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6. October 2006 @ 04:52 |
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@stedaman
i often refer DMA issues to this particular page when registry changes are needed, here is a basic picture/screenshot of what needs to be done in the registry; hope this helps you even a little bit~ :)
http://www.blackmaxpc.com/Guides/Enable_DMA.htm
docTY
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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6. October 2006 @ 05:01 |
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6. October 2006 @ 05:02 |
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The for all the help. Think I might as well stick to MCC 003's atm ;p
Just did a burn got:
P.I Errors
Avr : 1.33
Max : 7
Total : 9756
P.I Failures
Avr : 0.01
Max : 2
Total : 136 QS : 95
So thats good :D . Just felt TY would do better, but im too noob :\
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6. October 2006 @ 05:21 |
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:)
if MCC003s are the media that is giving YOU the best results on YOUR setup, by all means, stick w/ the Verbatims~ :) what works "better" for me, might not work for you, individual results will vary~
@blivetNC
the vid. card from newegg that you linked to will work on your older mobo~ it's obviously an AGP chipset and is an older revision that limits it to 4x MAX, according to the Intel spec sheet for your particular mobo, your choice of the Sapphire Radeon is probably going to be the best choice for which your mobo can support~ :) it is def. a step up from your current nvidia geforce2 card~ enjoy your upgrade...
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Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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6. October 2006 @ 15:36 |
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@ stedaman : i had an issue with dma being off and it killed my time hugely , try the free download clonedvd2 ( doesnt need aspi) thast why im thinking to try it out to see quality inprovemnts... use ty if you have any ,did you change manuel the ultra dma transfer mode?
i did and could of not solve it so i called it a quits on that pc and since i had warranty dell send me a new one . xps 700 so this one is on ultra dma 2 and everytin is smooth.....
so try chanigng ultra dma 2 and free 21 day trial of clonedvd2 and ty disc see how everytin comes out ?
so yea guys as i said i got new xps 700 ultra dma transfer modes , do you think this new one has enought power to cut down time backing up dvds? or what about dvd re with CCE or pr0 2 w/e it is .... it has a core duo 2 @ 2.88 or sometig but its over 2.6 thats for sure , 2gb ram 566 mhz fsb i belive is 1066 , also it came with 2 dvd drives one is a sony cdrw ? and other i dont nkow what brand it is , ill post more once i get to know my new pc well lol.
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6. October 2006 @ 15:47 |
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@docTY..
hey i did The Wild for my sons last weekend burnt it to a sony16x-r mij. burnt at 8x no problems with it.the boys have watched it about 5 times or so now with out any problems...just for kicks i did a QC scan on it. it started out great 98%up to about the 3.3 range, close to the edge of the disc.. then it started too get the bright red and yellow colors and the quality dropped to 54% and finished at 46%...could this be from being dirty,finger marks.....according to the scan the disc shouldnt play..lol but they havent had a problem one with it...
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6. October 2006 @ 15:50 |
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@gus738
Get the drive in Ultra DMA mode 4 - most the newer ones support this. A bit faster transfer rate. If mode 2 is the highest you can get and your drive supports 4 sounds like your using an 40 pin cable. Switch to the 80 pin/ATA133 cable.
Sounds like you new pc will be much faster. Just a guess about 80% compression ratio using Recode and burning at 8x 20 mins?
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6. October 2006 @ 16:44 |
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@CincyRob,
you'll soon learn that scans really don't tell the whole story whebn it comes to playback and pixelation during playback, I have some 95 scans that won't play well on the Sony player, but run fine on everything else, some disks will scan at 85% and play fine on all, just depends upon the type of disk and how the drives reads the errors I guess. The real test, do they play well in the DVD player of your choice?
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6. October 2006 @ 16:50 |
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@ binkie7 wow are you serious ultra dma 4????? this would deftianly cut down on time would it not? , i was also thinking maybe since its its a huge power diffrense would this also do faster burns on cce/pro 2 with rebuild or sometin?
anyways well look here these are the drives that on are on my pc , im looking for best so should i buy new ones? if so which ones?
