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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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24. October 2006 @ 08:36 |
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@herrick
i got my epson at hhgregg. i dont know if yo uhave one near you. but i got it for $149.plus it had a MIR for $50 so it only cost me $99.plus the ink for it seems to last a bit longer than others. plus they cost alot less.. i have heard you can get there ink for 36 cart. $36 at supermediastore i think it was??? not sure on that one..
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24. October 2006 @ 08:39 |
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12 bucks for 50 Verb 8x +R MCC03 seems pretty good to me. Threw them in the basket while ordering some other stuff. Finally getting some verbs to try in my new litey - it'll be interesting to see how they perform in my drive.
www.supermediastore.com/verbatim-shiny-silver-8x-DVD-R-plus-47gb-media-50.html
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24. October 2006 @ 08:45 |
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24. October 2006 @ 08:53 |
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FYI - I've purchased inkjet carts from supermedia for some time now and they work fine in my Canon Pixma. The ones I got from them are made by G&G. I also just ordered a laser toner cart from them, hopefully same quality.
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24. October 2006 @ 11:43 |
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@herrick
i havent used any of those place but have heard abcus is a pretty good place.... the ink cart. i was talking about ar of the RIDISC brand also not epson.. they are alot cheaper and work great.
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what lite-on did ya get?
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24. October 2006 @ 12:07 |
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Rob- same drive as you I think shm-165h6s. I got two of them and they both seem fine, especially now that things have settled down after the ridiculous series of fiascos I had recently - including that bum 1655. My biggest regret from it all was I chucked a tub of bad TY which I should have kept for future testing. Even though the litey is not as fast it seems to have better support from enthusiasts - different firmware, Kprobe and variants, flasher utilities, more extensive testing, cross-flashing, etc. Maybe the Benqs are as well supported, I just did not have as much time with it.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a 1655 now anyway. I'm just speculating but it just feels like it's the "last of the batch, bottom of the barrel" syndrome and I'd not be suprised if the overall quality of these last batches is not up to the earlier standard.
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24. October 2006 @ 12:20 |
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@windtrade
i got the SHW-160P6S. really likeing it now that it has some burns on it...same thing minus the lightscribe.your about the 5th personi heard say that about the newest 1655's
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24. October 2006 @ 14:03 |
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@herrick
Yeah Abacus 24/7 is a great place for cheap ink. Canon Pixma 6 carts are about $1.59 apiece and work as well as original canons. IMHO I call it "the free ink place! Epsons carts are more tho.
EDIT: BEWARE The correct ink store is abacus 24/7 private store
http://www.private.abacus24-7.com/driver...ty&compat=13528
There are two stores same logo different prices. just above is the cheap site.
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24. October 2006 @ 14:33 |
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Pays to shop around - I just looked up ink for canon pixma ip4000 @ abacus and it is more than twice as much as what I pay at supermedia.
@garmoon - looked up ip6000 carts and they are nearly 5 bucks each, same as the ip4000 series carts. are you sure where you got them?
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24. October 2006 @ 14:36 |
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@garmoon
Ya.... thats the cheapest Ive found- but always look'en for antoher! I have a very old and soon to be retired printer so epson ink is still really cheap [Stylus 62C] all right stop laughting! Soon, baby, soon I will have a worthy printer.
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24. October 2006 @ 17:46 |
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@garmoon - you must be a special dude as you get to buy from the "private" store. Look at the retail store, the one not preceeded by private dot.
I am VERY curious what/why there are the two sites - one with obviously much better prices.
Thanks for the tip off anyway.
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25. October 2006 @ 00:21 |
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@ cincyrob i have the epson 340 ( iv had the expson from since the 200 series) and i always buy the non branded ink from supermedia store alonge with TY inkjecat printables and my prints come nicely however i could never achine a high res like picture even when i used genine ink so if you compare a disc (original vs a back up printed ) side by side i couldnt never get right color matching what about you???? oh and i went slow route options so best settnigs are as they can go .
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25. October 2006 @ 04:30 |
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while i do not use my TY printables as much as i used to, i have found the Ridata brand Epson replacement ink to be "just about as good as the original Epson branded" ones from my own experience.
i happened to get mine here from meritline:
http://meritline.stores.yahoo.net/epson-...combo-sale.html
i did a few years ago purchase from abacus almost exclusively, but since then, they've raised their prices across the board significantly and in some circumstances, can not compete w/ the likes of supermediastore, meritline and the other online retailers that sell media (as well as ink) :)
the G&G branded ones are what i received from abacus, and just a FYI, are identical (also manufactured by G&G) under supermediastore's own Epson compatible ink~ :) i'm not sure who actually manufactures the Ridata branded ones, but i can see almost NO difference between the Ridatas, the G&Gs from supermediastore, abacus, and original Epson OEMs. i can't say i know anything about the ink manufacturing process (because i don't), but i can see an inkjet printed discs with my own eyes, no discernable difference to me using the various compatible inks~
my family uses the older models Epson R220 (dad) and my own R300M; but i can guess there is not a whole lot of differences between these older models and the newer R320s and R340s and the high end R800. i'm sure each of the newer specific models brings added speed/features/higher quality output (?) not present in the older models, but you get what you pay for in the higher end units~ :)
i personally "prefer" the silver inkjet printable TYs (the one w/ the holographic look), but the white full hub ones are really nice, quality wise (not speaking of the printed portion, but rather the disc itself), it's of high quality much like the other non-printable lines of Taiyo Yuden are...just with an inkjet printable surface for those who have direct-to-disc inkjet printer capable of it~ :)
i don't know anyone personally that has a thermal printer, so i wouldn't know how good the outcome of the discs would be on the thermal printables, but if someone DOES have the $$ for one and has some experience, i'd be interested to know how those particular TYs turn out w/ a thermal printer~ :)
funny how this thread takes on a whole new life (direction) at a moment's notice~ but as long as we are helping one another, it's all good to me~ :)
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Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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25. October 2006 @ 05:33 |
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I wanted to ask about the apache drivers from my earlier problem with DMA.
