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grazyc
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11. January 2009 @ 14:10 |
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spini937, you provided the following update below but never mentioned what you done to get the laser light/ loading bubble.
'Update that will provide some useful information. So I finally saw the purplish blue light from the laser, and now I am getting the loading bubble to show up. The only thing is that the disk doesn't spin at all. Any new suggestions?'
Any info you can provide may help as I never see the loading bubble but in inserted disk will spin/ ejects etc and I've also tried another laser.
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11. January 2009 @ 14:51 |
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Originally posted by boneyard:
OK, I have this problem , can I get a little help...
I have a laser that will spin the dics off and on for a few minutes, the laser emitts a purplish blue light but it will never catch to read the disc, all the other lasers that i replaced would not light or light with a red light...so my question for the real experts is , can this laser be good and problem related to something else? or does the color not matter, the laser could still be dead..
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xWEISERx
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11. January 2009 @ 16:02 |
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Originally posted by grazyc:
spini937, you provided the following update below but never mentioned what you done to get the laser light/ loading bubble.
'Update that will provide some useful information. So I finally saw the purplish blue light from the laser, and now I am getting the loading bubble to show up. The only thing is that the disk doesn't spin at all. Any new suggestions?'
Any info you can provide may help as I never see the loading bubble but in inserted disk will spin/ ejects etc and I've also tried another laser.
This is where i am at to, the laser has color and moves but my disk will not spin at all. Should i just get KEM-400AAA ?
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spini937
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11. January 2009 @ 19:37 |
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Originally posted by xWEISERx:
Originally posted by grazyc:
spini937, you provided the following update below but never mentioned what you done to get the laser light/ loading bubble.
'Update that will provide some useful information. So I finally saw the purplish blue light from the laser, and now I am getting the loading bubble to show up. The only thing is that the disk doesn't spin at all. Any new suggestions?'
Any info you can provide may help as I never see the loading bubble but in inserted disk will spin/ ejects etc and I've also tried another laser.
This is where i am at to, the laser has color and moves but my disk will not spin at all. Should i just get KEM-400AAA ?
Sorry about that. I actually didn't do anything to get the bubble to come up. It started showing up after turning the PS3 on and inserting a disk later after my first post. To see the laser, I took the metal casing off of the drive and inserted a clear disk divider. They come in new packs of CD's. Since you'll be able to see through the CD, you'll be able to see what color the laser is. The new KEM is where I'm going to start, and then work my way from there if it doesn't work.
"You and your mom are hill billies! This is a house of learned doctors!" - John C. Riley
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spini937
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11. January 2009 @ 19:49 |
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Originally posted by boneyard:
Originally posted by boneyard:
OK, I have this problem , can I get a little help...
I have a laser that will spin the dics off and on for a few minutes, the laser emitts a purplish blue light but it will never catch to read the disc, all the other lasers that i replaced would not light or light with a red light...so my question for the real experts is , can this laser be good and problem related to something else? or does the color not matter, the laser could still be dead..
It doesn't sound like the laser is burnt out. The blu ray laser shouldn't actually be blue, but almost a purplish color. If there is no light, then the laser is burnt out, if you're getting a red light, then you should be able to play DVD's and CD's. Sounds like the laser is fine, but you may have something else wrong. Are you getting the loading bubble to show up when you insert a disk?
"You and your mom are hill billies! This is a house of learned doctors!" - John C. Riley
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11. January 2009 @ 20:01 |
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Originally posted by spini937:
Originally posted by boneyard:
Originally posted by boneyard:
OK, I have this problem , can I get a little help...
I have a laser that will spin the dics off and on for a few minutes, the laser emitts a purplish blue light but it will never catch to read the disc, all the other lasers that i replaced would not light or light with a red light...so my question for the real experts is , can this laser be good and problem related to something else? or does the color not matter, the laser could still be dead..
It doesn't sound like the laser is burnt out. The blu ray laser shouldn't actually be blue, but almost a purplish color. If there is no light, then the laser is burnt out, if you're getting a red light, then you should be able to play DVD's and CD's. Sounds like the laser is fine, but you may have something else wrong. Are you getting the loading bubble to show up when you insert a disk?
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11. January 2009 @ 20:03 |
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I do get the bubble in the corner, the laser light is a purplish color....
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xWEISERx
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11. January 2009 @ 21:03 |
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Originally posted by boneyard:
I do get the bubble in the corner, the laser light is a purplish color....
I have all the same as you the only thing is my disk dont spin at all.
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duckwize
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11. January 2009 @ 23:46 |
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Originally posted by kjb034:
Hi guys. First of all, this is a great thread!
My PS3 froze during a Blu-ray and then stopped reading discs. Hopefully you guys can offer some advice.
