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windtrade
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27. October 2006 @ 16:56 |
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@ihoe - I think I know what is happening. Went back to read exactly how you ended up creating the final burn to TYG03. I believe what is going on is you copied the original material to DVD + media which is booktyped as DVD-ROM. You then used Blindwrite which basically does an ISO copy of that image which contains the book type setting of DVD-ROM.
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27. October 2006 @ 16:59 |
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if that's the case then is it booktyped as a DVD-ROM or not? if that' a way of getting around the booktyping for DVD-R media then is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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27. October 2006 @ 17:12 |
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Maybe it's a counterfeit +R, mascarading as a TYG03!
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27. October 2006 @ 17:15 |
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garmon ....... you're funny..... it's a genuine TYG03! got them at Meritline.com on Wed. along with 100 YUDEN0002s! all genuine Taiyo Yudens.
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27. October 2006 @ 17:16 |
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IHoe,
I'm not getting into this discussion again but as you already know it is physically impossible to truely booktype a DVD-R to dvd-rom. The booktype field on a DVD-R is prewritten as DVD-R and can not be changed. The booktype field on a DVD+R is blank and therefore can be written as dvd-rom. There were some work around utilities that would write on a portion of a DVD-R other than the booktype field making it appear to be dvd-rom but they are not truely booktyped dvd-rom since it was written on the wrong part of the disc.
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27. October 2006 @ 17:17 |
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finally ImageShack is working again!
here ya go Mort!
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27. October 2006 @ 17:20 |
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I know all about the differences of -R media compared to +R media and what booktyping does..... I just ran into this and thought it weird and wanted to share...... that's all.
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27. October 2006 @ 17:25 |
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IHoe,
If it makes you happy ok but it is misleading (physically impossible). Look at windtrades explanation. The work arounds for booktyping DVD-R to dvd-rom aren't proven where the dvd+r's booktyped dvd-rom are.
I'm not criticizing you, just telling you how it is.
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27. October 2006 @ 18:32 |
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@ihoe-
I did more research on the topic of DVD-R media being seen as DVD-ROM. It has happened to me a few times and I never did understand what exactly what was going on. If you Google around you will find there are quite a few threads on DVD-R and booktype of DVD-ROM. The best ones that explain the phenomenon best are here; there are lots more.
In a nutshell, as Mort81 states, on DVD-R media there is a physical tag in the pre-recorded area identifying the disc as DVD-R. This can NEVER be changed. How then can a DVD-R be interpreted as a DVD_ROM?
Basically, when data is written onto the media it is written in sessions and in the "header" block of these sessions, a booktype tag is written, in this case DVD-ROM. Look at the second link. In this way, the utilities can show media type of DVD-R and booktype of DVD-ROM but it is completely dependent on which "physical format information block is being read. It may very well be that if the true physical block shows DVD-R, the utility does not even bother looking up the book type in the session header.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=19489
Just for fun get the latest cd-dvd speed utility (v4.60) and see what it shows.
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27. October 2006 @ 19:14 |
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well i got my reply back from Taiyo Yuden about thesample of printable TY's i requested...
Thank you for contacting us.
Please contact our distributor MICROBOARDS at 800-646-8881. We have white inkjet hub printable DVD+R, but currently no sample is available. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Best regards,
Chika Nakatsuka
CD-R/DVD-R Sales
Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc.
i had to try, they were so nice to send the sample of 8x+r to me...lol
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28. October 2006 @ 04:01 |
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@windtrade............thank you for that first link...... I didn't know this little flummoxing incident with the DVD-R booktyping was seen many times by others. This is the first time I seen it in my own findings with burning DVDs. Mostly I burn my YUDEN0002s so I don't use the -R media .... untill I started experimenting with TYG02s.... which led me to the TYG03s. I knew it was physically impossible to booktype a -R but was amazed that it was fooled to look that way! still very interesting as others say it's debatable whether it makes the disk more compatible. I wouldn't know ..... I don't have the experience with this to make any judgment one way or the other. Thanks again for your info! Learning more and more .........