Ive managed to turn DMA on all of the drives it seems, but I think the apache part still has problems.
Heres a latest burn report:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 19:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S>Version: JS0D - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B>Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8481B D: CDRom0
PHILIPS DVD+RW-D01 E: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S F: CDRom2
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1047344kB)
Free physical memory: 513MB (526148kB)
Memory in use : 49 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
25.10.2006
Burn DVD Image
13:59:23 #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
13:59:24 #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S running
13:59:24 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
13:59:24 #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2285962 (507:59.37, 4464MB)
13:59:24 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
13:59:24 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC, Media Type ID: 003, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
13:59:24 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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13:59:24 #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2285963 (2285963) = #2285963/507:59.38
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2285963 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S]
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13:59:24 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681652224, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2285963 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
13:59:25 #10 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
13:59:25 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
13:59:25 #12 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC.....
Media type ID: 003
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 ...MCC.....003.8
23 54 37 12 02 42 6E 02 - A8 6B 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Bn..k......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
13:59:25 #13 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5876
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S
Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
13:59:25 #14 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5306
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
13:59:25 #15 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No
14:09:37 #16 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2285963 (22E18Bh), lenght 0 blocks
14:09:37 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
14:10:07 #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5876
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S
Book Type request [LO], rev 3: DVD+R
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0
14:10:07 #19 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8,310 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 17/08/2001 14:07:32
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 28/10/2003 11:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
My other question is about playback. Can dvd players affect the quality of the disc? My discs seem fine to play but some are playing for 30 mins np then start to pause and jump. Is this just due to some bad discs? (25 pack DVD+R Verbatim 8x)or can this be caused by the quality of the player. I feel my discs burn qell with QS 95 but after palyback in my dvd player deteriorate somewhat.
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25. October 2006 @ 05:52 |
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@stedaman - logfile all looks good, apart from the ATAPI drivers - Quote:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
- get that sussed and you seem to have a healthy setup there (only other thing to try after that is a defrag)
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25. October 2006 @ 06:10 |
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@gus...
i have only done 6 of the printable disc and 4 of the 6 i couldnt tell the difference from the original other than not being printed all the way to the hub, the other 2 i choose to do them with a litter tone just to see the difference and to save ink..lol just trying different things with it..
@docTY.
im gonna contact TY again and see if they will send some inkjet printable samples like they did with there other media they sent me... hey ya never know...:)
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25. October 2006 @ 06:30 |
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@ creaky
I think we may be there :p
got rid of alcohol and some apache server stuff to do with psp
latest burn :
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for src)
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25. October 2006 @ 08:50 |
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yay, that's the stuff; i'd go for a defrag; then the next thing is to CRC scan one or more discs that have shown signs of skipping; if there's any errors then that would explain the skipping ie due to corruption; however if no corruption found it could be the standalone dvd player(s) don't like the discs
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25. October 2006 @ 09:05 |
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25. October 2006 @ 10:21 |
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@garmoon, docTY
FYI - WARNING
I did more research after I bought the ink from Abacus. Too late now as they sent me an email saying the order is on its way. Both sites sell the same product and is in a yellow box.
When I did my original searching I thought Abacus sold the same G&G ink carts that Supermediastore sells as the picture they show on their top web pages show the GG ink carts but later when I actually clicked on the actual item I was buying it appears it is NOT GG ink.
Seems like they USED TO sell GG ink but have a new supplier. This makes sense as the prices are so much lower than other vendors. The GG ink has gone up a lot over the past year. I'm totally sold on GG ink as being as good as OEM ink. I hate changing out know quality products - like changing DVD media :-). At least their BBB link shows LOTS of happy campers.
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25. October 2006 @ 11:06 |
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ok i know im not the only one, what does GG stand for?????
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25. October 2006 @ 11:25 |
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When you speak od CRC scan are you refuring to Nero?
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25. October 2006 @ 11:26 |
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You'll love the blue box ink it's Ridisc and I've found it's better than the Abacus and G&G imo.The G&G ink they carry is for the 3800 4200 etc. 4 cartridge printers As far as what G&G stands for don't know but on the box says ink made in USA and EMC iso9001 Quality inspected. Been printing track lists on non printable media letting it dry 12 to 24 hrs with no problems. Chris
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25. October 2006 @ 11:28 |
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@herrick - yeah, Nero's tool will do the CRC scans
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