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22. February 2007 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
IMHO, i think the 16x media made now is almost as good as the 8x. these manufactures have been doing there homework, and have gotten the 16x media on the top of the game now.seeing that the 8x media is no longer going to be made. its only going to be 16x. so they have to mae it better...i think i burned a whole 50ct cake box of 16x+r verb @12x everyone of them...not one coaster either...

just my Opinion
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22. February 2007 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well that's convenient, I was just about to ask you all if you felt that burning my Verbatim 16x's at 16x was the way to go or not. I'm hoping to hear back from someone that has burned a fair bit at both speeds and has compared the results. Oh, and I'll be using a BenQ 1655 and a LiteOn 1693S for my burning, so anyone with either drive and that sort of experience, I'd be grateful to know what you think.

Thanks!
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22. February 2007 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I had the benq 1655 and I used to burned most of my stuff
at 16x because i didint know any better. However the result is not too bad. Usually scan out to be around 90~95. Heck I even burned some of the TYG03's at 16x. The reason I dont do it as much now days is because the guys here didnt recommend burning at 16x for the quality reasons. Sometimes I just dont care as much, as long as it play okay and didnt skip thats a good burn for me.
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22. February 2007 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, that's just it, even if the margin is small, if 12x is producing better quality burns than 16x, then that's what I want to be doing. I've had it in my head that 12x is currently better at producing high quality scans than 16x, but if they're even now, maybe after a firmware update, etc., then I figure I better find out. :)
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22. February 2007 @ 20:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From my limited experience I've had better luck burning the 16X media at 12X. I've tried TYG03, Verb MCC 004, Verb MCC 03RG20 at 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, and 18X but the best by a hair was 12X on all the above media. In my experience 18X wasn't good at all. Like I said in my experience. :)

HTH........

......gm

delateur,
It depends on your system and what results you personally get. Like I said 12X works for me. It's also not worth the extra minute or so to loose quality imo. :)

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22. February 2007 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@greensman: Ok, that's good enough for me. I've only burned a couple of the 16x, because I'm currently using up the last of my 8x, but I want to be ready once those are gone. As you say, for even a marginal increase in quality, I'll burn at 12x over 16x, even if it costs me a minute or so on the total burn time. It's still an improvement over 8x, so I'm happy. :)
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22. February 2007 @ 22:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cincyrob , 9 times out of 10 tech support is no help . i called Plextor a while back and the guy had no idea what booktyping DVD+R media to DVD-ROM was. so i ended the phone call there and hung up on the guy

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23. February 2007 @ 05:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm a die-hard 8X guy myself. 99% of what I burn is at 8X on 8X rated TY media. I will admit, however, that I recently paired a Pioneer 112 with my Plex 760, and the Pioneer burns on MCC004 media at 18X gave me a 95 quality score!!! I won't be burning at 18X, that's for sure, but I will admit that manufacturer's firmware has finally caught up to 16X media. It was never the media that was questionable (I speak of Verbs and TY here, mainly TY), it was firmware support. I am almost comfortable enough now to choose 16X media and burn it at 12X over 8X media. We'll see what the next few months hold. As long as my 8X TY's are readily available, though, that's what I will stick to. YUDEN000T02 (Taiyo Yuden 8X +R) still holds the crown as the best media on the market IMO...

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23. February 2007 @ 05:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
speaking of the best media ever . just got mine in.

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
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[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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23. February 2007 @ 06:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
speaking of the best media ever . just got mine in.

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
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Yeh but do you have a burner that'll burn 'em????? lmao....

Sorry rob had to needle you just a little bit.....;-)

.....gm
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23. February 2007 @ 06:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@teflonmyk
how are those pioneer 112?? i knew you mentinoned you only recently purchase them but i just want to know if those drives are anygood.
@cincyrob
i noteced on the media type it only saids To2??
is it because its a +R?? I thought most of it coded to be TYGo2
or something like that.
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@cincyrob
i noteced on the media type it only saids To2??
is it because its a +R?? I thought most of it coded to be TYGo2
or something like that.
That's becos they are +R disks, yes. Those are 8x DVD+R Taiyo Yuden; all +R TYs code out as T0x. The -r media is the stuff that codes as TYG0x.