EDIT : SO its a sony and a toshiba? but what versions are they? my question still applies
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im looking for best so should i buy new ones? if so which ones?
arg ... i gues its not a toshiba its a samsung? http://www.samsung.com/Products/OpticalD...=Specifications
is it taht one ?
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6. October 2006 @ 17:08 |
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gus,
Dvd-rb/cce or procoder2 are encoding utilities and has nothing to do with the actual burning of the dvd. They are however the best utilities for compressing dvd files down to fit on a DVD5 (or even DVD9 if you are combining discs or files). They will give you the best video quality especially when the compression is over 80%.
I would think about replacing the TSST (samsung) dvdrw drive especially if you are not happy with the burns. They are not one of the better drives at least imo.
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6. October 2006 @ 17:39 |
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@gus
Mort you beat me to it. There's another member having trouble with these TSST drives-Samsungs. He replaced it and if I remember correctly Dell did it free. Your other drive looks to be a CD-RW drive and DVD-ROM reader combo. If you have any trouble with the TSST drive I would call Dell and complain. My Dell is over 3 yrs now and I have replaced all the optic drives that came with it.
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6. October 2006 @ 18:35 |
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@ DocTY,
Never a need to apologize to me. Sometimes my self thoughts escape onto the paper (screen in this case) and I put what I'm thinking at the time (lol). I was looking for some answers to other people's questions and they weren't black and white enough for me. hehe. You more than answered some of the questions I was having. :P I'm not caught up in the scans of Nero but it is nice to get some scores over 95 now and then. I have had some pixelation with DVD Shrink but the compression ratio was a little high, so I just went with the movie only mode and that worked pretty good. That is when (high ratio probs) I downloaded DVD-Pro and have gone from there. I like Nero Recode2 for the small compression stuff and the only program I can afford for the big compression stuff is DVD-RB Pro. btw thanks for the excellent reply. lol. Like Creaky there is no way to beat that one.
@cincyrob,
Thanks for the info buddy. You have made leaps and bounds in just 8 months. I have been dabbling in the back-up thing for almost 2 years now. Still haven't figured it out yet. lol.
Now for some scans (lol) :
A decent scan (97) but a little disappointed in the amount of errors/failures. There are a few places where I see some pixelation but could this be caused by a dirty original or a bad rip. What do you think DocTY?
Same iso just a different disc (Ritek-R03-02). Same score of 97 and a little to many errors/failures again.
@DocTY or Creaky,
Do you think PI errors/failures could be the fault of my burning engine (I use Nero 6.6.1.4 or IMGBURN 2.0.0.0), bad rip (DVD Decrypter or DVD FabDecrypter), or a suspect encoding job which I doubt highly? I know by now that the 97 means very little for a quality playback disc (movie). Tell me what you need to see and I will see if I can produce it. Thanks in advance for your help.
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6. October 2006 @ 18:42 |
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about the scans...i notice that most scans i see here has the pi errorspo errors and jitter....if you happen to look at my scans i dont have anything were the jitter should be...is there asetting i need to change to get this? or is this something the lite-on doesnt do or isnt compatible with????just curious t obe perfectly honest im not sure what the jitter part totaly means
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6. October 2006 @ 22:46 |
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hmm that samsung seems to performe better then the sony? also WTF this is werid , first times i restared it was set as ultra dma 2 , both of the drives but now i look @ it and the transfer mode is N/A not appliable on all of my drives under ide ... anyone have an ideal why it does this? the reading is somewhat slow but not pio slow lol . should i disable it ? uninstall it ? oh and its asigned to ultra dma 2
should i just put my sony dru530a and my i/o magic?
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6. October 2006 @ 23:12 |
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gus your probably looking at an hour and a half encoding with Dvd-rb/cce or procoder2
good drives/burners to look at are
Plextor(lots of money though)
Lite-On
BenQ
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6. October 2006 @ 23:14 |
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aabbccdd thanks for the info , well price factor is not a issue for me so plextor is the way to go? so with Dvd-rb/cce or procoder2 is it fast or normal for 1 hr n half for original like quality?
what im saying is on my older cheaper xps i was looking 3 + hrs or a days time as where insted of a days time this new 700 woudl take 1 n half hr?