- I am no longer in warranty (expired in Sep. 08) and the warranty sticker is gone.
- I am comfortable replacing parts myself as long as it doesn't require soldering (I don't have any soldering experience).
- The system accepts/ejects discs properly.
- The blue light on the console works properly.
- I see the loading "bubble" on the screen after a disc is inserted.
- The laser mechanism does move (tested by moving the laser all the way back and watched it move to the front as I loaded a disc).
- The tray does move up to hold the disc.
- The laser moves vertically 3 times and shines a light (it's not very bright though).
- Discs DO NOT spin.
- The motor is not obstructed, as I can freely spin the spindle with my finger.
- I thought it might be the IC chip because I got an error message about invalid copyright information when I tried to play a demo, but apparently I'm not the only one to get that message after the 1.10 update to Echochrome. It plays the Sonic demo just fine.
My main question is whether the disc spins before or after it verifies there is a disc in there (by shining the laser and waiting for the reflection). If it is supposed to spin before, then the motor might be dead. If it spins after, then the laser might be too weak? Like I said, it does emit a light but it's not especially bright (although I don't know how bright it's supposed to be).
Either way, the KEM-400AAA whatever assembly will probably fix it, but I don't want to be replacing it every 20 hours of use as that would probably be about once a week for me. Originally, it wasn't even a question for me. I was going to save about $90 and replace it myself, but with the absolutely terrible quality they seem to have, the 3-month warranty on a refurb and fast turnaround time from Sony is looking pretty good right now.
What do you guys think?
Hi Guys, I have the same symptoms as the guy above me. The only difference is that my disk does spin with a bluray disk only for a couple seconds. Any other disk it doesnt see it at all.
I read this whole thread, and I guess it wasnt clearly described on when its the laser assembely, chip, or board.
Please let me know what route to take.
I am assuming that I need to replace the laser assembly, but I'd hate to be wrong and out 60 bucks.
Thanks guys!
Kurt
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xWEISERx
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12. January 2009 @ 00:03 |
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Originally posted by duckwize:
Originally posted by kjb034:
Hi guys. First of all, this is a great thread!
My PS3 froze during a Blu-ray and then stopped reading discs. Hopefully you guys can offer some advice.
- I am no longer in warranty (expired in Sep. 08) and the warranty sticker is gone.
- I am comfortable replacing parts myself as long as it doesn't require soldering (I don't have any soldering experience).
- The system accepts/ejects discs properly.
- The blue light on the console works properly.
- I see the loading "bubble" on the screen after a disc is inserted.
- The laser mechanism does move (tested by moving the laser all the way back and watched it move to the front as I loaded a disc).
- The tray does move up to hold the disc.
- The laser moves vertically 3 times and shines a light (it's not very bright though).
- Discs DO NOT spin.
- The motor is not obstructed, as I can freely spin the spindle with my finger.
- I thought it might be the IC chip because I got an error message about invalid copyright information when I tried to play a demo, but apparently I'm not the only one to get that message after the 1.10 update to Echochrome. It plays the Sonic demo just fine.
My main question is whether the disc spins before or after it verifies there is a disc in there (by shining the laser and waiting for the reflection). If it is supposed to spin before, then the motor might be dead. If it spins after, then the laser might be too weak? Like I said, it does emit a light but it's not especially bright (although I don't know how bright it's supposed to be).
Either way, the KEM-400AAA whatever assembly will probably fix it, but I don't want to be replacing it every 20 hours of use as that would probably be about once a week for me. Originally, it wasn't even a question for me. I was going to save about $90 and replace it myself, but with the absolutely terrible quality they seem to have, the 3-month warranty on a refurb and fast turnaround time from Sony is looking pretty good right now.
What do you guys think?
Hi Guys, I have the same symptoms as the guy above me. The only difference is that my disk does spin with a bluray disk only for a couple seconds. Any other disk it doesnt see it at all.
I read this whole thread, and I guess it wasnt clearly described on when its the laser assembely, chip, or board.
Please let me know what route to take.
I am assuming that I need to replace the laser assembly, but I'd hate to be wrong and out 60 bucks.
Thanks guys!
Kurt
I will give the KEM-400AAA a try then. thx
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RichDomi
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12. January 2009 @ 09:42 |
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it could be the motor or it could be the IC chip on the controller board.
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duckwize
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12. January 2009 @ 14:57 |
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Can someone clearly define when it is a laser, a chip, or a board?
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coxwain
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12. January 2009 @ 15:07 |
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I don't think it is that easy to diagnose. It seems most people replace the laser and deck which clears all the laser and motor issues. The board chip replacement seems somewhat rare to be done.
There are some guys in here that repair PS3 and they rarely see the chip needing to be replaced.
I had a drive that the Hub didnt spin.
To check it you would have to use a volt meter to determin if that is the problem. but after that you need to find the part.