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28. October 2006 @ 14:44 |
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just did my first burn at 16x on a sony16x-r mij..it plays great.
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28. October 2006 @ 14:55 |
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28. October 2006 @ 17:22 |
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For those who are following the OT printer ink posts, the OA100 ink from private.abacus24-7 arrived and seemed to print fine. The pictures seem a bit washed out but it could be the photos as I did not have time to tweak them up. Did a bit more research and found who is distributing OA100. The cartridges look exactly the G&G ones but they look like Canon ones. How they sell the stuff for a buck and a half is beyond me but I'll buy more from them.
Town Sky, Booth #2346
Phone:650-866-3138 ? Fax:650-866-3136
Email:sales@town-sky.com ? Web:www.town-sky.com
Town Sky Inc. is located in Northern California and has been engaged in the business of printer consumables for the past five years. Town Sky products include compatible inkjet cartridges for Epson and Canon printers, chips for inkjet cartridges, refill kits and ribbons. Town Sky products are marketed under the OA100 brand, which consists of
high-quality products with very competitive prices. Town Sky also sells HP-compatible products and chip resetters.
http://www.itexshow.com/exhibitProfile.asp?ID=531
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28. October 2006 @ 19:20 |
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Just got done watching that disc that was burnt at 16x. perfect disc. didnt notice any problems with it. pretty wild movie. an american haunting
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28. October 2006 @ 19:40 |
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Good scan there cincyrob. See that LiteOn ain't that bad :)
Watched that yesterday - was kinda wild then the end pulled it all together.
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28. October 2006 @ 20:04 |
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@ cincyrob
What was your total process time on that x16 media? I use CloneDVD and the recorded time is way off from a stop watch- anyways was just wondering-
Funny... just watched A.A.H. movie myself-
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28. October 2006 @ 20:18 |
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@ windtrade
I have lots of that 00A100 and it is a little washed out for me also, I just figured it was because I have been using cheap thin paper [thinner the worst it is] and of coarse my printer sucks, but when I get ink from Atlantic ink I believe they are G&G in a green box... Do not know if it still the same, sense I have not ordered from them in some time
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28. October 2006 @ 20:19 |
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i had problems with AAH and clonedvd2. same as with click.clonedvd2 said it couldnt read the disc???? but i used ripit4me and it worked great took about 8 mins to run through dvddecrypter and vtsfix then 13 min with shrink and Nero to burn.
@binkie7 does your liteon have the ability to do the jitter test? mine doesnt
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28. October 2006 @ 20:22 |
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Hmmmm... I had a total time of 14+ and Clone and Click have worked fine for me....Click is faster
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28. October 2006 @ 20:26 |
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i still think i have to much junk going in the background when doing a movie. when i click task manager and it shows like 42 process running. none are useing up the CPU but are takeing from memory..plus i hear the CPU/HD not sure which it is running like a scared dear.
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28. October 2006 @ 20:31 |
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@cincyrob
Check out this link for the new CD-DVD Speed:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/413161
I downloaded it today bit haven't used it - is said now to support it on recent LiteOn drive.
It just an .exe that you will run.
@herrick
What was you time on the 16x? The 16x TY for me burn close to the higher speed I pick like 12x, 16x - the verbs though don't.
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28. October 2006 @ 21:00 |
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LOL
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28. October 2006 @ 21:08 |
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@binkie7
Sorry little one [seen your picture after reading mort81 replys] I should of worded things right, AH, AH, AH, LA school system, or maybe my system was down...anyways I was asking what cincyrobs time was, on those x16 but I have never used x16- the speed I was relating to was x8 @ 4 when I burned A.A.H. sorry for the confussion
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28. October 2006 @ 21:52 |
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No worries herrick
I just assumed you were using 16x media - may have been having a 'blonde' moment :)
Now little one well got me there too - heck my dog is bigger than me:) But he knows who the boss is - ME :)
Have a good night all!
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