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6. October 2006 @ 23:59 |
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gus thats my guess one hour and a half too two hours
YES Plextor is def. the way to go , go with the premuim series being they are true Plextor. my pick would be the PX-716A but there not being made anymore and are getting hard to find the PX-716SA is the same drive other than its a sata drive
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7. October 2006 @ 01:18 |
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how can i make like a log file so you can see my system info? my ide transfer mode just keep on saying not appliable under ide/ ata/atapi
both primary and secondary ide channels and i already disabled/ enabled uninstalled and restarted but same info ....
when i reinstalled it after restarting it said that the cd rom drive didnt pass that digital sign or microsoft logo or some crap....
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7. October 2006 @ 02:37 |
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@stedaman - you will have never-ending problems if you leave those drives in PIO, so somehow still need to get them DMA'd
@greensman - have a look thru the first few posts in this thread of mine - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/193298
Nice one, your example there is a perfect example of not going by just quality scans alone; very pretty so they really only work as eye candy IF they're taken as gospel and in isolation from proper tests such as CRC scans/re-copyability/playback etc. Will have to re-read your post to see if we can figure out where the root cause of your problem is...
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7. October 2006 @ 02:59 |
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i agree w/ creaky, also check out this scan of a movie i made YEARS ago...what do you make of it? do you think it plays? do you think there is any pixellation? check the media i used, from what you hear from all these people on AD, would you doubt Prodisc's ability to hold up "fairly" well after 2 years? considering many people bash Prodisc too... :)
i'll give an answer to all the questions i posed later, i'd like to hear what people think just based on a SCAN~ :)
Nero CD-DVD speed for those who like these scans:
DvdInfoPro for those who prefer these scans:
happy decipherin' :)
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edit: @greensman
those are both nice scans and on good media too~ (both the TY and the Ritek); however, i think the problems with the slight pixellation you are experiencing is NOT due to burning engine or even your ripping programs, i'm thinking it's along the lines of TOO much compression using a program other than dvd-rb pro~ :) am i correct in assuming it was transcoded w/ dvd-shrink/recode rather than ENCODED w/ dvd-rb pro? if my assumption is correct, that is more than likely the reason for the pixellation (unless you chose to "overburn" the Ritek @faster than 8x or the TYG03 @16x) :) i just need the exact details of the procedure you went with to attempt to figure out where the problem MAY reside~ :)
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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7. October 2006 @ 08:07 |
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anyone have a thought why its now as transfer mode : not appliable? how can i make a log file of my system info?
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7. October 2006 @ 08:23 |
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@gus738
Looks like the TSST drive is a sata drive. So it won't be listed under the ide channels. Look for Serial ATA controller in device manager.
You can do a screens pic in NeroTool>Info Tool of the hardware tab and the configuration tab.
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7. October 2006 @ 10:12 |
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A buddy of mine purchased a Memorex burner about 2 years ago and started having issues with it not burning the new 16x Verbs, it did not even want to burn 16x Memorex, lol. So I recommended they purchase some TY's from supermediastore, which he did. Got 100 of the 8x and they burned fine. So he sent in another order for 200 TY's that were on sale and got 4x, which the burner keeps spitting out as bad media. The drive is no longer supported, has had no fw update for almost 2 yrs. My buddy contacted supermedia who stated they could send back the disks but you got to pay shipping and then 15% restock fee. So I suggested to get a Lite-on burner from Newegg for 32.00 much cheaper to replace the burner then send back the media. Also, why have a burner that will not burn the best media around. Moral of this story, Memorex makes crap media, they also make crap drives too, IMHO :)
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7. October 2006 @ 11:00 |
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nice one Arnie, these days it really is cheap(er) to sometimes just cut your losses and get a new burner; i've done that a few times, sometimes even a after only 1 failed disc, but when a set of discs can cost more than an actual burner, it makes sense to at least try it
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7. October 2006 @ 11:11 |
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Pete,
Depending on the model of the memorex drive, it could be a rebadged lite-on in which case he could crossflash it with some patched lite-on f/w. I've helped several members with their memorex drives by recommending this and they then burned like a new drive. Something to consider or look into.
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