:-)


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23. February 2007 @ 06:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Yujenh
from the first page in this thread

Originally posted by kivory666:

Taiyo Yuden rated speed & format/ media ID coding / inner hub reading

4x DVD-R = TYG01 / GD00xxxx
8x DVD-R = TYG02 / GG00xxxx
16x DVD-R = TYG03 / GH00xxxx

4x DVD+R = YUDEN000T01 / i don't know cuz i don't have any :P
8x DVD+R = YUDEN000T02 / TG00xxxx
16x DVD+R = YUDEN000T03 / TH00xxxx


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
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[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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docTY~
from doc himself...lol
yes its because they are +r's.... and these babies or awsome... just did zoom on one here is the scan of it...



@greensman

heck yea i got a burner to burn them on.. still got the 16x litey... got a awsome scan on it. a few more run through the drive let it learn them a bit. will be even a better scan.....
sent the 18x back and new one should be here monday. outside shot for tomorrow
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I thought the litey wouldn't burn the TYs?


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23. February 2007 @ 08:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I knew that cincyrob was gonna confuse somebody but not YOU garmoon. lol.

His LH-18A1P was not performing up to standards so he sent it back but his SHW-160P6S is doin just fine.....;-)

....gm

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@garmoon

like greensman said the 18x litey i couldnt get to burn TY's unless i used imageburn and imageburn only... i think its a firmware problem with the drive something internal.... sent it back for another new one....

i love these 8x+r white hubprintables...think i will order some silverhub printables.... i know they are TY's but are the -r's as good as the +r's i know alot of people here use the -r. i dont have any epereince with them...other than knowing they are cheaper...lol
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23. February 2007 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@yujenh

The 112 is working out quite nicely. I think I am gonna love it as much as my retired 109.

@ cincy

The -R TY are excellent as well... The only difference that I've noticed is a slightly longer load time than +R booktyped to -ROM on my standalones. As far as the silver inkjet printables, I might give 'em a whirl if they were hub printable. Guess I'll stick to my tried and true TY inkjet hub printables... I've probably burned at least 1500 of the TY -R white inkjet hub printables and around 1000 of the +R white inkjet hub printables...

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@teflonmyk,
which burner did you burned them with?? i assume mostly with
the pioneer 109?? well, most people like the older model of pioneer but i ddint start burning that far back. The oldest pioneer I have is 110 which is pretty good. Hows the burned quality of pioneer 112 compare to the plextor px760 you also have??
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Thought U all might be interested in this:www.dvdguides.org

Open the DVD/CD/VHS Guide for complete information.

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24. February 2007 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@teflonmyk

WOW 2500 burns on printable TY's just goes to show ya whay they are the cream of the crop. i've burnt 4 of these 8x+rhub printable TY's dont get any better than this..lol call me weird/odd crazy whatever but setting here listening to my drive you can tel you got a good burning going on. oh dont act like you all havent done the same thing and listen to your drive burn, knowing by the sound you got a good burn..lol then again it mught just be the Budweisers talking right now..lol

i have a few movies to do for my boys and school for scoundrels for myself. gotta love BilliBob..lol ill post a scan of one of them when done.. dont wanna hog up space with scans here seeing i did start a thread for the scans..lol

@teflonmyk. or anyone else who prints on there disc.
how long do you let your disc dry before playing them after you print on them???
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Rob, I wait at least 24 hours before I put them in a player. George
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24. February 2007 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
heres a scan of the tigger movie.. pretty sweet scan. thank god for TY's.


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I'm thinking of buying this

www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-DVD-R-media-value-line-100pk.html

Is this reasonable good?

How Value Line is compared to Premium Line?

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tcwas,
I have ordered these before and got the 8X TYG02's but beware you could get the 16X TYG03's which are good too. Just saying this because some people have gotten upset because of this. rofl. Sorry inside joke. :)

btw good discs and the price seems good as well. $28.99/100 pack delivered is good in my book. ;-)

....gm

www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-DVD-R-media-value-line-100pk.html
[just copy, paste, and click go.....:)]

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25. February 2007 @ 18:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@tcwas,
if you can wait on it for a little bit you might get a better deal man. you cant pick wrong time to buy some ty's man. I bougth 200 pack of 8x premium line with 2oo free paper sleeve shipped at 57.99.
so my suggestion is if you can wait, wait for them to be onsale man.
By the way, the value line is pretty good. I had some concern before but after the gurus in here supported then I have bought almost 500 of them already.
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