Ther are ample lasers and laser and deck assemblies for sale.
The bigger questionto ask is how you can buy the best quality replacement part as it seems some BR can be after market and more faulty.
I have no idea on how to determine the after market suppliers quality as I bought a YLD PS3 and the BR works fine.
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RichDomi
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12. January 2009 @ 23:48 |
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exactly! the problem can be many different part, the laser, the motor, the ic chip the nand chip or maybe something else. Its not like the xbox 360 which are cause by heating issues. with the ps3 there can be many problems, eliminating possible issues like testing your drive in a working ps3 can narrow down your problem, but still which one is it the ic chip the nand chip.
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duckwize
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12. January 2009 @ 23:50 |
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Well doesnt that suck. ok how about this, is it appropriate to say that the laser is the problem 85% of the time?
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MCNE
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13. January 2009 @ 16:28 |
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Hello All,
I have two 40gb units that I ordered lasers for and replaced. The strange thing is that both PS3's stopped reading disks about 5 min after the new lasers were installed. Froze with the audio stuck in a loop so I needed to hard reset.
At first I thought, what are the odds of getting two bad lasers for two different PS3's. Looks like that might be the case. Anyone else have a simliar experience. Funny thing is they both did work fine for about 5 min.
Also the original issue was they units both stopped reading disks. No laser lights that I can tell but the disk reading bubble and the external drive light were active.
Thanks.
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spini937
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14. January 2009 @ 10:23 |
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Well, I ordered a KEM-400AAA yesterday. We'll see what happens when I get it. I'll keep you all posted.
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coxwain
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14. January 2009 @ 15:18 |
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I just spoke with a technician that repairs PS3's and he says he will not warranty the Blueray drive unless the controller chip is replaced. So this got me thinking that maybe I should go and get my controller chip replaced.
I have changed my brd but didnt change the chip. I just swaped it out. This seems to be the big problem people are having with their brd failing shortly after installing a new drive
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timmy72
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14. January 2009 @ 16:18 |
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My ps3 died about a month ago, and I replaced the laser with KES-400AAA... and it worked for a week. Now when I insert a game I only get the bubble on the screen. When my ps3 first broke I still could play ps2 games but nothing blu-ray. I did take the drive a part today to clean the lens and I notice the laser lighting up red when I put a game in also the disk doesn't spin. I dont know what to do now, I guess I will look into buying a whole drive with board. This sucks.
Any ideas??
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MCNE
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14. January 2009 @ 16:32 |
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I've been communicating with a seller of the KES-400's and he tells me that even his inventory he gets only about 50% are working. I think there is just poor workmanship with these refurbished lasers. I bough two that lasted 5 min but I will try again as soon as I get my money back. Who knows how many venders are actually making these.
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duckwize
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14. January 2009 @ 20:40 |
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so where is the best place to buy a laser assembley? I'd hate to spend the money just to have it break. Who's had the best sucess? Thanks!
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coxwain
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14. January 2009 @ 20:48 |
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i found two places in Toronto that repair YLOD and BR problems
The one guy swears he has sony OEM parts. I don't know how he can do that as there is only one company in canada that deals with this stuff.
But BRD $150 cdn and it is warrantied.
the other guy uses china drives and replaced control chip and is $140 cdn
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duckwize
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17. January 2009 @ 21:49 |
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I chickened out, called sony, I'd hate to pay 60 for a guess, be wrong, have to buy something else, or pay 60 be right, then it breaks a few hours later. Oh well. Thanks for your help guys
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grazyc
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18. January 2009 @ 12:44 |
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Hi, I have another update on my problem and would appreciate any input into finding a solution....my system had its warranty label removed before I got it but I don't believe the disk drive had been stripped (condition of screw heads too good).
PS3 never shows the loading bubble when a disk is inserted(R/H corner of screen)
PS3 will load/ eject and spin disks as normal
PS3 will run downloaded games
When tested with clear disk I see the purple and red laser. I have also tried another laser with no change to result
So what stops my machine from working?
1) Could the drive not be the original one so firmware etc not correct?
2) Could the controller board be faulty?
3) Could a cable be faulty/ broken
4) What does no 'loading bubble' mean when a disk is inserted, this must help to tell me the problem
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21. January 2009 @ 22:37 |
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OK,This disc read error crap is driving me crazy, I have replaced lasers several times and had success. I recently purchased a PS3, the seller thought it had some type of problem with the Hard drive...It would play dvd, cd but when you put a game in, it would give some type of error code, something about problem with load. So i figured i would just format the HD and be up and running , I did that with the same results..error, so i tried to install a different hard drive to correct this...after i formatted the other HD, the darn system will not read disc at all , it does not spin ...the laser is purple ...any thoughts ??
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