this will reinstall the ATAPI drivers also
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6. October 2006 @ 04:02 |
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i c the Nero master is on a roll here, you are in good hands w/ creaky on the case~ :)
even though i'm not on here as much as before, my replies are still quite lengthy eh? hehehe...juss passing thru, you guys may proceed, don't mind me...there really is never anything i could add after creaky dissects a Nero log~
docTY
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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6. October 2006 @ 04:20 |
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LOL, it's easy :P
Main PC ~ Intel C2Q Q6600 (G0 Stepping)/Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3/2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500/Zalman CNPS9700/Antec 900/Corsair HX 620W
Network ~ DD-WRT ~ 2node WDS-WPA2/AES ~ Buffalo WHR-G54S. 3node WPA2/AES ~ WRT54GS v6 (inc. WEP BSSID), WRT54G v2, WRT54G2 v1. *** Forum Rules ***
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6. October 2006 @ 04:35 |
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Tried it all still those two remain the same
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6. October 2006 @ 04:36 |
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gettin a big head now are we creaky? j/k LOL :) i never said it was difficult, hahaha, it's just that you are very complete w/ ur Nero dissections, it's like one out of a thousand would i pick up something that you overlooked, but when it does happen, i'm all happy~ :) LOL
cheers my friend, hope all is well with you and yours ova on the other side of the pond~
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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